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nut allergies: popcorn? avoids chocolate - other sweets safe?

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lilolilmanchester · 21/10/2011 11:41

Am taking up a MNetter's gift suggestion of a cinema "hamper" for a friend's child - voucher, popcorn, drink, sweets... This child has a "mild nut allergy" (that's how his Mum's describes it - ie he doesn't carry an epi pen, and takes antihistimine if he accidentally eats something "nutty". )
Excuse my ignorance, but is popcorn ok? Also, I know he avoids chocolate "just in case" - what else could I put in? Jelly/chewy type sweets ??

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Inghouls2 · 23/10/2011 20:59

hi eragon.. I'm assuming that Tom thinks Ds1 will outgrow, hence seeing him again when he's 14. The challenge was in the Pembury Allergy clinic (part of Pembury Hospital) and followed a skin prick test, (5mm blister to peanut, nothing to all tree nuts) and blood tests, (negative) the peanut was rubbed on ds1's chin and developed a blister within 5 mins.
Tom was lovely, very nonchalant about the whole thing. We talked about how we've managed it for the last 7 years and he seemed happy that we were doing enough. The only thing was, Ds1 asked if he could reintroduce tree nuts and Tom said no...he recommended we stayed as we are. Ds1 sounds like your friends son, ezcema, mild asthma, nothing major,...hence my mild description. Grin

eragon · 23/10/2011 21:34

well, 5mm is a very good positive to peanut. our son wasnt put forward for challenging with a much lower rate than that....
i wonder how wildly different individual doctors approach all this.....?

our son did outgrow egg, but has totally re-developed it. Havent heard that about peanut btw.

he passed cooked egg at 7, raw egg at 10, told that he would still give him a itchy throat, but not ana.

ana to egg again at 12, established to be raw egg, rxn to cooked egg, at 14, confirmed by skin prick test to be raw egg as suspected.

peanut, has been consistantly high in measurement, with other matching allergies.
did your son start of with a very large result and go down giving rise to the possible chance of outgrowing?

and was the challenge in a hosptial ward?

we havent bothered with challenges for tree nuts, as we avoid all but those directly from the shell.

dont feel u have to reply am very nosy , sorry.

ChocaMum · 23/10/2011 22:05

Wow inghouls, I'm impressed how much your DS can eat and how different the opinions are. I hope the good news continues. I am also surprised that a 5 mm skin prick test meant you could continue with the testing, we were told that 5 mm is a strong positive result. And also that rubbing peanut on the skin caused urticaria, I'm honestly quite confused that you don't have an epipen for this. Anyway I hope that your DS' allergy, eczema and asthma continue to improve.

Tras, I would hope that if everything is being done in a hospital setting that they are doing everything properly rather than just telling you not to worry. So I should hope their advise is reliable. Good luck.

MeMySonAndI · 24/10/2011 00:02

Inghouls, does this doctor is aware your son, despite the allergies, has never been prescribed an epipen? DS allergician never asks if I have one, he just assumes I have had one for ages, know how to use it and would be replacing them every year as it was indicated by letter to GP aeons ago.

Wonder if he has slip through the cracks, at the end of the day, they hardly have the time to go all the way down through the patients' records.

Inghouls2 · 24/10/2011 20:55

that could be the case MeMySonandI but Tom was aware this was the first time Ds1 has ever been tested or had intervention since the first and only time he's had a peanut, 7 years previously.
I will ask, as unfortunately we'll be at the Pembury on Wed, Ds1 broke his wrist today so we're in the fracture clinic then Sad
In answer to your questions eragon I don't know about levels I'm afraid,...see above. But the only time he ate a peanut, within seconds his face was swollen and blotchy, especially round the mouth and eyes, he felt his throat was closed and then he projectile vomited everywhere.
and, yes the challenge was on the allergy clinic ward in the hospital... he went with my husband expecting to be there for the day, and was out by 9.30 having failed straight away.

ChocaMum · 24/10/2011 22:17

It still doesn't quite make sense to me. The sensation of your throat closing and swelling around the mouth are all signs of anaphylaxis and a definite indicator to have epipens. That really doesn't sound like a mild reaction. Anyway I hope his wrist is ok. And good luck with quizzing Tom about it all, you certainly have us all confused!

eragon · 24/10/2011 22:35

at the end of the day it is still parental choice to have a epi pen. once you have one you have to accept that your life, and that of your childs will change dramtically.

and sometimes when children are young, some parents consider that they can control the situation and reconsider when child is younger.

its often hard to understand this if you are a parent who has had to jump up and down to get a epi pen, as we were .... but for some this works very well when child is younger.

the parents that go down this route often have one main food allergy, and avoid the repeated reactions to that one food.

personally, i wouldnt choose to have a food challenge with such positive skin prick results, as its well known that peanut spt has been proved to be consistant positive, unlike other food spt.

and of course , proof that he was highly allergic was shown in the first step of the challenge process. Sometimes such results give confimation of the allergy, and underlay the current avoidance plan a parent has....
btw
have heard that some gps ask if they can stop prescribing epi pens due to lack of use........which is very wrong medical judgement!

each immunologist varies,( as we have found out) on their own picture of your child, so asking for other doctors opinon should be ( and is for complicated cases) standard practice in a large allergy clinic. but we dont have that many of them around the country!

anyway, the issue of epi pens should, rightly or wrongly depend on the parents final say.

Interesting, ingouls that your doc advised to avoid tree nuts, when we have been asked to GIVE them to our no longer tree nut allergic son, which we do, but only seasonal due to non availalbity of tree nuts with shells on.

Peachy · 24/10/2011 22:42

Mild allergy = no anaphalaxis YET. DS1 is awaiting an appt with allergy consulatnt and we've been tol no epipen until then, just piriton and 999 if warranted (not nuts)

DS1's reaction isn;t mild- afce almost doubles in size and we have pictorial evidence, but nonetheless appt is 6 months wait. And that we have been told is that- cherries apples and peaches ATM. The latter quite ironically.

ChocaMum · 25/10/2011 09:27

Good luck peachy. Hopefully with your list of fruits they should be not too difficult to avoid while you wait. I'm afraid 6 months is fairly typical becaue the allergy services are very underfunded so there aren't that many of them. And most gp's unfortunately are reluctant to prescribe epipens until a formal diagnosis has been made by the specialists. It's a very stressful time so I hope you're all doing ok.

Peachy · 26/10/2011 20:51

You'd be amazed how hard it is to avoid them but that's the autistic stuff lilmiting food + milk intol (lots of alternatives sweetened with apple ) conundrum

I know threy are underfunded; seems same everywhere, ds4 was refered for asd in April and not even the 6 month warning date.

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