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Jo Frost should be compulsory watching.

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Poshbaggirl · 09/08/2011 07:28

I love this woman. She is to parenting what Jamie is to school dinners. No, shes better than that! So straightforward, everyone should watch and learn.

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nethunsreject · 10/08/2011 20:26

Yabu.

I can't stand her or her methods

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pinklaydee · 10/08/2011 20:29

She's excellent - DH was watching it the other week with me, and he said that it's just common sense. But it's obviously not that easy for everyone - apart from smug gets of course.

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janelikesjam · 10/08/2011 20:36

She has single-handedly introduced the "naughty step" which is completely inappropriate for young children, and totally unnecessary. People use it all the time now and think they are being very modern. Its pathetic but i suppose its just a sign of how we bring up children in this country, still in the Dickensian dark ages.

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Alambil · 10/08/2011 20:37

I just wish she'd phrase things differently... not "don't do this, don't do that..." but rather what the parents DO want their children to do. Makes for a much more positive household than constant criticising the wrong behaviour. IMO.

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lottiejenkins · 10/08/2011 20:40

Hijacks thread..........Hello LewisFan!!!!!!!!!!!! New pics of your mate on my profile!!!

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Hatesponge · 10/08/2011 20:41

I can't bear her or her sloppy way of speaking.

The programmes are massively edited, and lots of her 'techniques' only work in set circumstances.

Frankly I'd rather have a badly behaved child than one I forced to sit on a naughty step.

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Alambil · 10/08/2011 20:49

awww I love the top picture Lottie!

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devientenigma · 10/08/2011 21:18

Have just had a sneaky peek Lottie he looks a very happy chap. If you look at my pic, the smallest girl has adhd and odd, the 3 boys are sld with traits of adhd and asd. The youngest is a proper mixbag referred to as challenging and complex, primarily down syndrome with numerous medical, physical and neurological disorders x

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Oblomov · 10/08/2011 21:38

I find the OP 's view, and others like her, 'frightening', quite frankly.
Jo Frost is o.k. she talks a bit of common sense. But if you didn't already realise her common sense, then maybe you don't have enough 'nonce' to be a parent, in the first place.
Guru , she is not. And to pedestal her like this, is just unjust.
I don't have anything against Jo Frost, I'm more concerned with people like the OP and their VIEW of her.

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Oblomov · 10/08/2011 21:41

I'd also like to see her working with some SN or disabled children. She did work with one ADHD boy and then swanned of into the sunset, saying , see what good work I've done.
But that is just superficial and not a true reflection. And she demeaned herself in that particular episode.

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Poshbaggirl · 10/08/2011 22:04

Geez! Calm down. Maybe i like what she does because its what i already do. I like that shes helped people. Why do some people have a problem with that? She doesnt claim to be expert in every field. No one can dispute shes done good. Shes helped more families have a more sane and happy life than you or i ever will.

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Poshbaggirl · 10/08/2011 22:06

....and shes stuck her neck out and done it on television. Unlike us with all our opinions hiding behind our MN names. Confused

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devientenigma · 10/08/2011 22:09

and I too would like some sort of sane and happy life which is why I would like to see her work with more disabled kids.
However we don't hide behind our nicknames. it's just unfortunate this is the way mn works.

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begonyabampot · 10/08/2011 22:18

I don't mind her and really enjoyed the show in the beginning ... but she probably did it for the money and the lark (noting wrong with that) - she doesn't 'stick her neck out' as we really have no idea what is really going on and what it takes to get the results shown on telly. If it's all going balls up they can just shout cut and start again, edit to their hearts content or even completely walk away from any family where it doesn't go as planned, does she do it all on her own or do they have phsycologists (sp?) in the background helping and giving advice - to think it's as easy or up front as what we see on TV is naive - I could be very wrong of course.

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CheerfulYank · 10/08/2011 22:31

I actually like her quite a bit, and think that there's nothing wrong with a naughty step for children who are 3 and up.

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CafeZero · 10/08/2011 22:52

bampot - I am currently working with one of the families she did walk away from. They claim she stayed for 2 days and then jacked it in! They are complex, but not the most difficult ones I've come across. And there are SN in the family.
However, I do think she has done a lot to raise the profile of parenting, and whilst it might be common sense I think a lot of parents just need a bit more confidence in realising the skills they have got, and she should be applauded for that.

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54321 · 10/08/2011 23:04

pleasekeepcalmandcarryon said it - no follow-up programme revisiting the families after a year or two says it all.

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valiumredhead · 10/08/2011 23:08

I don't like the way the child is forced back and back and back onto the step. I think it's distressing and drags out the punishment too much. Okay, a punishment isn't meant to be fun, but I don't really see what this kind of thing teaches

It teaches the child that you will stick to your word and follow through with a punishment/time out - which is what is usually lacking before Jo arrives on the scene.

There WILL be a follow up programme next week - said so on tonight's programme. So there Wink

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thecaptaincrocfamily · 10/08/2011 23:08

mmm, I do like JF because she uses simple methods. Positive and negative reinforcement is standard procedure when training anything from children, to horses and dogs Smile and it always works ( having tried it on all the above! ). I always find it interesting to hear from parents of dc with ADHD. I have used these techniques in a professional capacity on a labelled child.......turned out that the child wasn't ADHD, just needed firmer boundaries by his mother and had middle child syndrome.

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youarekidding · 11/08/2011 07:57

"54321 Wed 10-Aug-11 23:04:34
pleasekeepcalmandcarryon said it - no follow-up programme revisiting the families after a year or two says it all."

There have been follow up programmes and valiumredhead has says there will be more.

Obviously they can edit these too so now sure of the 'value' but they do do them. Wink

I do like her no nonsense approach. I like the fcat she never blames children or labels them naughty but tells the the behaviour is naughty/ unacceptable.

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joric · 11/08/2011 08:09

Tanya Byron
Born 1967 (age 43?44)
Nationality British
Alma mater University of York and University College London
Occupation Professor of the Public Understanding of Science
Known for Clinical psychology, television and radio
Children 2

Joanne A. Frost
27 June 1970
London, England
Nationality British
Other names Supernanny
Occupation - Nanny, television personality
Years active 1989-present (nanny)
2004-present (TV personality)
Known for Supernanny

One is a psychologist, the other a tv personality.

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noddyholder · 11/08/2011 08:24

She should be if you want to know what not to wear if you are over a size 14. She cannot even string asentence together and isma bit Jeremy Kyle in her approach. She shouts a lot and basically the children behave while she is there as it is something new in the house and as soon as she goes all he'll breaks loose.

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BertieBotts · 11/08/2011 08:25

I agree LewisFan. Much more effective to say "Do" sentences than Don't" ones. It's not that hard to do once you get into practice. It might seem like a small and insignificant change but it's horrible to hear yourself saying "Don't do this, don't do that" all day, reframing the sentence makes for a better general atmosphere and also

Sticking to your word is an important principle, yes, but if you're always using generic punishments like this, it doesn't teach the child not to misbehave, it only teaches them not to do it when you're likely to find out about it. They're learning you disapprove of what they are doing, but they aren't learning why it's wrong, or what to do in that situation instead - they have to figure this out for themselves, and if they get it wrong or they can't do that, they end up on the naughty step again! I just think it's better to help them work out what to do when they are angry, sad, want something, etc. And I think you can go too far with sticking to your word. It's okay to back down once in a while if you realise you were wrong. Obviously I'm not talking about situations where you change your mind just because you can't be bothered to follow through.

I don't think I've ever got on with anyone who described themselves as "no-nonsense", especially in relation to children - the phrase to me implies "simplistic and closed-minded" - then again they probably think of me as far too soft and wishy washy Grin

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joric · 11/08/2011 08:26

I can't stand JF

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BertieBotts · 11/08/2011 08:27

Oops. 1st paragraph: also serves as a reminder to the child what the expected behaviour is. "Don't kick your brother" doesn't necessarily imply that hitting or throwing is also forbidden. "Play gently/nicely" does. Small children can be very literal at times.

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