Dairy intolerance. Lots of questions

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Exczema has flared up badly again in my son. When he was a baby, I kept him off dairy for quite a while and his excsema (how do you spell it?) went away. Well, now it's back.

Have cut out milk (replaced with rice dream), using soya yoghurt and olivio. But what about cheese? He loves it, we eat loads.

Is goats cheese likely to be okay? Or is there some acceptable alternative?

With thanks in advance.

Our local health food sells diary free cheese, the cream cheese not that great but ok when I put my chutney on. The cheese slices are nicer.
Our sainsburys do diary free choc buttons, for a treat. Usually goats cheese ok but some can be allergic to both

Thanks Orangehead. I shall take myself off to the health food stores.

Thank you. I have copied these names down and will find them. Much appreciated.

I thought olivio contained milk but wasnt sure, I use pure soya spread (same make as hoochies recommendation) both available at tescos and sainsburys and probably other supermarkets

ds2 has a dairy intolerance, and in my extensive online searching did come across a lot of evidence that if your child is intolerant to cow's milk they're likely to be intolerant to goat's too

ditto other posters who have pointed out that Olivio contains milk.
the only dairy free one I have found is Pure sunflower or soya spread, you can get it in sainsburys.

we prefer the oat milk too, because it's just oats, water and sea salt whereas the rice milk has oil and stuff in it too

olivio has some milk in it - Vitalite has gone dairy-free these days
we use goats milk and goat cheese, my dc have cows milk protein intolerance [not lactose] which isn't an allergy but they get pretty much food-poisoning if they have cows milk.

Take a look at Aldi as lots of their stuff happens to be df because they don't seem to feel the need to shove butter in everything.
there is a df sauce powder and heaps of df stuff in asda - we also use alpro soya milkshakes for the dc to take to school for break times.
we had a thread on this the other day - was it Sunday?.... i'll see if i can find it and do you a link

Dairy free cheese is an acquired taste - however, my dd2 has been having it since she was 1 and likes it.
As a vegan, I find it okay melted onto things (Redwood do melting ones) but don't like it straight from the packet.

Try cubes of tofu, with a bit of tamari, fried - nice, dairy free flavoursome chunks.

that thread is here, it's not the same scenario but we put a good few brand-names and products on there and your question about goats milk gets a look in.
HTH

Depends on the type of intolerance as to whether goat's milk etc. of any benefit - if it is a lactose intolerance causing the eczema (correct spelling) then goat's milk will NOT help as it also contains lactose.
If it is a cow's milk protein intolerance then goat's milk may be ok as the proteins are different; BUT there may be cross reaction between intolerance to CMP and to goat milk proteins.
Only way to find out, without doing tests, is to try goat's milk and see what happens.

On the cheese question, again it will depend on the type of intolerance - lactose intolerance is less affected by cheese because much of the lactose is lost in the cheese-making process; same with yoghurt.
If it is intolerance to the cow's milk proteins then cheese and yoghurt will still affect him.

HTH

my dd1 reacently has been told no dairy its the milk proteins that seem to be the problem since on this diet her health has improved alot. she is very unhappy that she cant eat cheese (she is 8)
we have tried cheese substitutes but they have horrible aftertaste. we also use that pure sunflower spread which she likes alot and finds the dairyfree choc buttons ok. where can i get dairy free cooking choc from?
Also we have made a white sauce using dairy free milk flour and the pure spread and added soy sauce it gives it a cheesy taste so she can still have her version of macoroni cheese or lasagna...

Thanks everyone. That is really helpful.
I was a bit taken aback to be honest because he hadn't had it for years and it came back with a vengeance. So now I am having to rethink family meals and adapt things. He adores cheese and it's so useful for packed lunches. Milk also a problem when it comes to cooking. Presumably I could use these substitutes for things like rice pudding. What about coconut milk?

ive tried rice milk with rice pudding which she ate no problem. family meals can be a problem there are 5 of us but it looks like her sister who is two is going the same way. Lunch boxes are a problem my daughter likes the alpro soya strawb yoghurt in the chilled section at tescos sainsburys do a dairy free ice cream and i have to cook alot of things from scratch which is probably healthier its also teaching my daughter for later when she has to do it herself and showing her she can adapt recipies. milk is is so many things we read everything. my dd has pasta and tuna for school as she hates sandwiches.

Alpro yoghurts a great success. I need to source these "cheese" things.

we get them from our local health shop also try holland and barrett staff here v friendly and often know where to get things from if they dont stock it.

Sorry to keep asking but if you are cooking for a family when only one person is lactose intolerant, do you make two different things? Or has everybody got to learn to like rice dream or soya. Obviously with cheese I can make separate sandwiches but two cheese sauces? Really?

Sorbet a brilliant idea.
Anyway, I'm off to the health food shop on the way to school.
Thanks again.

We went dairy free for ds (due to ear infection probs) and have been gradually adding things - I have an intollerance to milk but can have cheese and yoghurt as the lactose is altered in the fermentation process. Ds appears to be fine on goats milk though, so is a bit different to me - have got as far as cows cheese without problems, but dh fed him some shop-bought muffin the other day that bounced back after about 1hr, so I am still thinking that he might have an intollerance to cows milk.

Best source of cheese substitutes I found was local healthfood shop. Ds wasn't that keen on cheese substitutes though, so I made sure that he had plenty of nut butters (not a problem for him luckily) for lunches. Much easier since we got back onto goats cheese etc, so I hope that you find that your ds can also tollerate them.

Watch out for whey products in bread, biscuits, cakes, crips, sauces etc - can be really difficult at birthday parties - we used to take 'special' food for ds, but he can have most of it now. To start with you will pour over labels, but once you've found which ones are OK, should get easier.

my dd has tried cheesely and does not like it as she remembers real cheese my younger dd likes it but has not had real cheese. my dd also cant have pineapple, rasberries or citrus. she likes sorbets to but misses real ice cream. eating out can be difficult we just have to remember to check first so she is not disapointed if she cant have things when we get there. i will also try alpro for the book thankyou for that turniphead1 we r still finding our feet as she only started this a few months ago after 4 years of trying to find out what was wrong. at least she is hospital appointment free for the next 2 years if this diet works! so far so good

we use same sauce or at the end we dish our dd out first then add cheese on top of ours also use the pure in sanwiches and our ds has not noticed the difference. i find all of us trying things together is better for my dd so she does not feel excluded. party food can be a problem im lucky my dd friends parents r sensitive a have seperate or food she can eat with others though party cakes big problem also people dont always realise that veg spreads can still have dairy in.

yes some fishfingers have milk protein or milk products in others dont i have noticed the breakfast cereals didnt know about salami thank u for that. We gave my dd friend dairy free choc and she liked it. my ds also likes the glace as well. the hospital gave us a list of all the different names milk can be called in products. shopping is getting quicker.

Have bought some Alpro and some Mozarella style cheese slices. They look a bit wan but perhaps they taste better than they look. Will try them in packed lunches.

He doesn't like ice cream so I'm not worried about that. And I will try some of the nut spreads. I've never given him peanut butter but I know there are others.

for a good book on lactose-free cooking and some good info about lactose intolerance, including hidden lactose, see this link - excellent book.