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Manipulative alcoholic father who is alone

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Molly500 · 19/07/2020 09:39

I just need to get some views.

My 'D'f is in his 70's and lives alone. He's an alcoholic and has a very aggressive character. Growing up he was in various fights and spent time in prison for GBH.

He would flit in and out of mine and my brothers life as my parents were not together.

He never had a proper relationship with anyone else that I know of, but my DM has been married to my step dad since I was 3.

My brother and I are now in our 40s and in the last two years our father has reappeared on the scene.

He calls and texts constantly, I mean up to 20 times a day. I block him when I need a break from it and speak to him about once a week because I feel obliged too. I see him about once every 6 months ,partlybecause hes 4 hours away and partly because my DH wont have anything to do with him. We have 2 teenagers he has never met. He fell out with DH before they were born because he threatened him whilst we were at my nans funeral. So its quite a strange relationship for me as I am only willing to give the time I do. My brother lives closer to him and is single and has had our father for Christmas, but he says he only does it because he feels he has to and also tries to keep him at arms length. My father is very demanding and pushy .

In the last few months he's been playing the 'I'm at the end of my life card ' and saying he has something to say to my mum,brother and myself. My mum, having not spoken to him at all for nearly 30 years agreed to speak. My brother took her there (they all live closer to him than me) and he apologised for everything he'd done to her but in a 'it was all so and she's fault'kind of way (he was violent and just crap). My mum is a bit of a people pleaser so then started responding to him. It turns out he has proposed they get back together and has been pulling a number of tricks to try and split my mum and step dad up (happily married for 41 years!) He even told her that he found out my step dad was having an affair which is a total fabrication. I think hes doing all of this to try and push his way into the family. He has no one and admittedly my brother and I have been quite reticent in letting him in our lives. I don't want an aggressive alcoholic around my children so I have limited what I will offer in terms of time, but hes pushing to be in the centre of our family. My brother also only sees him about 2 x year.

This has all come to a head since my mum and step dad confronted him about his lies. They have quite rightly cut him off.

What would you do?I feel split as I dont want him fully immersed in my family life. But I feel obliged to at least be available when absolutely necessary as I know he's alone and I also dont want my brother taking more on. But i cant quite get past his level of manipulation. All his apologies to my brother and I, and then my mum were nothing more than his attempt to oil his way in and he intended to destroy my mums marriage in the process!!. Not that he would have done. Can you ever have a part time relationship with someone like this? He is a total narcissist and I think alcohol plays a huge part. Am I fooling myself and should cut it off?

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Molly500 · 19/07/2020 09:40

Wow. Sorry that was long.

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Fanthorpe · 19/07/2020 09:44

You’re not responsible for him. He’s trying his best to get you to take care of him but he’s a liar and abusive. His main relationship is with alcohol. He’s an adult who’s made his choices.

You sound very kind, but it’s not good for you to be involved with him. Does he engage with any support to stop drinking?

I’m very sorry that your dad wasn’t what you needed or deserved.

Charlieiscool · 19/07/2020 09:47

You have managed this very well up to now and in case anyone had forgotten, he showed you all who he is again. Keep a safe distance and support your brother in prioritising his own needs. There is no point in sacrificing yourself to try to help people like your father. You will never be able to do enough for him and will end up miserable and exhausted. He will always want more.

GreenTulips · 19/07/2020 09:48

I would be the same.

He’s an adult. He made his choices and still makes those same choices.

I wouldn’t worry about it and put it in a box for another 6 months.

You owe him nothing.

Molly500 · 19/07/2020 09:53

Thank you so much. I didnt expect such a quick response. He's been in rehab on a number of times but is in complete denial about his drinking. But he was a nightmare at my brothers house at christmas because my brother tee-total.

I know hes a leech and the most recent situation confirms that.

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Molly500 · 19/07/2020 09:54

Excuse the typos. Confused

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Fanthorpe · 19/07/2020 09:57

I understand that it’s painful and guilt-inducing. You’ve been brought up to feel responsible for making things better, trying to stop the chaos caused by the adults. Of course it’s hard, you just want your dad. Be kind to yourself.

EggBoxes · 19/07/2020 10:01

Do you know it’s ok to have nothing to do with him? No texts, no visits?

DiscBeard · 19/07/2020 10:38

I'd block him on everything.

heatseeker14 · 19/07/2020 12:52

That sounds very tough and mentally draining, OP. If you can’t go no contact, my suggestion would be to keep contact to an absolute minimum. You owe him nothing. Protect what is important to you because in the end any emotional stress on you will impact your family. You deserve to be happy and so does your family.

Molly500 · 19/07/2020 20:07

Thank you all.

No contact may seem the obvious choice, but I just cant do that. It's a bit selfish of me really as I suppose I keep contact to ease my own guilt. But minimal contact it will be.

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Fleetheart · 19/07/2020 20:09

Sounds terrible; I would recommend you could speak to someone at al anon, that may help you to have some support at this difficult time.

Molly500 · 19/07/2020 22:30

I will look them up, thank you.

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AFitOfTheVapours · 19/07/2020 23:15

This sounds so tough @Molly500. For what it’s worth, I agree with everyone else in that you owe him nothing. Just wanted to add to fleetheart’s Alanon suggestion that (if you haven’t already heard of them) Nacoa might also be worth contacting for you and your DB. They exist to help children (inc adult children) of alcoholics.

Molly500 · 20/07/2020 13:43

Thankyou

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