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Weight loss injections for alcohol support

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Excitedforchange879 · 01/09/2024 06:35

Has anyone tried mounjaro, wegovy or mysimba for alcohol support? I drink approx 70 units a week and have food cravings and binges similar to drink I think. The injections are meant to 'switch off the noise'. I qualify to purchase privately as I am a couple of stone overweight. Thinking of giving it a try to get me through the first hurdle, can't seem to quit alcohol for more than a week for the past few years and it of course effects weight loss

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MotherMushroom · 01/09/2024 13:45

I've read a lot on sober forums about Mounjaro turning off alcohol cravings. I'm very interested in trying it. How can you get it privately if you don't mind me asking? I don't really want to ask my GP for it.

nextdoorconundrum · 01/09/2024 14:12

Google Mountjaro.. I have used Voy and ZAVA both good. Look on the weight loss board under discount codes (specific topic) .. fill out questionnaire.. send required photo evidence. Pay your money and be amazed ..

BeautyGoesToBenidorm · 01/09/2024 14:17

For alcohol, you're better off with Mysimba, which contains naltrexone - a well-known anti-craving medication for alcohol.

However... if you're concerned about your drinking, you could save yourself a lot of money if you refer yourself to an addiction support agency and ask about obtaining a script for naltrexone from there (which would be the usual cost of an NHS prescription).

Touty · 01/09/2024 14:28

Interesting. How does it switch off the cravings?

JumboTrudgeon · 01/09/2024 14:34

I've been on MJ for 2 months, I'm a bit of a binge drinker and hoped it'd help.

I've lost a stone and am definitely eating less, but I've found that actually my hangovers are far reduced on MJ. I can drink a bottle of wine and feel much less hungover the next day than pre-MJ. It's not touched the alcohol noise for me.

Sandwichgen · 01/09/2024 14:35

I think I drink more on MJ…

SnacklessWonder · 01/09/2024 14:37

I am currently on MJ and I've gone from being a daily wine drinker (two glasses, more at the weekend) to not having had a single glass. I just don't fancy it anymore.

Excitedforchange879 · 01/09/2024 16:40

https://joinvoy.com/r/U-CTmu8GYiju I joined today having read up on it on google and Mumsnet etc. I believe it is the GLP-1 it alters the chemicals in you brain so you do not crave food but this is why I ask as I presume it would do the same with alcohol?

https://joinvoy.com/r/U-CTmu8GYiju

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Excitedforchange879 · 01/09/2024 16:41

Why do you think this is? I binge eating also when hungover so it would help with that I guess? And then drink again so I think it may still be helpful?

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Peridot1 · 01/09/2024 16:43

I haven’t tried Mounjaro but have been on both Ozempic and Wegovy. Did nothing for my alcohol consumption!

Excitedforchange879 · 01/09/2024 21:02

MotherMushroom · 01/09/2024 13:45

I've read a lot on sober forums about Mounjaro turning off alcohol cravings. I'm very interested in trying it. How can you get it privately if you don't mind me asking? I don't really want to ask my GP for it.

https://joinvoy.com/r/U-CTmu8GYiju I joined today having read up on it on google and Mumsnet etc. I believe it is the GLP-1 it alters the chemicals in you brain so you do not crave food but this is why I ask as I presume it would do the same with alcohol? I'm the same, can't see my GP agreeing to it asap, when I spoke about it before they just told me not to worry and try my best... I'm a long way in now and know from experience of others ive seen and heard of that you have to be really in a bad bad place for them to do anything anyway

https://joinvoy.com/r/U-CTmu8GYiju

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Excitedforchange879 · 01/09/2024 21:03

Sandwichgen · 01/09/2024 14:35

I think I drink more on MJ…

Why do you think this is? I binge eating also when hungover so it would help with that I guess? And then drink again so I think it may still be helpful?

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Excitedforchange879 · 01/09/2024 21:05

Peridot1 · 01/09/2024 16:43

I haven’t tried Mounjaro but have been on both Ozempic and Wegovy. Did nothing for my alcohol consumption!

Why do you think this is? I binge eating also when hungover so it would help with that I guess? And then drink again so I think it may still be helpful? Why have you been on 3 different options? Side effects/not working?

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InfoSecInTheCity · 01/09/2024 21:12

Mounjaro contains GLP-1 and GIP, it may help because you'll feel more full but it's not changing chemicals in your brain that would be likely to reduce cravings for alcohol. It's designed to regulate insulin and blood glucose levels.

How do GLP-1 agonists work?
To understand how GLP-1 agonists work, it helps to understand how the naturally occurring GLP-1 hormone works.
GLP-1 is a hormonee that your small intestinee makes. It has several roles, including:
• Triggering insulinn release from your pancreass: Insulin is an essential hormone that allows your body to use the food you eat for energy. It lowers the amount of glucose (sugar) in your blood. If you don’t have enough insulin, your blood sugar increases, leading to diabetess_.
• Blocking glucagon secretion: Glucagonn_ is a hormone your body uses to raise your blood sugar levels when necessary. So, GLP-1 prevents more glucose from going into your bloodstream.
• Slowing stomach emptying: Slower digestion means that your body releases less glucose (sugar) from the food you eat into your bloodstream.
• Increasing how full you feel after eating (satiety): GLP-1 affects areas of your brain that processes hunger and satiety.
GLP-1 agonist medications work by mimicking this hormone. In medication terms, an agonist is a manufactured substance that attaches to a cell receptor and causes the same action as the naturally occurring substance. In other words, GLP-1 medications bind to GLP receptors to trigger the effects (or roles) of the GLP-1 hormone. The higher the dose of the GLP-1 agonist, the more extreme the effects.
If you have Type 2 diabetes, the medications help manage your blood sugar by triggering your pancreas to release more insulin. The slowed digestion also helps decrease blood sugar spikes.
The satiety effect of GLP1-agonists reduces your food intake, appetite and hunger. These combined effects often result in weight loss.

What is glucose-dependent insulinotropic peptide?
Glucose-dependent insulinotropic peptide is a hormone released from the small intestine that enhances the release of insulin following the intake of food. It is a member of the family of hormones known as the incretins of which the other main member is the hormone glucagon-like peptide 1.
Glucose-dependent insulinotropic peptide is made and secreted mainly from the upper section of the small intestine from a specific type of cell known as the K cell. Its main action occurs in the pancreas where it targets beta cells, which produce insulin. Glucose-dependent insulinotropic peptide stimulates the release of insulin from the beta cells in the pancreas in order to maintain low blood sugar levels after eating. It also increases the production of these cells and reduces the rate at which they break down.

SnacklessWonder · 01/09/2024 21:17

Mounjaro contains GLP-1 and GIP, it may help because you'll feel more full but it's not changing chemicals in your brain that would be likely to reduce cravings for alcohol. It's designed to regulate insulin and blood glucose levels.

The reason it's changed my cravings for alcohol is because of the appetite suppression and change of taste of some things. It's just not appealing in the same way some foods aren't. Chips for instance, I could have eaten them all day, had some the other day and they were blah, not interested. I've hit the same with alcohol. My appetite and desire has changed.

Excitedforchange879 · 01/09/2024 21:21

BeautyGoesToBenidorm · 01/09/2024 14:17

For alcohol, you're better off with Mysimba, which contains naltrexone - a well-known anti-craving medication for alcohol.

However... if you're concerned about your drinking, you could save yourself a lot of money if you refer yourself to an addiction support agency and ask about obtaining a script for naltrexone from there (which would be the usual cost of an NHS prescription).

Is it as easy as that I didn't think it would be, my doctor when it ried to breach the subject wasn't concerned, things have to be awful in my opinion for them to do anything, and that is just referrals?

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ApoodlecalledPenny · 01/09/2024 21:24

I’m on wegovy and have completely gone off alcohol. I think it does have that effect on some people, but clearly not everyone.

There’s a great podcast episode about naltrexone, and I wonder if it might be an option for you? https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/reflector/id1743666262?i=1000653826427

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Excitedforchange879 · 01/09/2024 21:26

SnacklessWonder · 01/09/2024 21:17

Mounjaro contains GLP-1 and GIP, it may help because you'll feel more full but it's not changing chemicals in your brain that would be likely to reduce cravings for alcohol. It's designed to regulate insulin and blood glucose levels.

The reason it's changed my cravings for alcohol is because of the appetite suppression and change of taste of some things. It's just not appealing in the same way some foods aren't. Chips for instance, I could have eaten them all day, had some the other day and they were blah, not interested. I've hit the same with alcohol. My appetite and desire has changed.

I hope so, will power, meetings etc. just aren't working long term. I need that something to get me started to let me realise I can give up and so my lifestyle will change. Doctors won't let me have anything I believe unless I 'hit rock bottom' I'm trying to stop that from being the case. I'm a long way off but things are getting worse slowly. Not better

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BeautyGoesToBenidorm · 02/09/2024 08:25

Excitedforchange879 · 01/09/2024 21:21

Is it as easy as that I didn't think it would be, my doctor when it ried to breach the subject wasn't concerned, things have to be awful in my opinion for them to do anything, and that is just referrals?

@Excitedforchange879 you can self-refer to your local addiction support service, they're much more proactive than GPs in treating alcohol misuse, naturally.

Give it a go! Better to head rock bottom off at the pass - I'm a recovering alcoholic and a former alcohol support worker, feel free to PM me if you need a friendly ear ☺️

free79 · 02/09/2024 08:32

You're choosing the oral root to suppress and deal with feelings and it would be best to learn CBT tools like with Smart Recovery or a therapist or a CBT book. Eating and drinking are symptoms of not being able to process and deal with your thoughts and feelings, until you do this it's all bandaids. Weight loss injections have side effects. Face your demons to break the cycle, don't put yet more harm into your system.

Trebol · 02/09/2024 09:26

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Peridot1 · 02/09/2024 09:31

@Excitedforchange879 - I have been on two weight loss medications - Ozempic and Wegovy. Although as they are the same medication- semaglutide - it is really only one. I switched from Ozempic to Wegovy once it became available. I stopped Wegovy three weeks ago as I have stalled now for quite a while. I’m going to see how I go for a bit on my own but will try Mounjaro if I feel I need to.

SnacklessWonder · 02/09/2024 10:45

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I am 2 stone overweight and I got it, because it's based on BMI rather than weight, and I am short!

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