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AIBU?

Why did you bother having children?

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knowitallstrikesagain · 28/03/2012 13:52

(The other thread title was waaaay too long!)

At one end of the spectrum: Parents who work away from home full time from an early age.

At the other end: Parents who home educate because they do not want to be away from their children.



I cannot count how many times I have heard people say, 'I don't know why she (and it is normally she) bothered having a child if she is going to leave it.

However, what is the definition of leaving it?
If you work away from home but see child at weekends?
If you send child to nursery at 4mo so you can return to work?
If you work part time?
If you work full time?
If you are a single parent who goes out once a week?
If you let your child sleep on their own?
If you send your child to boarding school?
If you send your child to any school?
If you and your partner go away for a week to Bali every year without DCs?
If you and your partner go away to Skegness one weekend a decade without DCs?
Does it matter whether they are left with nursery, childminder, family or friends?
When are they being 'abandoned'?

Since having DC I have been a WOHM, been a SAHM, been away with DP for weekends, sent DC to nursery/school, gone out in the evenings.

AIBU to think that if this is the view, nobody should ever have chilren unless they intend to be with them every second of every day until they are an adult?

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carabos · 28/03/2012 16:31

OP that's a question I often find myself shouting asking. Along with the question that DH and I often ask ourselves now that the DSs are almost out the door, which is "why didn't we have more children"?

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EasyOnTheChips · 28/03/2012 16:34

why did I bother having children?

The vets bills were getting out of hand.

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Angelico · 28/03/2012 16:38

Toys. Have you seen how brilliant kids' toys are now?!

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JosieZ · 28/03/2012 16:46

Good question.

I think it is a basic hormonal urge which hits during 20s.

Everyone else seems to be doing it (ie having babies), your parents did it. You are committed to a future together with your partner. So you want a baby.

It would be nice if it was accepted that it was partly a primal urge. Then babies would be something people were programmed to have rather than something the parents have planned and saved for and will, no matter how much time, effort and money they have given, almost never be seen to have given enough to, they will always have fallen down somewhere.

I'm in my 50s, my mother, in her day, didn't have reliable birth control, so babies weren't quite the 'blessing' they are now. As a result she brought them up with a strict regime and wasn't under the pressure parents are now. Easier than now in some ways.

So I think we need to do a good job at child rearing instead of the unrelenting pressure to give them everything.

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DedalusDigglesPocketWatch · 28/03/2012 16:49

Well, dd was an accident a surprise and was so easy and laid back and entertaining we decided to have another (hysterical laugh) ds is the opposite to his sister, so no more here....
Wrt boarding school, dh went at 7 and I vowed I would never send my kids away, but as they get older (still only preschoolers) I can see some definite advantages to boarding at a very good school, especially if being a day pupil is not an option.

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OriginalJamie · 28/03/2012 17:37

I had them

a) because they amuse me
b) I wanted someone to make me cups of tea
c) I get a chance to play with Lego whenever I want

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ViviPru · 28/03/2012 17:44

I really like this thread. Very good premise and equal measure of funny and interesting replies.

Well done ladies Thanks

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naturalbaby · 28/03/2012 18:27

I just wanted a baby to cuddle Wink
My youngest is 14months now so not quite sure what to do next (I've had more than enough as it is).

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LesAnimaux · 28/03/2012 18:54

Because I wanted someone to turn up at my funeral.

Seriously, thought OP, personally I would ideally like to have been a SAHM untill my youngest started reception, and then fit in work so I was able to collect them from school/be there when they get home until they leave for uni. Unfortunately this hasn't been financially possible, and DD spent 12 hours a week in nursery from the the age of 2 (which with hindsight I regret, but a great work opportunity came up). Selfish? With hindsight yes, but it seemed like a good idea at the time.

When DC1 was born I decided to only ever leave him while he was asleep. Now he's 13 this is very difficult Grin.

It's all about balance. If I had to leave my DC from Monday to Friday to pay the mortgage and feed them I would. If I could financially afford to be a SAHM I would. As it is I work 5 hours a day 5 days a week term time only to provide life's little luxuries while DH earns enough to pay for a basic bills.

Personally I would never have had a maternity nurse (if I could have afforded one!) as I don't see the point in having a baby and handing their care over to someone else. I understand though that some people really struggle with the baby stage and are great with older children. I wouldn't send my DC to a boarding school because I'm a control freak, and want to over see every little last thing they do. Some people chose boarding school for their children because it provides the best education in a beautiful setting with no daily commute, and therefore an nice overall life style. My sister adored boarding from the age of 13. for her it was the best thing my parents could ever do for her.

I did work for someone once, who had a maternity nurse for each of her children and sent her boys to boarding school when they were 8. All of her children were planned, but I sometimes wondered if she just had children because they are "what one does". She was never particularly nice to them from what I saw. Confused

MNetters so often bang on about the rights of women working outside the home, and the benefits to children of day care, but I remember one thread where a single mother was offered a well payed job which would mean a nanny cared for her toddler 5 days a week, and due to the long hours she wouldn't see her child expect at weekends. Posters were Shock and disgusted that a mother would leave her young child for so long, even though it meant providing a much higher standard of living. Confused I concluded mothers should ideally work three days a week from 9-5, but no more or no less.

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catgirl1976 · 28/03/2012 18:54

I get a plasma TV soon I think. Does anyone know how long it takes to come through?

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BlackOutTheSun · 28/03/2012 19:02

the pill failed Grin

but how i wish i had someone to dump her on Smile

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hairytaleofnewyork · 28/03/2012 19:15

People just love to judge mothers.

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DaisyAndConfused · 28/03/2012 19:21

Some great posts on this thread.

I went to boarding school from 10 and I absolutely loved it, it was the making of me. I would give my DD the choice when she was older if she wanted to go.

I had a baby because I wanted to dress it up in cute outfits. When she got to 3 she decided she wanted to choose what to wear herself so now I'm bereft. The only consolation is the train set and the Lego Wink

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exoticfruits · 28/03/2012 19:24

The line is that you have them to give them roots and give them wings. It is the one job aimed to make you redundant! If you have done it well they choose to come back because they enjoy being with you.

It is a gradual process. Being with a baby 24/7 is good, however some people can't manage it and do not have to beat themselves up over it-often they are a better parent. Being with an 8yr old 24/7 is not good.

The one thing about being a mother is that some people will think that you get it wrong, whatever!

Good enough is fine! (who wants to live with the 'perfect mother'?-I would say she would be fairly unbearable!! Grin)

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exoticfruits · 28/03/2012 19:25

I got to do childish things-go down slides-scrunch through leaves etc.

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bigkidsdidit · 28/03/2012 19:26

Serious answer: DH wanted one, he's from a big family and wanted lots of DC. I was 28, bored of going out, wanted to be domestic.

That was the extent of my planning and then I got pregnant first week of trying.

When DS came along I fell wildly and totally in love and we are planning two more. (he's still at the CM 9-4 every day though - I love my job too).

And buying little dungarees and baking little fairy cakes is a lot of fun :)

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BsshBossh · 28/03/2012 19:29

I had a child because DH wanted one then I warmed to the idea of passing on our genes and creating a new kinship line in the family tree Grin. One of the best decisions I ever made. I've been FT WOHM and FT SAHM since her birth and have suffered no guilt in either scenario. Whether she's left in the care of others or in my care matters not to me because she exists in this world and is a new member of the family.

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ceeveebee · 28/03/2012 19:34

A friend of a friend has a 10mo. He and his DP are going on a one month holiday to Aus, Thailand, Hong Kong. They are leaving their son with grandparents and a nanny. Money is not an issue and its not a special occasion or anything. This is what I would call abandonment. (I was actually going to post a thread about this but decidedit was none of my business)
Working away/out of the home is not abandonment, it is usually necessary to pay the bills.

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Snakeonaplane · 28/03/2012 19:39

Have you seen how cut baby clothes are? Nobody told me about the poo and the puke thoughSad and that once you wean them they stop smelling all lovely and baby like.

Meglet Grin

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bytheMoonlight · 28/03/2012 19:45

It's all about quality and not quantity isn't it?

I know a mother who would quite happily go out every Saturday night and not think once about leaving her 9yo son with his Grandmother or Auntie. She will happily leave him for whole weekends to go to festivals, work boxing day so she doesn't have to be around her in laws He is well cared for and I don't judge her for this.

What I do judge her for, is what she does when she is with the child. He is either hooked up to the xbox or laptop in his bedroom. There is little interaction with him. She doesn't really know him and I feel sorry for her.

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StopSwearingNagoo · 28/03/2012 19:45

I felt I owed it to the nation Wink

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CaptainKirk · 28/03/2012 20:17

This thread is really timely for me. I live "up north" but have been approached by a recruiter about a position in London. Relocating my wife and 2yo probably isn't an option so the only other options is keep working a crap low paid job or spend 5 days a week "down south" and be home for the weekends. I'm really not sure if I can do this.

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Rhubarbgarden · 28/03/2012 20:28

I wasn't interested in having babies till I lost my mum. Then I suddenly felt driven to have a daughter to recreate that close mother-daughter bond [issues].

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LesAnimaux · 28/03/2012 20:31

CaptainKirk how much time do you actually see your 2 year old on weekday evenings? I'm sure you're very nice, but if I were your wife I'd be sending you down south.

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JosieZ · 28/03/2012 20:44

Ceevee said A friend of a friend has a 10mo. He and his DP are going on a one month holiday to Aus, Thailand, Hong Kong. They are leaving their son with grandparents and a nanny. Money is not an issue and its not a special occasion or anything. This is what I would call abandonment.

Disagree with this. It depends on grandparents and nanny. Assuming GPs are happy and nanny good it should be fine.

We need to stop berating parents who manage to have a good time (assuming DCs are well cared for). Perhaps GPs and nanny are better 'parents' then real ones.

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