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To be annoyed that taxi ranks don't let families in first.

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LittleTurtle · 10/09/2012 11:39

More like a rant really, sorry if it was covered before.

When we came back from holiday with the Eurostar, we went to the taxi rank. I had DC3 on the sling on my front (4 months), a backpack on my back and the babybag on the side, while holding the hands of DC1 and 2 (aged 2 and 4). DH had 2 large suitcases, a backpack and bag. I told DH we will go to the front immediately because priority is given to families and seriously with all our baggage you could tell we were not taking the piss.

When we got there, there were the paralympic guides helping people get into the taxis, when she turned to us and asked : 'Oh sorry, who came first'. There were these Carrie Bradshaw-like fashionistas to go in front of us. I told the guide that we just came in, but usually families with babies usually go first. She told me she never heard of that, and that unless we were disabled or something..........
Then one of the fashionistas took a look at all our baggage and said it's fine we can go, at which her friend said : 'Oh no, are you sure?'. Eventually we were let in, but I could not help but say to my husband, one of the fashionistas look great on the outside, but just cold on the inside. What kind of inconsiderate society have we become?

In France, there are signs all over main taxi ranks, that you let the pregnant, disabled, families with babies and tots, etc. go in before. We even naturally get called to the front by the usher as we arrive.
I realised that people in london are less keen, one day we did that, and some guy rushed to the taxi to go in front of us, and the taxi driver turned him away and told him : 'don't you see those people need more help?'.

Even before I was pregnant and had kids, I always left the lift, seats etc. to the mums and elders, so all this behaviour surprises me.

OP posts:
Jins · 10/09/2012 17:53

Not if that 3 minutes meant the difference between me catching my train or having to wait an hour for the next one Magdalena!

OP could easily manage luggage/child juggling seeing as she had her DH with her

threeOrangesocksmorgan · 10/09/2012 17:54

my 3 minuits are as valuable as anyone else's.

ToadsPornFrogsPawn · 10/09/2012 18:00

LiitleTurtle=MarianneM=MagdalenaAlec trying to convince us that we are U and OP is not

perfectstorm · 10/09/2012 18:00

From this OP: she barged in front of the only couple waiting, then when challenged by the person managing the queue tried to insist she should be allowed to do so. Then one of the two people said it was fine, to go ahead (despite at no point being asked by the OP, let alone apologetically) and the other agreed after a little hesitation.

If the OP had been polite enough to ask at the start, then this extremely nice couple of women (or fashionistas look great on the outside, but just cold on the inside as the OP so charmingly describes two people who overlooked her bad manners enough to do her this favour) would have certainly agreed. They agreed despite her behaviour, after all.

Not sure how anyone else in this scenario lacks manners. Again: I use public transport with DS all the time. I don't have a car. I have never encountered anything other than the kindness and generosity the "fashionistas" displayed, either. The difference, perhaps, is that this makes me grateful and appreciative of how very nice most people in the world are.

MagdalenaAlec · 10/09/2012 18:07

I am not trying to convince anyone that they are being unreasonable Toads, quite the contrary actually. My point is that it is a cultural thing and I would not dare trying to jump a queue in Britain because it is just not allowed. That is just it.

When I am on my own and in a rush, I can assure you my 3 minutes are also valuable, but that does not prevent me from letting anyone who might need it go first, if I can possibly wait those 3 minutes (ie they will not make me miss my flight). It is not about equality and a matter of principle, just a nice thing to do sometimes.

ItsAFuckingVase · 10/09/2012 18:12

Wow, you can get fucked if you think you'll ever be pushing infront of me for a taxi!

Seriously though it's ridiculous. What is it about having children that makes your legs not work enough to stand in a queue!

MagdalenaAlec · 10/09/2012 18:12

LiitleTurtle=MarianneM=MagdalenaAlec

Does this mean you believe I am the OP? Hmm

ToadsPornFrogsPawn · 10/09/2012 18:15

Yep. No one else thinks its reasonable to queue jump

WofflingOn · 10/09/2012 18:18

'Seeing them have a scrap over who was more deserving to get on the taxi first. "My children are tireder/hungrier/need more wees than your children" etc.'

It could be a new reality TV show, like a JK promenade performance.
I've never been in a civilised French queue, it's all elbows and glares and being dismissed as a life form because I lack Parisian elegance.

I want to go out with a gong and wait for moments like this, then I can bang it and intone 'Behold the Mother and the Golden Children. Bow before their desires, lowly worms'

MagdalenaAlec · 10/09/2012 18:19

Hahaha.

Take a Biscuit

Ephiny · 10/09/2012 18:24

Nooo, I don't think Magdalena is the OP Marianne totally is though.

It's probably true that there's a cultural difference and a French queue is a different concept from the British one.

perfectstorm · 10/09/2012 18:24

ToadsPornFrogsPawn all the posters have long posting histories, on a diverse range of topics, with no obvious overlap. It seems seriously improbable that they would have been created and that posting history built up just to reinforce this OP, no?

Sorry, but I'm afraid I think you owe all three an apology for that one. I may not agree with the OP - think my disagreement has been really plain - but accusing her and two other long-standing and regular posters of sock-puppetry on the basis that their opinion is a very minority one is not fair.

OutragedAtThePriceOfFreddos · 10/09/2012 18:26

Thank you OP. Yet another reason I can be thankful that I don't live in France.

MadBusLady · 10/09/2012 18:28

I didn't read Magdalena as agreeing with the OP, particularly. She's saying it's nice to let people go in front sometimes, but then we all think that.

Tuttutitlookslikerain · 10/09/2012 18:32

I was at the front of a queue in the newsagents the other morning, when an old woman barged in front of me so hard she knocked one of my sticks out of my hand, and said "I need to go first I am in a hurry!" Shock

I said to her, maybe if you had been polite and asked me nicely, then I might have let you! And you can't be in that much of a hurry because you are only buying a Radio Times!

I was so annoyed, the lady behind the counter told her off as well when she came round to pick my stick up.

And FWIW, when I get taken onto planes or through passport controls, more often not the people who are moaning about me going first are people like the OP who don't see why they should have to queue with their children if I don't have to!

TheCountessOlenska · 10/09/2012 18:35

I have NEVER been ushered to the front at Nice Airport - and I have been on my own heavily pregnant, and on my own with small baby. I love France and the French but I do not believe the OP!!

nellie02 · 10/09/2012 18:49

Yeah. I remember queuing in france for a taxi once. With a broken foot so on crutches and no weight bearing, and with impractical luggage as I had inured myself on holiday. I waited very patiently along with everyone else. There was a family that went straight to the front, but they had a very (obviously) poorly child.

I can't believe people actually think having children entitles then to special treatment for something as routine as a taxi queue. As a child less woman (not through choice) I would spend my life giving way to others more fortunate than me.

For the record, I would absolutely give up my queue space for someone more in need.

curiousgeorgie · 10/09/2012 18:55

This reminds me of being at Madame tussauds last year, queuing for the house of horrors of whatever it's called. At the front of the queue (which was looooong) there was a red rope blocking off the other way in... A lady walked all down the side of the queue, lifted the rope and went through, the member of staff said, "hey! What are you doing?" and she very calmly and matter of factly said to him... "oh, I don't want to queue."

Oddballs.

perfectstorm · 10/09/2012 19:10

A lady walked all down the side of the queue, lifted the rope and went through, the member of staff said, "hey! What are you doing?" and she very calmly and matter of factly said to him... "oh, I don't want to queue."

This makes me Angry. In fact I posted on the bad manners thread with a similar story (only the creep called on it got patronising and sneery).

I was also remembering being in Brussels when DS was 8 months old. We queued for everything - Eurostar, taxis, shops, museums. Everything. As did other parents of small children. Is Belgium very different to France in this? Confused

marcopront · 10/09/2012 19:17

I have seen countries where if you have a small child you can go to the front of the queue in banks and at immigration but never for taxis.

How many points would I have got when very overweight I traveled on my own with a 9 month old baby in a sling, with the pushchair balancing on the trolley with three very large suitcases?
I didn't get to the front of the taxi queue and the taxi driver had a bad back and couldn't lift any suitcases and he got lost. I'd forgotten this experience but this thread brought it back.

DioneTheDiabolist · 10/09/2012 19:17

Turtle not only are you BU, you are rude, ignorant and entitled.

lovebunny · 10/09/2012 19:19

you are so cheeky.

if you're mad enough to go on a holiday with babies, their equipment and no car, you deserve a short wait for a taxi.

MadBusLady · 10/09/2012 19:26

I was once in a long queue in the Food Hall bit of a department store with a very small basket, which is what everyone else had because it was a food hall not a supermarket. A woman came up with about 5/6 items in her hands, looked at the snaking queue (I was about halfway up) and said in dismay to the world in general "Oh, isn't there a special queue?"

Didn't seem to be any particular reasoning behind this, we all had about half a dozen items and were waiting patiently, she just thought she deserved a special queue. We stared at her until she went away.

JamieandOscarSittinginATree · 10/09/2012 19:27

The Bendy Bus has lead to an erosion of queuing etiquette on London Buses (you could get on at any of the 3 doors so queuing was a bit pointless).

I am on a one-woman crusade to reinstate it now they are gone, by means og sharp elbows and sharp looks. I have perfected a dodge-and- weave technique as well.

OP Y have got taxi rank etiquette all wrong and I'd bloody well dig you in the ribs and kick you in the heels if you tried it on with me.

JamieandOscarSittinginATree · 10/09/2012 19:31

BTW - I would, and have let people in front of me, just like you OP, but I would not expect them to take that place without asking or me offering.

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