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A rant about cocaine

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Abitwobblynow · 21/12/2012 02:43

The subject of coke makes me see red and come over all old testament.

Do people who use this 'harmless, no big deal, I don't use it much' drug have any idea how it is made, and the impact THEIR PERSONAL BEHAVIOUR has on the countries where it comes from (and all the courier countries in between)?

I would like to wave a totalitarian wand and do a mass testing of the population. Then everyone who tests positive be chucked into a military transport plane and flown over to Latin America.

Then, be given wellington boots, a donkey, 4 huge sacks of coca leaves, a tarpaulin, a drum of diesel and a spade, and made to walk their spoiled selfish western arses up the slopes of the Andes to find a mountain stream.

Then, after climbing steadily uphill for a long time, to dig a swimming pool-shaped hole and line it with tarpauline. Then damn the stream. Then, pour in all the coca leaves and start treading, treading, treading with their already blistered soft feet.

then, pour in the diesel and tread some more. Feet will be raw by now. They will now be into several days of hell. Then, carefully undamn the stream and pour all that polluted shit water down the mountainside to contaminate all the environment below it, and harvest the tiny little bit of concentrate that has been panned into a carefully built corner, slightly lower than the others.

Then, to sell what they made to some murderous psychopath, for $200. Days of work and all that destruction, for $200. And not to worry about the 10000s of % profit mark up, because there is nothing they can do anyway.

Then, drag their exhausted fat asses down the mountainside, and go into the mortuaries of the towns. I think they should be given the task of sewing the heads of all the people who have been decapitated back on. And go on mortuary duty and collect the decomposed bodies and pick out with tweezers all the blow fly maggots, so the relatives can have some sort of body to work with in the funeral.

Then, go and talk to all the widows, the children who have lost their fathers, the widows of the journalists and government workers who were brave enough to stand up to the cartels who were gunned down and decapitated. They can reminisce whose head they sewed on!

Then, come back and tell the rest of us how snorting cocaine is 'no big deal' Angry.

And these are people who preach organic, meusli and Greenpeace shoving shit up their noses! Angry Angry Angry

You nasty, hateful, destructive HYPOCRITES! Look at yourselves and who you are hurting!

Cut and paste to anyone you know who is a 'casual user'

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AmberLeaf · 21/12/2012 15:40

Don't you know that teenagers roll their eyes and ignore older adults when they start talking in hysterical and exaggerated terms? That when they hear outdated terms such as 'drug pushers' as opposed to dealers and 'druggies' as opposed to 'drug users' they feel entirely alienated from those adults and therefore are more inclined to think these warnings and terms are irrelevant to them because said adults don't have a clue what they're talking about

Agree 100%

'Just say no' was the biggest load of tosh ever.

Only addressing the wrongs of drugs when education young people about them is never going to work for all the reasons above.

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showmethetoys · 21/12/2012 16:04

How would legalising drugs be a magical solution if, as has been said on this thread several times, the perfectly legal trades of chocolate, coffee, clothes, electrical goods etc. are riddled with corruption and human suffering? Why would a legal drugs trade be any different?

Also, FWIW, I have never touched illegal drugs and I am pretty sure that this is because they are illegal. Obviously I dont know for certain, but I think that if cocaine was freely and legally available I would have at least tried it, for several reasons. So I disagree with the assertion that legalising certain drugs would not raise usage (although obviously I can only speak for myself on that one).

The current situation with drugs is shit, and I really dont know what the answer is, but I think that this idea that legalising the lot would lead to a totally fair and above board drugs trade, and that people would just get high all together in a totally utopian society is, at best, totally naive.

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YouCanBe · 21/12/2012 16:06

People all over the world, have always wanted to alter their minds with one thing or another.
Maybe that is the only way to actually get in touch with your real self.

Ponders.

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Alisvolatpropiis · 21/12/2012 16:14

I don't think it being illegal makes much difference to usage.

I don't use them because people who do either turn into tedious bores or gurning morons. That would be the same if they were legal.

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neriberi · 21/12/2012 16:27

Soya farming is horrendous

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nkf · 21/12/2012 16:31

Thanks for posting this. I didn't know.

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FiercePanda · 21/12/2012 18:08

The OP is NBU. Also, far from being the most right-on, interesting, cool people around the dining table, everyone I've known who's used or been on coke has been a grade-A navelgazing bore, convinced of their own brilliance. Stupid fuckwits.

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TheBigJessie · 21/12/2012 19:01

I actually completely agree with the OP. I don't take drugs, because I buy fair-trade coffee, fair-trade clothes/second-hand clothes, etc. I'm not perfect, but I try my best.

I favour legalisation. Exploitation happens legally, but it flourishes when the workers are doing so illegally. If cocaine was produced legally, manufacturers could be rated and assessed on working conditions. They certainly can't be right now.

It's possible that more people might start using cocaine if it was legally obtainable, yes. At which point, I have to ask: are the lives of all the furrin people who die now worth sacrificing in order to save some adults from themselves? If so, why not ban alcohol, too?

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TheSecondComing · 21/12/2012 20:21

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shadylane · 21/12/2012 20:24

Completely true second coming, but corruption means it couldn't happen.

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AmberLeaf · 21/12/2012 21:18

Agree totally TheSecondComing.

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TwoSillyHatsWithBellsOn · 21/12/2012 21:59

So the OP suggests randomly killing people and still gets told she is not being unreasonable?! Very strange attitude.

Most recreational drug users don't cause a problem to society, most of them grow out of it of their own accord without being herded onto islands for therapy. There are more problems caused to society by turning experimental teens/twenties into criminals with records, than there are by people who occasionally have a wine, beer or line of coke.

Legalisation would allow people to choose the fair trade cocaine over the unethically produced stuff. Yes, some people will still buy battery eggs, because they're cheaper but, given a choice, more opt for free range. The same would apply to legal cocaine.

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GothAnneGeddes · 21/12/2012 23:34

"Hysterical housewives" "Cardigan wearers".

Is that what cocaine does, makes you spout sexist shite?

It is hugely ironic that you're using stereotypes to complain about drug users being stereotyped.

More seriously, I can see a justification for legalisation, but I'm not happy with they way it's being painted as a panacea.

Relaxing the drinking laws hasn't actually worked at all well in the UK, I'm not convinced legalisation wouldn't bring a whole host of unforeseen issues.

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Abitwobblynow · 22/12/2012 07:48

Most recreational drug users don't cause a problem to society,

Have you read a single word?

Are you really that stupid? Do you really think that YOU and your little recreationals hold no responsibility at all, to other people on this planet?

Really?

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JazzAnnNonMouse · 22/12/2012 08:01

Actually the second coming I do agree with you wrt legalisation. I definitely feel that drugs should be treated the same as pile cream Smile
That way they wouldn't be cut with all kinds of shit and people might become more informed about the consequences.
It could also stop a lot of crime not just in the uk but abroad too.

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TheSecondComing · 22/12/2012 08:02

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exoticfruits · 22/12/2012 08:14

The person who wrote that recreational drug users don't cause a problem to society is clearly only bothered about the privileged west and couldn't care less about the problems it causes to society in places like Columbia - they don't count!

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exoticfruits · 22/12/2012 08:16

Their own children obviously have clean water- they don't need to bother about the children of peasants in Latin America!

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Abitwobblynow · 22/12/2012 08:34

The Second Coming: just step out of your hip, enlightened, different-from-other-humans sophistication for one second.

Why are you advocating the taking of substances that make you 'other' from who you really are, as a good thing? That this disconnect has no impact on your psyche, and on drug users' psyches? Why do you insist on saying, it is no big deal, this false consciousness, that there is no payback - what goes up, must come down? [The last twat who was quite convinced he was above the laws was boom and bust twat Gordon Brown, a seriously deluded human being]. ALL psychotropic substances that interact with neurochemicals to change the state of consciousness, from alcohol to panadol to ketamine are taken for one reason and one reason only - to relieve pain and shame. For one moment, you are free! But it comes back, worse and more empty. The only solution is to work on that pain and shame and own it, to be free of it.

Because, you seem very strangely blind to this, disconnected and compartmentalised. What you and your beliefs, practices do, is hurt other people very, very badly. That they are 8,000 miles away from you does not take away the link you and your destructive sophistry has, with them.

Have you not heard of the adage, 'do no harm'? Why do you think this does not apply to special you?

Don't bother with the sneering and the diversion, any guilt trips or misdirections with me, it won't work. It doesn't work at all. I will continue to call you on what you are as a human being.

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TheSecondComing · 22/12/2012 08:36

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BunFagFreddie · 22/12/2012 08:40

Coked up people also tend to act like completely annoying twats who are full of their own self importance and think they are the bee's knees.

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TheSecondComing · 22/12/2012 08:42

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BunFagFreddie · 22/12/2012 09:07

There's nowt wrong with trying these things SecondComing. It's completely natural to be curious. Tbh I think people are a bit odd if they've never at least tried a puff of weed even if they didn't inhale. Xmas Hmm

There's a world of difference between abuse and recreational use. I'm now too old and boring for these things, but I went to a few raves and clubs in my younger days.

Having an ex who was a cokehead did put me off it. I also agree about the harm that the drugs trade does, but then it's the same for a lot of things we consume. How many of us can say that we are 100% ethical consumers?

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