Am I being unreasonable in regards to 5 yr old dds sleep?

[Foxy800]

DD is being a nightmare with her sleep at the moment. Its been going on for weeks, several times out of bed almost every night. Any way we have been out off bed 6 times in the space of 10 minutes so far tonight so i have given her 3 warnings which she has ignored telling her if she is out of bed again she isnt going to a party tomorrow (calmly but firmly). Dp who was asleep through it all decided to wake up and tell me I wasnt being fair and its not fair on the birthday child and the one I am given a lift too (can still do this and just not leave dd there).

Am I being unfair? I have tried everything else including a sleep fairy. (Last night (friday) was the first time in weeks she didnt get up!!!)

[Foxy800]

About five I think as some of them didnt apply as she only 5.

[Foxy800]

Just want to be able to help her as I dont feel I am being the best mum as Im exhausted at the moment, same goes to work etc. And all the issues are affected her in life too, like at school etc.

[RandomMess]

The bloke we use (have another dd who he has treated for her hearing issues using Johansen) operates from Windsor twice per week.....

Absolutely lovely guy and if he can't help will tell you.

[Foxy800]

Do you have a website or any information for him?

[RandomMess]

I'm looking to find him on the web, but he's so busy I'm not sure he's got around to anything, he's recently been running training course in Greece, practising up in Edinburgh every six weeks def very experienced!

His work email is [email protected]

From memory the sessions are £75 a time but in all honesty well worth it, we saw huge improvement within the first 3 weeks. You are taught the exercises to do with your child (after being assessed) and you go back every 6-8 weeks to check progress and move onto the next exercises. Think we maybe had 5 or 6 sessions, the sleep bit was "cured" in the first couple of months and has never returned. She also learnt to run properly and scooter etc. Dh was a cyninc but rapidly converted!!!

He has done INPP training and other styles of treatment as well so he can co-ordinate all the different approaches and use the one that is best for the individual whereas if you are INPP registered you have to agree to use their methods only

[Foxy800]

Thank you so much, will look into it. Hopefully will get some answers from ot tomorrow as well.

[Foxy800]

Have got to go and get dd from party now so will pop on later. Thanks everyone so far.

[RandomMess]

Have got my backside up off the sofa.

His office mobile is 07779 144779, windsor office landline is 01753 856100 and I think it has answer phone.

I think whatever you find out tomorrow you will get very little treatment on the NHS

They kept telling me my other dds hearing was fine, when he tested it with far more patience and taking 3 times longer (which he did for free) her hearing wasn't normal at all (mixture of oversensitive in some frequencies and virtually hearing impaired in others) so no wonder she had severe speech delay!

[BabyDubsEverywhere]

Cunning plan - Fake a bad bout of flu, let your DP deal with her for a couple of nights and keep your arse firmly in bed, laptop, trashy novels, too ill to move...

It will either esult in her sleeping through (perhaps she is in a pattern of playing you or something? Or, it will at least make him realise what you're going through with her!)

[3littlefrogs]

At 5 she is old enough to tell you why she is getting up. I think you should have conversation about it, not in the night, but during the day, and get to the bottom of what is waking her, is she frightened of something, is there a noise - maybe the plumbing or noise outside?

Ds1 was a nightmare sleeper until I discovered the business premises next door had an alarm system that went off every 2 hours all night long. I couldn't hear it, but it was next to the party wall in his room.

Dd had a really unpleasant spirit in her room - she endured it for over a year before she was old enough and had the words to tell me about it. We got rid of it and the problem was solved.

Dd still sleepwalks, and looks wide awake while doing it, but I can tell straight away. I just take her by the hand and tuck her back into bed. she doesn't remember anything about it.

[differentnameforthis]

Foxy800

That's OK, just thinking what worked with dds. Dd2 we just let her in our bed, easier & more peaceful.

Dd1 grew out of it quickly, after I mentioned the cot thing.

[Foxy800]

Well have had another chat with her since this morning and she is now says she can hear her daddy snoring through the wall, no suggestion from me. So looks like a room change is due, not surer where too though as if she is up against wall connected to next door she can hear their daughter, if she is by the window then she can hear the noise outside and the other wall you would still need to be near the window so need to have a serious thing, maybe the bed in the middle of the room!!Lol

[RandomMess]

I wonder if her hearing is oversensitive - which is something that can been sorted out with developmental therapy/Johansen therapy and again this can cause speech problems because she wouldn't be hearing speech in the same way people usually do.

[maypole1]

I agree with a bit of fun this is a case of getting him back into bed every single time by the hand no talking and no lights on theirs no other way he will get it


If he gets up 20 times you need to put him back 21 times

[Foxy800]

Thanks for the replies. Sounds like it could all be connected RandomMess.

Thanks maypole1 she is taken back everytime she gets up but to no avail at the moment!!!

[RandomMess]

I didn't even have to get up, dd would take herself back to bed but the disrupted sleep still absolutely killed me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[maypole1]

It can take up to 12 weeks of doing it and every time you switch the light on or have a debate to why she has to go back to bed the 12 weeks start again

[RandomMess]

LOL maypole there was never any debate, lights anything in our house. Poor dd would just come in "is it morning yet", "no" and then would trot off back to bed - was like that for 2 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All her sisters used to argue about who had to share a room with her as she was last to sleep and first one up - she just didn't/couldn't sleep.

[Foxy800]

Thanks for the replies ladies. Let's see how we go tonight.

[Foxy800]

Well we were up 4 times in the night, 3 when we were still awake so no snoring from daddy, we were upstairs though with tv quietly on. 4th was about 2 hours later, no snoring from daddy, no tv etc. So not sure at the moment!!

[RandomMess]

how's it been this week?

[Foxy800]

Sorry only just seen this message!!!

It has been very hard work especially with a holiday and getting her back into routine. But fingers crossed this week we slept all night last night and for the last 5 nights before that we got up once only each night.