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to think the 'F' word is one we should be proud of......

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PosieComeHereMyPreciousParker · 25/10/2010 15:18

Thanks to MN, especially dittany, Lenin, BoF and Anyfucker, I have been made aware of my casual attitude to misogyny. This short journey in my reclaiming my old values recently lead me to the London Feminist Network Conference on Saturday. And Oh my God it is one of the most inspirational things I've ever done.

Having money and being relatively attractive in my younger days I was mislead into thinking that being a feminist was irrelevant, after all we had a female PM and then 'girl power' where we were fooled into thinking with the right body shape and a little wit the world was our oyster (farm).

My husband's and friends' response to my recent activities have ranged from being mystified to mockery, from resentment to full on stereotypical prejudice. I am alarmed that barely any of my friends think feminism is relevant.

Am I being unreasonable to reclaim the word feminist to mean a person that wants to rid the world of gender prejudiced?

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scottishmummy · 28/10/2010 00:23

oh how we laughed,useless digression

TheFallenMadonna · 28/10/2010 00:24

Really? Wasn't the OP posting about a conference she had attended, that others on here also attended? With lots of like minded feminists? Alternative paradigms certainly. I remember monkeytrousers comprehensive ev psych reading lists Hmm. But a bit premature to talk of paradigm shift I think.

scottishmummy · 28/10/2010 00:25

au contraire i disuss the paradigm shift and challenges regularly.hence my active posting

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HerBeatitude · 28/10/2010 00:27

sm, does the paradigm shift look at all like the paradigm shift that happened in the nineties, when people like the Spice Girls rebranded feminism as Girl Power and people like Jodie Marsh and Jordan sprayed themselves orange and disrobed, declaring themselves liberated and empowered? In other words, a paradigm shift in which the enormous, sexist backlash against feminism, was very thinly disguised as "new, improved, up to date feminism"?

The undermining never ceases, does it?

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TheFallenMadonna · 28/10/2010 00:30

You might discuss something you call a paradigm shift, but I don't see it. And the fact that there is plenty of discourse of the kind that you think has been replaced is evidence that no such shift has happened. What do you understnad by the term paradigm shift?

scottishmummy · 28/10/2010 00:31

aren't you an academic dittany?i see other published peer reviewed stuff is guff.only the london conference was the real deal.how very curious

so Scottish/rest uk who didn't participate are they out the loop too

wukterWOOO · 28/10/2010 00:31

What paradignm shift are you talking about SM? You've mentioned something about rebranding. What about the central tenets? Are they the same.

You seem to be advocating Feminism - Now in Frillier Knickers.

Or something

Pan · 28/10/2010 00:31

dittany, am not seeing where 'radical feminism' is making this massive comeback, tbh. As unfortunate as it may be. Women are still getting locked up for minor offences/less previous convictions. Are still getting murdered at the constant rate. Convictions for rape haven't gone up. Mainstream, and easily accessible, porn stuff is still very high profile. et al.

simply not seeing a re-politicisation of feminism, yet. Point to where it is happening? A bit? Not being testy about this at all. Just not seeing what you describe, and its needed, yes.

TheFallenMadonna · 28/10/2010 00:33

I'm afraid I don't see a resurgence of it either dittany. Sadly. Not in my world. Or my staffroom...

TheFallenMadonna · 28/10/2010 00:34

I see very little thinking about feminism from any perspective.

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scottishmummy · 28/10/2010 00:39

you will know of the malaise and strife about rebrand feminism then. i know of peer reviewed and academics as i know them.and i like to read range of literature also

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scottishmummy · 28/10/2010 00:43

again dittany erroneously assume i didnt know about conference? dearie me.friends attended i heard all about it,even saw photos

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scottishmummy · 28/10/2010 00:44

thats succint and clever.gosh youre on fire

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scottishmummy · 28/10/2010 00:50

given otgers responded and you didnt,error was you.dont worryhave a sleep get you mojo back tomrrow

Pan · 28/10/2010 00:51

yep, points taken, dittany. I guess I am too inclined for looking for results. I know about kernels of advancement - they take ages to get any anywhere. And recognised to be as such.

sm - such a conference in say, Aberdeen, would simply not get the crowd, or coverage. You know this, though it is a bit galling that much of activity has to be in the SE.

scottishmummy · 28/10/2010 00:55

not advocating hold in NE Scotland,but non attendance dont=not bothered.pragmatically for travel,speakers,participants venue suited.fortunately via links,photos and email is v accessible

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