to think you shouldn't have to accommodate gay / unmarried couples?

[moogstera1]

Re. the b and b owners who have been fined for refusing to allow a gay couple to share a room.
From what I can gather, they are committed Christians who do not allow hetero or homosexual unmarried couples to share a room.
The gay couple deliberatly chose this B and B as they knew they would be refused a shared room and wanted to make a legal point.
They were offered 2 seperate rooms but refused.
So, despite personally not being at all religious and not caring if someone wants to share their bed with whoever they choose, AIBU to think that in their own home, they can choose to uphold their values ( which seem to be consistent as regards no unmarried couples.)

The right of people to life their life according to their religion is respected in law already somebloke, up to the point where their words or actions stop someone else who is equally entitled to live their life free from discrimination from doing so.

somebloke the couple is at liberty to live according to their religion. No-one is asking them to take part in a gay relationship themselves. There's nothing in the Christian faith which asks people to be inhospitable or to judge others.

(I mean the couple running the B&B)

eBook Maybe not in the New Testament.

That's what Christianity is Freaky, following Christ, who appears in the New Testament. The rest is context.

Freaky It's good to hear that again - the old ones are the best!

"they didn't refuse to let them stay, they refused to let them share a bed. totally different."

No because they didn't ask if they were in a civil partnership and they admitted that they don't check that "married" couples are actually married. And as many many people have said - its no longer their home - its a business which they run at a profit.

If this was really just about Christianity and how strongly they feel about it and not just naked discrimination then why are they open for business on Sundays - surely thats not allowed?

The business is very much positioned as a small hotel on the website - even describing it as "our hotel".

Do they discriminate against Hindu's who worship more than one god (which is also forbidden)?

I think they have picked their prejudice of choice and dressed it up as christianity.

eBook Unfortunately there are always passages that justify what bigoted Christians believe. The joys of text that can be interpreted to suit ones own prejudices.

In a private home, yes, guests should follow your house rules out of common courtesy.
If you open your home up to the public as a business, you legally cannot stipulate what they do/don't do in the privacy of their room as long as it is legal and not offering public decency,

If you have strong opinions on what constitutes sexual morality, running a b&b is probably not the job for you.

And by the way, I'm a christian (albeit one who thinks love is more important than what you do in the bedroom). Please don't believe they nonsense that we're all like this - we're not!

OP, you'll find that the leader of the BNP agrees with you...

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-20000954

Jesus said "Judge not", Freaky. I think that's clear enough. He also made it plain that people had made mistakes when interpreting the "old law". So yes, people do try to justify homophobia etc. but they're incorrect IMO.

please note that as Christians we have a deep regard for marriage(being the union of one man to one woman for life to the exclusion of all others).

So married divorcees aren't allowed either?

Religious ceremonies should be down to the religion - allowing the civil analog of a religious ceremony to happen at the same time is worthwhile and efficient. So having the civil parts of marriage happen within a church ceremony is fine, if the religious parts of the marriage cannot occur between the members (for whatever reason and inter-religion marriage counts as much as same sex or other) then I don't think it's appropriate to enforce something on the religion.

I can certainly forsee it being worthwhile to enforce churches and other religions who charge for a wedding service, to provide that wedding service to all. However they would not need to have any religious activity within it, and would be sensible to just make it a civil ceremony that happens to be held on their premises.

OP, you'll find that the leader of the BNP agrees with you..

I think here we have a variant on the old "Reductio ad Hitlerum" ploy.

eBook Matthew 5:17 'Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.'

Like I said, there's always something that can be used to contradict the nice and loving messages, but I'm not looking to argue theology here.

I don't think the gay couple should have chosen to stay there if they knew in advance the christian ethos of the hotel. Why go out of your way to cause trouble for people. so i do agree with Moogster on that point.

TBH i remember going to a B & B in the 90's with my fiancee. My grandmother had booked it for us with twin beds. It was horrible and cold and I think the guy didn't approve us sharing as we were not married.

almeci As someone previously pointed out, do you also believe Rosa Parks shouldn't have sat at the front of the bus knowing full well Jim Crow laws forbade her from doing so and there were plenty of empty seats in the back?

Since when has a "Christian ethos" meant "discriminates against gay people"?

No, I have no sympathy with the B&B. If you want to operate as a business then expect to Comply with the laws of the land. Your choice. No one is forcing you to use your home as a B&B.

Yes indeed why go out of your way to highlight bigotry and discrimination and help stamp it out. Much better to just avoid people who will discriminate against you

Would you have said the same if it had been a "no blacks" b and b?

Quite frankly I am not sure which marriages within the bible are being touted as being such a great example-polygamy, forced marriageafter rape, adultery-leading to murder, having sex with your widowed daughter-in-law (because you think she is a prostitute!) etc.
I love being married and have been happily and monogomously married for 16 years-but can't see where our modern marriage is even remotely similar to biblical traditional marriage.

trock I know, which is hilarious when Christian bigots claim LGBT marriage will lead to polygamy and people marrying children.

I'm like, 'Oh right, you mean it'll lead to Biblical marriage then?'

I think here we have a variant on the old "Reductio ad Hitlerum" ploy.

I don't think so. I'm not setting up a comparison, or a possibility that someone in the past might have agreed with the OP had they been in this situation; I mentioned a political party whose leader definitely, and in the present day, does hold the same view as the OP.

YABU. Businesses are not allowed to discriminate who they will accept as customers. A B&B is a business, not simply a home.

YAB VERY VERY U

If I were them, I would have taken the two single rooms and then had very loud sex in one of the bedrooms.

They can do what they want in their own home but not if it is run as a buisness.