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to think that Sky are shit?

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 03/11/2012 11:49

So we mined into our new (raf) house this week. They came and installed the box fine but we still have NO PHONE AND NO INTERNET.

Ds(13) is starting to twitch, he can't Skype the friends he has left behind, or play online with them.

I am expecting the police any time, as the au pairs friends must have declared her missing after this long an absence from Facebook.

They think the problem is at the exchange, and can't tell when it will be fixed.

Worst of all, the mobile signal here is shit, so I can't always get on MN Shock Angry

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 12/11/2012 18:36

Draft of complaint (comments welcomed):-

I would like to register a complaint about the service that we have received from Sky since moving into our latest place of abode at the address above.

What has happened so far:-
Although the television installation was timely and successful, we are still not in receipt of phone or broadband services, which were due to be working from Thursday 1st November.
? When we called on the Thursday we were told to wait until midnight.
? When we called on Friday, we were told that it was being referred to an engineer, and should be working in the next day or so
? When we called on Saturday we were told that the SLA was 72 hours, and Saturday is sometimes a working day, and sometimes it isn?t, so there was no possibility of escalating the problem until Tuesday.
? On Tuesday, the engineer traced the problem back to the exchange, but the system he needed to fix the problem was not available. We are told that the next engineer is going out on the Thursday (we are over 72 hours now)
? At various points in the above, we are told that someone will ring us back. I think they might have once.
? On the Thursday (8th) the engineers go out and don?t have time to fix the problem
? On Friday the engineers go out and think that doing a card reset may fix the problem
? On the Saturday we still have no internet, but the case has been closed, as the card has been reset. We demand that this is escalated.
? On Monday (today) we are told that the problem may be with a twisted pair, and an engineer will be out on Wednesday.

We still have no internet and no broadband.
A mobile dongle is not an option as the mobile signal is so bad we often have to go outside just to make a phone call.

What are Sky doing to solve this problem?

Sky do not seem to have an escalation route that actually works. They do not seem to care that we have no internet or phone services, and, in fact, only seemed to take this seriously when I mentioned that we would be cancelling the television package as well if the issue is not sorted out.

The 72 hours SLA seems to restart every time a solution is ATTEMPTED, rather than the problem solved. This is not how SLAs usually work in my experience. In my business, an SLA is to resolution. If I have 10 possible fixes for a problem, I do not get to try them one at a time, restarting the clock each time, giving me 720 hours to work on a problem. If this really is how your contract is written with BT Openreach, can I suggest that you track down the legal person who signed this off and have a stiff word about their stupidity.
I asked that Sky make sure we are not paying for a service that we are not receiving, but apparently that is not how it works. We pay you UNTIL you fix the problem, and you then refund us for the time we did not have the service. So I could be paying for phone and broadband for 9 months, and only get a refund when it is fixed.

We have also been told that the cooling off period for TV does not apply to telephone and broadband, and so we can?t actually cancel the service that we do not have, but are paying for.

Why the internet is so important to us at the moment

Please bear with me while I now tell you why this is such an inconvenience to us.
? We have just moved our children to a new home in a new county. My 13 year old son cannot interact with his old friends via skype or online games.
? My au pair is doing an online MA, she cannot access her course materials or tutorial sessions.
? My husband is in the armed forces and about to be deployed abroad ? you can guess where. The cannot contact us via phone or internet if we do not have working phone or internet services
? In the run up to his deployment, I had hoped to spend some extra time with him, but as we do not have internet access I cannot work at home, but am forced to commute into London
? We need to sort out some legal matters (power of attorney etc) before he is deployed, and this is severely hampered by the lack of internet resources.

I am so frustrated by this current situation that I even started a thread on ?The country's most popular meeting point for parents?, Mumsnet. Several other posters on that site agreed with my assessment of Sky. I was able to advise my bank manager this week to ensure that if he does change to Sky, as he is considering, that he makes sure he gets the phone working before the TV is installed.

What can you do for me?

We have incurred extra cost (mobile calls to your call centre are not cheap, the 13 year old has gone over his data limit for the month on his mobile).
We have suffered a lot of stress. We are faced with the situation that we HAVE TO cancel all Sky services this week, as my husband will be abroad for 3 months and won?t be able to cancel while away, and you will not take cancellation from me, or add my name to the account, or change the name on the account.
I would like to know what can be done to speed up the process of getting this sorted out, and how you plan to compensate us for the expense and stress you are currently putting us through.

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 12/11/2012 18:48

Thanks for the address strawberry :)

The only reason that I can post such a long one is that I am on a BUS that has INTERNET. Seriously, I can get internet on a bus, but not in my home

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Crinkle77 · 12/11/2012 18:53

If you can't survive a few days without the internet then there is something wrong. Granted i can understand the phone in case there is an emergency

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Tiredmumno1 · 12/11/2012 19:02

It's not just a few days though crinkle.

Norma I asked DH, he said it was actually about 4 weeks that we waited Shock although I haven't had any problems since Smile

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 12/11/2012 19:11

It isn't the few days, it is not being able to contact dh or spend extra time with him or him contact us once he is deployed. Next Week.

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 12/11/2012 22:22

Email sent. To Jeremy. Am also going to copy the email to their complaints dept. But couldn't get the page to load over v slow HTC created WiFi hot spot (did I mention the mobile signal is shit - reminds me of dh having to climb a mountain to send Xmas appeal info)

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Brycie · 12/11/2012 23:12

Oh Norma I'm so sorry. Sky are shitola. You can cancel broadband surely - it isn't installed yet. I think they lied to you about that.

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 14/11/2012 08:12

I am not surprised about being lied to.

That seems to be par for the course at the moment.

We have heard a rumour that what the BT engineers do is quite interesting. When this 'twinned pair' piece of equipment is not working, they just take one that they know is working, and swap the two over, cutting someone else off. They no doubt have a 72 hour SLA to then go and fix it for them, and break it for someone else.

No response from Jeremy. An auto response from S ky hite saying that they will send a personalised response within 24 hours (they have until 10.40 today)

The engineers are going out today. We have been told it will be done by midnight.

My lovely au pair has to submit the latest module in her MA today. She is going to attempt to do it via mobile internet, otherwise, I have a distant family memeber (in laws of inlaws iykwim) who lives fairly close, so I am going to contact her and see if we can come over to use their wireless.

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 14/11/2012 15:58

A phone call from the exec team this morning in response to my email. Gordon will be in touch (not yet as.far as I know).

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StrawberrytallCAKE · 14/11/2012 17:36

That's what happened with me Nora after the email the exec team took it over so I knew who I was speaking to. They should assign you one contact who will know your case and be the only person to hopefully look after and resolve it. Hope it works out for you, I know how frustrating it is! Good email too Smile

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 15/11/2012 04:18

Well the midnight deadline has passed.

Still no phone, still no internet.

I have called them...

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 15/11/2012 05:07

Sky are shit

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 15/11/2012 13:46

Well Gordon has called dh his morning. They have replaced the twinned pair, whatever that is, and it has not resolved the problem. They think the equipment they put in May be faulty. Sigh.

They are calling back this afternoon.

Sky are shit.

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hazleweatherfieldgirldetective · 15/11/2012 15:11

You should consider yourself lucky. When we moved we had to wait eight weeks for our phone line and internet from Sky. And when I complained the best offer I could get from them was half price line rental for six poxy months.

They'll issue you with meaningless deadlines, nothing will happen.

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 15/11/2012 17:16

So it would seem Hazel

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 17/11/2012 10:42

Well...

The engineer went out to the exchange yesterday. He tried something and then they reset the card last night (the same thing that didn't fix it last time) and guess what, we still have no phone or internet.

The problem is now with Sky engineers, who need to replace a piece of equipment, and Gordon admits that this could take 2 weeks, or more to get done.

So we have signed up with BT. They can't connect us until 4th December, because there is an existing customer at this address (us, with Sky, with a non working number as far as we can tell), so 'according to the OFCom rules it has to take 11 working days'.

But they do say that is a definite date.

The race is on.

Will Sky fix it before BT connect us?

One good thing is a colleague has lent me a mobile dongle on a different network to us, and it seems to be working, albeit slowly. So we will be buying a mobile dongle today.

DH leaves on Monday and won't be able to call us for his free 30 minutes per week.

Sky are shit

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FuckityDuck · 17/11/2012 20:59

Well done on your letter, hope some ass is seriously being kicked Smile

To the poster asking about living without Internet / phone etc Her DH is a member of the Armed Forces and is leaving for Afganistan to help fight to protect our country. So yes they should be a priority in any trouble shooting, as I imagine means of communication is vital.

Jesus somes people Confused

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 17/11/2012 22:20

We are not a priority unless we are disabled aparently. I am absolutely in favour of anyone with a disability taking priority over us.

Just not the other people they have fucked over Wink

I got the notification of our bill today, which includes charging us for phone and internet. I have emailed them to say this is fucking madness

Why the hell should they bill me for something they are not providing?

Here is the email I sent:-

Dear Mr van Rooyen,

Account number XXXXXX

Thank you so much for your recent letter confirming what we will be paying in our next bill.

I would just like to inform you that we seem to be paying for services that you have not actually provided for us ? namely Talk and Broadband. I have raised this with your call centre, who say that we have to pay for the services we are not receiving, and you will only refund us for the time we have been without phone or internet when it is fixed.

This is madness.

Why should I pay for a service for, for example, 9 months (this is how long somebody I know waited for their problems to be resolved), and only get our money back then.

I welcome your explanation of this extraordinary situation. Please could you respond, via email.

Regards,

Norma

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NormaStanleyFletcher · 25/11/2012 07:26

UPDATE.

We have a phone line. It suddenly started working on Sunday last week (18th). We still have no broadband. They could not explain why our phone had started working, as they had not done anything. So they eventually sent an engineer out (this weekend) to finish the job they started last week, but did not finish, because they thought it was pointless.

I had a call yesterday, to say, "We cannot provide broadband to your residential address as it is too far from the exchange"

Brilliant.

Technical bloke who rang kept saying that I would have to talk to customer services about why this has not been raised before -so the call from them tomorrow should be fun.

It has taken them over three weeks to work this out?

There are other people on the base who get broadband from Sky.

SKY ARE SHIT

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lemonpuff · 25/11/2012 08:06

This is awful. Not sure if this any help but I cancalled my parents' sky (and reconnected, Virgin were beyond useless and BT lied to me regarding keeping the phone number??!!) Anyway I phoned Sky, from my parents' and mum put me on as an authorised person and I deal with it all now. So you should be able to cancel.

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