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to wonder how the hell she stays so slim??

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SequinsAndSparkles · 15/03/2011 13:41

My BIL is engaged to a spanish woman, and we spent the weekend at MIL's, all of us together.

She is very slim, I'd guess a size 6/8. Her skin is glowing and she is stunning, yet her diet perplexes me?

On the first morning, we were all having breakfast, MIL made a fry up for everyone, but I am on a diet so I had special K and some toast. SIL prepared her own breakfast (they are currently staying at MILs while they have some work done on their house), and she had some kind of cheese, can't remember what she said it was, about 10 olives and a slice of ham! Yet she said that my breakfast of Special K and toast was stodgy and apparently English women have 'very strange ideas about nutrition'.

For lunch, she had a chicken salad, but it involved lots of extra virgin olive oil, all over the peppers and a big dollop of salsa. And then for dinner she had chicken smeared in pesto, with green beans in salt, more salsa and a slice of cheese.

How is she so slim??

I didn't have a particuarly healthy weekend in the end, we ended up having a takeaway on the Saturday evening, and SIL wouldn't eat any of it, she wasn't rude, she politely declined but I just find it hypocrytical that she eats all this fatty stuff and made the comment about England having strange ideas about nutrition when I was eating Special K and toast!!

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Morloth · 17/03/2011 08:02

Carbs make me fat, fat makes me skinny.

There you go, it defies all of the 'experts' but in my anecdotal experience that is how it works.

I can eat a few, but mostly I eat lots and lots of protein and fat and treat carbs like extreme treats.

annabelflowers · 17/03/2011 08:22

I had already given up bread for lent, but found myself eating alot of pasta. Yesterday I ate;

porrideg with soy milk and prunes
tuna nicoise salad sans potatoes
salad with ham slices and one egg and a dressing made of grainy mustard lemon juice and olive oil.

I was not hungry at all, and could have skipped the evening meal actually. (probably because I rarely eat lunch so it was a shock for my body to eat it). I felt full, I feel good today and i am pretty excited about this, because this is something that I could both stick to AND enjoy!

Great thread Sequins

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aurynne · 17/03/2011 09:03

Right,if anybody would like to hear the opinion of an actual Spanish woman (me!) who has been living in the UK, here it goes:

People in the UK DO have very strange ideas about nutrition and are obsessed with dieting. That was actually the first thing I noticed when I arrived. That, and how bloody difficult it was to find raw vegetables, healthy meats and oils in the supermarkets. British people think butter is "unhealthy", so instead of using a bit of butter on bread they bathe it in 200 gr of margarine... in case you don't know, margarine is the most unhealthy, trans-fat filled disgusting thing that has ever been made.

British supermarkets are full of "sugar-free", "diet", "light", "fat-free" processed crap. Back in Spain I don't remember a single "low-fat" yoghurt, for example. We drink mostly full-fat milk. We actually do not do diets, I have no idea what the "Atkins diet" is and have no interest in it. If we need to lose weight, we go to the nutritionist or endocrinologist, or just reduce the amount of food we eat... voilà! You lose weight.

Whoever said Spanish people eat low carbs has never been to Spain (or maybe only to British enclaves such as Ibiza). Spanish eat EVERYTHING with bread. Spanish parents teach their kids that the bread is used to push the last bits of food onto the fork (and I am not joking!). However, we don't eat packaged sliced bread... that bread is disgusting! We eat real, loaf bread, without all the crap they put into the sliced one.

Oh, and perhaps in the touristic parts of Spain it is always hot... I come from the North-West, where it is as cold and rainy as in London (it actually snows every year in my hometown). But we still don't eat crap, nor use the cold as an excuse to gorge on cake.

French fries... don't get me going on that! Every British person I met buys the chips already half-fried and frozen. Yuck! Back in my homeland you peel and fry the potatoes in olive oil, and add some garlic, parsley and pepper to them. They are delicious! I once took my British boyfriend to a visit to Spain , my aunties coked some steak with fries to him... and he asked what those delicious potatoy thinghy-magics were! They are actually french fries, mate. What you eat at home is frozen plastic.

Weird eating habits... the UK is the country with the highest number of "-arians". Wherever you go you find vegetarians, vegans, fruitarians... even breatharians! Funny thing is, in every other country in the World, a vegetarian actually has a healthy nutrition... in the UK, vegetarians eat the same processed crap as non-vegetarians... only without animal protein. But the vegs I met would still buy pre-cooked (vegetarian) food and put it into the microwave. And they would eat vegetarian crisps, and vegetarian sausages (yuck!). Sorry, but that is not healthy at all. It is just vegetarian crap.

Obsession with "fats, carbs, proteins"... You know, the thing is, Spanish people do not count calories, do not calculate how much fat, carbs or protein goes into their food... we just use healthy foods and eat until we are not hungry anymore. We don't snack. When I was a child, not once was I offered chips, nachos or any candy between meals... why would I? I had a good meal and I was not hungry until the next one!. And we drink tap water during the day... I will never understand why British mums give Coke to their kids! Have you ever visited a Coke factory? i did once with my school... a third of the bottle is filled with sugar.

We say "no" to food when we are just not hungry... in the UK people got offended if I dared reject food! Why teach children to eat when they are not hungry?

I apologize if I sound like a smug bitch. There are lots of things wrong about Spain, and lots of good things about the Uk (well... I am sure I would find some things if I really thought about it ;). But you guys have to admit that you are not in the position to give Spaniards any lessons about food and diet.

OP, your SIL is damn right... processed cereal is a crap breakfast. And then most British people follow that crap breakfast with... a sandwich for lunch! No wonder you're starving and need "a snack" mid morning and two or three mid-afternoon! Have a proper breakfast, and eat a proper hot cooked lunch, and you will find you don't need to snack, and you will only need a light dinner, and you will go to bed on only a half-full stomach.

Oh, and you won't be fat. Humans have self-regulated their food intake without the need of a diet guru for thousands of years. You just eat natural foods.

Another bit of advice: eat socially! Don't eat on your own at home. Eating is enjoyable, and eating and talking to other people will make your meal last longer, and will make you eat slower and digest the food better. When you take longer to eat, you feel full earlier. It will also improve your social life and get you more communicative with the rest of the people, which is something that British people could learn about too.

Now, I am ready to be flamed :P

Oh, about myself, I eat what I want, including bread and chocolate, and if I get 1-2 extra kilos I just stop eating chocolate for a while, and I lose them in about a week or two. I am living in New Zealand now, and some foods are more difficult to find... but it just means I need to do 2-3 more monthly trips to farmers markets or Mediterranean food stores. If you want to eat healthy, you got to cook healthy. Forget the bloody diet foods, weight-loss pills, and ridiculous diets. If they worked, the UK would be the thinnest country in the World by now. When you are the second fattest country and the top diet-products consumers... that tells you something, doesn't it?

Right, I shut up now :P

¡Un beso!

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RamblingRosa · 17/03/2011 09:14

Aurynne speaks the truth!

tyler80 · 17/03/2011 09:21

Some people in the UK..

Fixed that for you :)

I'd suggest that if that is truly your experience of everyone then you need to mix with a few more people.

Happylander · 17/03/2011 09:21

Special K is rubbish. Programm on the tele about cereals and you may as well eat a bowl of ice cream. Her diet sounds lovely and wish I could be arsed to make those things. It's made me hungry LOL

tyler80 · 17/03/2011 09:23

And if you can't find raw vegetables in the supermarket then maybe a visit to specsavers? Be warned that it might all be covered in hand germs as we don't insist people wear gloves before touching it :)

AlpinePony · 17/03/2011 09:26

Sliced bread? Ugh. Isn't there something daft like 7 spoonfulls of sugar in a regular supermarket loaf? Shock

aurynne · 17/03/2011 09:30

tyler80, I admit I wrote the post in a "slighty" controversial language to promote debate ;). However, I DID mix with as many people as I could, and I have to say I found the vast majority to be like I described. I used to write a weblog in Spanish that attracted lots of readers, and half of the posts were about British strange food habits!. I don't remember one single British person or household that peeled and fried their own fries, for example. Not one. Very, very few that bought real bread, and not sliced sandwich bread. Very few that used the kitchen hobs for anything more than frying an egg. Very few (if any) that did not have fizzy drinks in their fridge available 24/7.

I suppose that, statistically, it is possible that all the people I met for almost 3 years happened to be the tiny fraction that behaved like that, and everyone else I did not meet have amazing nutritional habits. Somehow though, I doubt it.

MoChan · 17/03/2011 09:32

Aurynne, there is nothing to 'flame' you for, everything you say is true.

The trouble is, we have been brainwashed by the media and by food companies and by the diet industry. I bought that when I was thirteen and very slightly overweight; I dieted and dieted for about ten years, before realising, in my early twenties, that slim-a-soup and fat free cottage cheese were not the answer. They got me when I was growing, and vulnerable, and it took me a while to think for myself about it. I really resent it, because I think it all led to ill health, depression, and a poor relationship with food. Just glad I wised-up when I did, as now I tend to eat a (mostly) healthy diet.

The other thing to take into account is that different ways of eating work for different body types. If I eat only relatively small amounts of carb, I start gain weight, so a diet rich in oils, proteins and lower carb veg suits me better - I tend to get the carb I do eat from pulses and carby veg rather than rice/pasta/bread. My OH eats what I eat but with added carbs. If he stopped the carbs, he'd lose half a stone or more, in just a few days.

I think we think too much about it, in any case; the thing is to eat healthily, and stay active. And healthy food is the kind that's seen as little processing as possible.

MoChan · 17/03/2011 09:35

That said, I do think there are a fair amount of British people who DO cook, and DO make their own chips! I think you have come across the worst of it.

beautyspot · 17/03/2011 09:36

Aurynne says and lots of good things about the Uk (well... I am sure I would find some things if I really thought about it ;)

You may know a little bit about nutrition however you don't seem to know much about good manners.

aurynne · 17/03/2011 09:37

tyler80, I have never seen Spanish people wearing gloves to touch the fruit and veges! Some elderly Spanish ladies actually spend half an hour touching and pressing every piece before choosing their favorite. Another very Spanish thing is, we don't worry about germs as much.

I COULD find veges in British supermarkets... but I usually had to walk past 3 lines of shelves full of crisps, pre-cooked food and frozen pizza. Variety of veges, fruit, fish and meat was much, much smaller than in Spain. In my hometown in Spain we rarely buy those things in the supermarket, though. We usually have a fruit shop, a fish shop and a butcher's in every block. Supermarket fish and meat, especially, are perceived as the cheaper and worse option.

BooBearBoo · 17/03/2011 09:38

** - my mother (in her 40s still) makes her own chips (fries), buys real bread and we were never allowed fizzy drinks!! (Except maybe at Christmas) :)

BooBearBoo · 17/03/2011 09:39

That should say aurynne at the beginnin!!

WinterOfOurDiscountTents · 17/03/2011 09:39

I don't understand what people could be eating then if they don't use their hob for anything other than frying an egg? Confused

aurynne · 17/03/2011 09:40

beautyspot, the winky smiley at the end of that sentence means that it was intended as a joke :)

aurynne · 17/03/2011 09:42

Winter, the ones I knew mainly used the microwave and the oven to heat pre-cooked meals. Most of the proper cooking was made only when they had visitors for dinner, or during Christmas and particular dates.

Ormirian · 17/03/2011 09:42

"I don't remember one single British person or household that peeled and fried their own fries, for example. Not one. Very, very few that bought real bread, and not sliced sandwich bread. Very few that used the kitchen hobs for anything more than frying an egg. "

really? I think you must have been meeting the wrong people Hmm

noddyholder · 17/03/2011 09:44

Aurynnes post does hit a nerve We do in general eat terribly here and fill trollies with packaged crap! It is actually more expensive to eat that way! This is why we all come back slimmer from a holiday in greece even though seem to eat more.

Ormirian · 17/03/2011 09:44

Don't disagree though that the best food is the most natural and unmessed about with.

But you are a little rude it has to be said.

noddyholder · 17/03/2011 09:45

Why is it rude to state the obvious!?

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