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Alcohol support

The Freedom Thread (Continued) - Enjoying the positives of an alcohol free life *Title edited by MNHQ*

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BunniesBunniesBunnies · 24/11/2021 16:21

Hello all,

This is a thread for people who have decided that life is much better without alcohol!🤩 These threads were started by @Drybird, and they have changed the lives of many people.

Some posters on these threads have been sober for a long time, and some are only just starting. We are a very friendly and inclusive bunch and we are always excited when someone new joins the thread. The only thing we ask is that our posters have given up alcohol completely. Talk of moderation can be triggering for some people, so this thread is not the right place for that (there are other moderation threads🙂).

I hope to see many familiar names on this thread, and some new ones too! We always welcome anyone to share their feelings, ask questions or simply “check in”🙂

I’d also like to thank @Breathmiller for hosting the last thread (and to ask for your forgiveness for shamelessly stealing your thread title😳) - Thank you @Breathmiller 💐

Thanks all!

Bunnies

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BunniesBunniesBunnies · 29/11/2021 06:37

Well done @CardinalCat and especially well done to @Stuckhere2021, you have done amazingly💪

Welcome @Alcoh!

Also well done @PinnyPencher3 and @indiesearcher and @ElsaCragg!!!

I had to get up super early for work today but it’s sooo much easier when I don’t drink. I actually quite like getting up early these days🤩

Hope everyone one has a good week. If you have a tricky (boozy) event coming up, think carefully in advance about how you’re going to manage it (in terms of coping mechanisms and what you will tell people, if anything). Being well prepared not to drink is half the battle I think.

Good luck all!

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BunniesBunniesBunnies · 29/11/2021 06:38

Don’t think about how much you’ve missed @Alcoh. Everyone has regrets, whether related to booze or not. Think instead about all the amazing clearheaded times you have ahead of you. Just look forwards and keep going!

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Newmum738 · 29/11/2021 06:39

@SparklingLime

Welcome *@Newmum738*. An unsupportive or undermining DP is not ideal, but others on here have managed despite that. Sending strength! Well done for getting started.

Thanks @SparklingLime we had a good chat last night and whilst he said he doesn't think it's a big issue, he will support me. I guess if we keep the conversation going we can see how it goes. Day 2 ahead!
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Stuckhere2021 · 29/11/2021 09:15

@Newmum738 - I used to worry that drinking would change my relationship with DH as we were drinking buddies, loved a walk to a beer garden etc (he is a very moderate drinker).

Guess what - it really did but not for the reasons you might think. My drinking got so bad he left me for a while and lost all respect for me. We are back together and things are really good apart from my binge drinking- this is one of the reasons I must vomit to an AF life. Of course not everyone will end up as bad as me, but alcohol is intended to be addictive so it’s just a matter of time for many people.

Good luck on your journey with or without your DH support.

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Stuckhere2021 · 29/11/2021 09:15

Vomit = comit! Freudian slip there !

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Stuckhere2021 · 29/11/2021 09:18

@Alcoh - I had to watch the last 2 episodes of Squid Game again last night because I was hammered the first time and couldn’t remember what happened- it was really bugging me as I loved the show. So looking forward to never waking up again wondering what happened and trying to piece conversations together

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EIsaCragg · 29/11/2021 10:16

@Stuckhere2021, you will get more clarity of thought (and better sleep, clearer skin, etc etc) the longer you are alcohol free.

I am constantly surprised that both my short and long term memory have improved so much. And being present in your life instead of a bystander is a great feeling. It may mean addressing some difficult issues; I did a lot of soul searching in the early days.

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AurevoirLesEnfants · 29/11/2021 10:29

Hi all!

Really encouraging to read all the benefits people are feeling.

Day 3 here. I'm warning friends that I can't stay out late at the night out I'm going to. Hopefully that translates well into being able to explain not drinking! I might park my car at the station. Can't drive where I'm going, but I can drive myself to the station and leave the car there. I also never drink a drop and drive, so won't be tempted by a 'driver's measure'.

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indiesearcher · 29/11/2021 11:37

Morning all!

Checking in for Monday, looking forward to a calm and organised week ahead. Not something that ever existed when I was drinking every night!

Hoping to get the Christmas feels a bit this week too and write some shopping lists etc.

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pantherinapantsuit · 29/11/2021 12:26

Hi, I'd like to join in if that's okay Smile I'm kind of new to this- day 1. I've been feeling more and more uncomfortable about my drinking maybe for the last year, and last night I decided to make a change.

Drinking has been a feature of my life always really, I associate it with good times, relaxation, so its going to be a hard habit to break. I'm not physically dependent but I am definitely psychologically dependent, i often look forward to my evening drink all day and can be seen counting down the minutes to 5pm. Which has sometimes become 4pm...

I rely on alcohol for stress relief, as a crutch for getting through parenting my young children which I find pretty hard. I'm not sure anymore that I'm in control. I'm looking forward to making a change, I'm fed up of sleepless nights, twitchiness, fuzzy head mornings, the dread at 3am when the hangover kicks in.

I want to be a better version of myself. So I'm joining in here to read your posts and keep myself on track - willpower and 'giving up' things never works for me so I need to reframe it for myself as gaining something- new energy, better health, better coping strategies, hopefully better skin! Great to virtually meet people in the same headspace!

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AurevoirLesEnfants · 29/11/2021 13:15

Hi @pantherinapantsuit! I can relate to a lot of what you say. I've always been a bit of a party person...

Also really looking forward to some sober Christmassyness.

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indiesearcher · 29/11/2021 13:16

Welcome @pantherinapantsuit (great user name!)

I for one could have written your post, and many of us will have been there. Im only a month in but can honestly say that making this a permanent change, and the support of this group, has been incredible and I wish I'd done it years ago.

We all used alcohol for something and I think one way or another we've all had a defining moment or 'sober curiosity' that sets in when you want to improve yourself and the relationship you have with booze.

So glad you found the thread - and congratulations on your day 1.

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BunniesBunniesBunnies · 29/11/2021 14:27

@pantherinapantsuit welcome! I could have written your post 20 months ago or so. I feared it would be so hard to break the habit and that I would miss wine forever! The first bit was hard but I rarely miss it now. My life is so much nicer without alcohol. Anyway welcome and good luck!

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ChampooPapi · 29/11/2021 14:58

30 days dry 🙌 checking in

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pantherinapantsuit · 29/11/2021 15:21

@ChampooPapi congratulations 👏 have you found it hard? Do you mind sharing any tips or things you did to get you through all the first tricky bits (eg the first Friday night) did you do new or different things to help you? And more importantly how do you feel?

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Adm1010 · 29/11/2021 15:35

Hi all just checking in Smile

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Stuckhere2021 · 29/11/2021 18:07

@pantherinapantsuit - welcome! I am currently reading “Alcohol lied to me” by Crai Beck - I just googled it and a free PDF of the book appeared so I didn’t need to pay for it! Anyway - he says willpower doesn’t work (as does Annie Grace of this naked mind) and to quote him “there is no power in willpower”. Rather it’s as you say, about changing your mind set. I recommend you check out both of these and good luck - you can do this ❤️💪

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BunniesBunniesBunnies · 29/11/2021 19:29

Massive well done @ChampooPapi you have done amazingly👍👍👍

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Breathmiller · 29/11/2021 20:05

Fantastic champoopapi so pleased for you

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Chrispackhamspoodle · 29/11/2021 20:26

Hi-newbie here.Day 33.In the middle of reading The Sober Diaries and before that Annie Grace.Finding The Sober Diaries really relatable and helpful.Have been drinking since I was 15 and now almost 50.Same as all my friends but it just doesn't do me any favours anymore.These 33 days have been fine really but I haven't been out.Feel really anxious about Christmas and I'm away with a friend who is a long term drinking partner this weekend.Putting off texting to tell her ...I think because the wine witch keeps telling me not too in case I change my mind.Trying not to look forwards and take it one day af a time or I feel stressed.Reading the posts on here is really helpful because it reminds me how awful alcohol is and how hard it is to stop.Also having massive sugar cravings...anyone else get sugar hangovers?It's making me feel rubbish.Hoping that will die down soon.

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Newmum738 · 30/11/2021 07:55

Day 3. Still feeling anxiety and paranoia from a binge on Saturday night. Hoping I can remember this when the weekend calls 🙈

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PromisesMeanNothingSue · 30/11/2021 08:42

Morning everyone. Lots of new joiners! Welcome, from another relatively new joiner. Smile I’ve got over my three week slump from last week; in retrospect I can see that the feeling of flatness and exhaustion was another stage of the alcohol withdrawal; my body/brain was trying to get used to not having the artificial highs of dopamine and GABA, followed by the noradrenaline, glutamate and cortisol. My mood picked up towards the end of the week, and I’m feeling much clearer this week.

Several posts mentioning not drinking in pregnancy made me realise that I’d totally forgotten about pregnancy when I said I hadn’t gone more than a month without getting drunk since I was 15. 🤦🏻‍♀️ It just shows that we can (mostly) give up when we really have to.

Having said that… I didn’t stop drinking entirely, even then. Blush Before pregnancy I never drank wine - I was a spirits drinker. I knew I couldn’t do that any more, so I ‘just’ had a glass of wine every so often (to me, that was barely drinking at all! Blush) I never did go back to spirits, really; it was mostly wine from then on.

So, Day 30 for me today. Smile I signed up to the Annie Grace Alcohol Experiment, but didn’t realise I had to activate it until a week or so in, so I’m not on day 30 in that. I’ve also taken my time over watching the videos, as I knew from the second week that this was going to be a much longer term change. I’m on day 17 of the videos, iirc, and I’m finding them incredibly useful actually (I wasn’t entirely sure at the start, tbh, especially after attending a webinar that turned out to be a hard sell for her paid courses); they really prompt me to think about things at a deeper level, to challenge my beliefs around alcohol, and to look on this as freedom from alcohol and a catalyst for change, rather than ‘giving up’ something I want. The app has a very supportive community to it, too, and I intend to keep reading that and re-watching the videos. Realising how much work and insight has gone into the course has changed my thinking about the paid coaching/support courses that the sales pitch never lets up on Wink - I’d recommend that investment for someone in crisis who was really struggling to change their thinking.

For me, I’m still not quite ready for ‘forever’, but I’m already thinking of extending my seven month commitment to a round year, and then I’m thinking ‘well it’s 18 months to my 50th birthday, and that’d be a lovely milestone to be alcohol free…’. Grin

I still have this lingering hope that I’ll eventually be able to have a small glass of wine with a good meal, or a glass of champagne to celebrate, but… BUT… I can see how very easily that could/would slip back into a routine thing, and how smoothly that would turn into manufacturing excuses to ‘deserve’ a drink. Hmm I feel a huge sense of relief, at the moment, that I’ve made the decision and commitment, so I’ve removed all that mental wrangling. It feels very freeing.

It hasn’t all been sunshine and roses; I had a busy and physically demanding weekend doing stuff to the house, and late afternoon on Saturday, when my back was killing me (pain is a HUGE trigger for my drinking), I would have murdered for a glass - well, a bottle, frankly - of wine. I vaped some weed instead - not ideal, but it did the trick, and it’s the first time I’ve wanted to do that this month, whereas I’d do it several times a week when I was drinking. On the plus side, I wouldn’t have even been doing stuff to the house usually - I’ve done more in the four weekends since I stopped drinking than in as many months when I was! I don’t ever want to go back to that hungover, lethargic feeling of flatness, clock watching until 5pm when I can have my 2 hours of happy drunkenness that I’m sacrificing the other 22 hours of the day for!

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Slothkin · 30/11/2021 08:55

Hi folks, newbie here! Anyone for a cuppa? I brought biscuits!

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BunniesBunniesBunnies · 30/11/2021 09:14

Welcome @Slothkin!

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SparklingLime · 30/11/2021 09:48

@Newmum738

Day 3. Still feeling anxiety and paranoia from a binge on Saturday night. Hoping I can remember this when the weekend calls 🙈

Worth taking a high dose B complex, and extra thiamine (want at least 100mg per day) as heavy drinking depletes it.

cks.nice.org.uk/topics/alcohol-problem-drinking/prescribing-information/thiamine/
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