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Trans woman and husband looking into adoption. What to expect?

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ProspectiveAdopter1992 · 17/03/2025 00:14

Hi everybody:)

My husband and I have been married for a few years now and something that we've always both been very clear on with each other since our relationship began is that we both hope to someday have a child and now that we're both in a stable place in our careers, we feel that we're ready to begin making preparations to make our dream a reality.

As you can obviously tell from the title, I'm a trans woman, so having a child biologically isn't an option for us. We briefly considered surrogacy, but I vetoed it as I disagree with the ethics of surrogacy and would also prefer to adopt so that we can provide a home for a child who needs it.

We've looked into the adoption process, and we feel that it's something that we can and want to do in the near future; however, I'm concerned about the potential discrimination that we could face due to my being trans.

I generally don't have too many problems in public as I look and sound like any other woman, and I rarely need to come out, but I imagine that it's something that will need to be addressed at some point during the process. I’ve tried to look online for accounts of trans people who have gone through the adoption process in both the UK and other countries but I haven’t been able to find anything other than people who are at the same stage as my husband and I so I’m just wondering if there’s any trans adopters or LGBT adopters in general on here who could help give me a better picture of what my husband and I should expect as we go on this journey.

OP posts:
Jellycatspyjamas · 21/03/2025 12:43

I think that’s fair enough, most people do just want to get through the assessment and while we try to prepare people and explain that the process of placement can throw up issues that the prospective parent may not be aware of, you really do need to experience it, by which time it’s too late.

ProspectiveAdopter1992 · 23/03/2025 14:07

Namechangetry · 21/03/2025 07:50

This will probably be an unpopular opinion. First things first, I am an adopter.

I would have some therapy and really explore how you will explain your trans identity to a child, and how you will deal with their understanding and questions. It's one thing to 'pass' in public, but you will not be able to hide your sex from your child, and how will you help them to make sense of that in a way that they can understand? You would need a very secure identity yourself as a male who presents as female to do that. I imagine it's a sensitive thing for you, and children, maybe especially adopted children, can really push buttons.

Children in need of adoption have had their whole reality damaged, and their sense of themselves and of others can be more complex than most. IMHO it is not fair to teach a child that people can be born in the wrong body or similar ideas, when the child has struggles in understanding themselves and others already. Care-experienced children were hugely overrepresented amongst the children seen at GIDS for a reason.

I'm not trying to be hurtful to you, I'm trying to say that adopted children have extra vulnerabilities around understanding who they are and who others are and humans interaction in general. And that can be challenging for us as adults with our own vulnerabilities. So for the benefit of everyone involved it'd be good to really think about the possible difficulties.

Having said that, social work as a profession absolutely falls over itself to look progressive and accepting so you may not get asked any hard questions at all and have everyone at pains to show how inclusive and accepting they are; which might be great but might also lead to difficult things being avoided.

Ultimately adoption is about finding the best family for a child, not about providing a child for adults who want one, and so the needs and struggles and vulnerabilities of the child should always be the priority over our stuff as adopters. And we all have stuff, it's just being honest with ourselves about what that is and how we will manage it.

The matter of explaining my transness to our hypothetical child is something that my husband and I have discussed and are continuing to discuss.

I personally don’t believe in the “born in the wrong body” framing as it’s a metaphor that over simplifies being trans and is also primarily aimed at cis people who need a quick explanation so I definitely wouldn’t explain it like that.

Any explanation that my husband and I would give to the child would ultimately be based on their own needs in regards to their background and age with it being stressed that they I’m ready and willing to answer any questions that might have on the topic but also that it’s a private thing for just our family and a few friends to know.

And if our child ever said anything about my gender that was upsetting, I’d just remind that myself that they’re probably just testing boundaries and pushing buttons and don’t mean anything malicious by it.

And I have been to therapy in the past for issues relating to my family and I found the experience very useful so I’d be open to going again to further explore how my experiences could potentially affect my parenting.

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Namechangetry · 23/03/2025 14:27

That's great OP - I also go with 'it's not a secret, but it is private' with my DC. I've one who sees being adopted as something to show off about and another whose worst nightmare is people knowing they're adopted, so it's a phrase I've employed a lot!I imagine your child and other kids will have curiosity and much like with explaining their life story, you'd do it routinely and age appropriately so there are no taboos and no surprises.

They have an uncanny ability to push buttons, and though it's not (usually) malicious it still hurts, especially if you're tired or stressed or depleted, and I personally think you can never have too much good therapy. I hope this thread is useful for you.

ProspectiveAdopter1992 · 23/03/2025 14:46

Namechangetry · 23/03/2025 14:27

That's great OP - I also go with 'it's not a secret, but it is private' with my DC. I've one who sees being adopted as something to show off about and another whose worst nightmare is people knowing they're adopted, so it's a phrase I've employed a lot!I imagine your child and other kids will have curiosity and much like with explaining their life story, you'd do it routinely and age appropriately so there are no taboos and no surprises.

They have an uncanny ability to push buttons, and though it's not (usually) malicious it still hurts, especially if you're tired or stressed or depleted, and I personally think you can never have too much good therapy. I hope this thread is useful for you.

I don’t 100% agree with all of your original statement but I think you make some good points.

If they did try to latch onto me being trans as a way to push buttons, I’d just try my best to positively engage with them to figure out why they’re lashing out and what we could do to make it better and once they’d calmed down, try to have a conversation about why what they said was mean even if they didn’t mean or want to upset me.

And if necessary, I’d have a little cry once I was on my own if it was really bad.

And I completely agree with you on therapy. I had therapy throughout my twenties to help resolve some lingering issues I had from the way my family treated me for being trans and it helped me get to a stage where I was able to start a new relationship with my sister.

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Arran2024 · 23/03/2025 15:31

ProspectiveAdopter1992 · 23/03/2025 14:46

I don’t 100% agree with all of your original statement but I think you make some good points.

If they did try to latch onto me being trans as a way to push buttons, I’d just try my best to positively engage with them to figure out why they’re lashing out and what we could do to make it better and once they’d calmed down, try to have a conversation about why what they said was mean even if they didn’t mean or want to upset me.

And if necessary, I’d have a little cry once I was on my own if it was really bad.

And I completely agree with you on therapy. I had therapy throughout my twenties to help resolve some lingering issues I had from the way my family treated me for being trans and it helped me get to a stage where I was able to start a new relationship with my sister.

Tbh pushing buttons is a very nice way of putting it. Research shows that around one third of adoptions are relatively straightforward, another third are challenging but everyone gets through, and another third are incredibly challenging, with violence, children going back into care etc.

It is really difficult to know up front which category you will fall into. Some people have a disastrous experience even with a new born baby while others tale on older children and do well.

My two were probably in the middle category. But itcwas incredibly tough at times, especially when dealing with schools, other parents.

Between them my girls have sen, epilepsy, genetic deletions, asd, adhd, fabricating illnesses, crazy lying, inability to keep friendships, learning disability, peech and learning disorder, PDA, dysplasia, dyslexia, dyscalculia, sensory problems.....and that's before you even look at identity, birth family, adoption issues.

A lot of these issues are really difficult to treat and you have to be able to cope. Imo adoption is not so much a way to create a family as a way to offer hope and stability to traumatised children who are going to need masses of ongoing support.

"Pushing buttons" sounds so benign - it is actually often deep trauma coming our way.

That's why I'm suggesting not just getting childcare experience with your family but with other disadvantaged children and meet other adoptive families and see if you could cope.

My girls are 25 and 26 now and doing well but it was some journey! I would do it all again but I was completely naive about how it would be. Other parents wouldn't speak to me, a couple shouted down the phone at me....it was so hard. I had to leave work. You do meet amazing people but it is not for everyone.

Jellycatspyjamas · 23/03/2025 16:03

If they did try to latch onto me being trans as a way to push buttons, I’d just try my best to positively engage with them to figure out why they’re lashing out and what we could do to make it better and once they’d calmed down, try to have a conversation about why what they said was mean even if they didn’t mean or want to upset me.

Its funny. I would have said something similar pre-adoption about the more tricky aspects of being a family. It’s a perfectly good, practically textbook response that is balanced and measured. I also think it’s how we would like to respond, all things being equal.

Having lived adoption for some years now, my answer would be different. The way that our emotions, vulnerabilities and weakness combine to utterly undermine our ability to be ever measured and balanced cannot be underestimated. I went through years of therapy to address childhood trauma, and at the time of assessment could hand on heart say it didn’t impact me day by day, and I had well established strategies for those times it did creep in.

Enter two deeply traumatised children and all bets were off. When children have been neglected and abused, they very quickly and instinctively learn your own vulnerabilities because that instinct was needed to help them survive. They don’t so much press your buttons as jump all over them. And when they aren’t pressing your buttons your own experiences come to the fore, either really wanting to give your child a better experience of being parented than you had or, being honest. making you question yourself and wonder if your parents were right.

By way of example, my parents were very “spare the rod, spoil the child”, they were very physically violent to each other and to me and my siblings.

I have never agreed with physical punishment, would never hit my kids but when I was in the weeds dealing with two very challenging children I found myself wondering if my parents weren’t right and whether I was such a difficult child they needed to be violent (which is a complete headfuck). Worse still, I started wondering if my kids just needed “a good hiding”, because I knew how to behave so my parents got it right?

In those moments I was so angry, and hurt, and confused that there was no way I could positively engage with my kids. I was fighting my own survival instincts and trying to connect was impossible. I needed to diffuse things, create safe space between me and them until I was more regulated, sometimes I needed to apologise for my reaction to them.

It was a sign I needed more support, needed to go back into therapy and needed to step back and remember why my kids weee struggling with their behaviour, ie they were behaving “in front of me” but not towards me, it wasn’t personal.

It’s important to have the textbook answer, but it’s also important to know who you really are under stress, or when feeling deeply hurt, or when your own trauma is triggered otherwise you’ll not build in safety valves and will find yourself wondering why you can’t respond in the measured, caring way that you thought you would.

Absolutely nothing will bring up old trauma than your own kids, I know to look for it now especially as my DD reaches an age where I was especially vulnerable.

Now, with years of dealing with my own triggers I’m more likely to say “I don’t know how I’ll deal with X, I hope I can respond with my child’s best interests at heart, I will always avoid acting my own stuff out on them but I might need time and space and support to figure out what to do in this circumstance”.

You can’t draw on experience you don’t have yet, which is why folk are making the suggestions they are, some will be helpful and some not.

Bestfadeplans · 24/03/2025 12:45

Namechangetry · 21/03/2025 07:50

This will probably be an unpopular opinion. First things first, I am an adopter.

I would have some therapy and really explore how you will explain your trans identity to a child, and how you will deal with their understanding and questions. It's one thing to 'pass' in public, but you will not be able to hide your sex from your child, and how will you help them to make sense of that in a way that they can understand? You would need a very secure identity yourself as a male who presents as female to do that. I imagine it's a sensitive thing for you, and children, maybe especially adopted children, can really push buttons.

Children in need of adoption have had their whole reality damaged, and their sense of themselves and of others can be more complex than most. IMHO it is not fair to teach a child that people can be born in the wrong body or similar ideas, when the child has struggles in understanding themselves and others already. Care-experienced children were hugely overrepresented amongst the children seen at GIDS for a reason.

I'm not trying to be hurtful to you, I'm trying to say that adopted children have extra vulnerabilities around understanding who they are and who others are and humans interaction in general. And that can be challenging for us as adults with our own vulnerabilities. So for the benefit of everyone involved it'd be good to really think about the possible difficulties.

Having said that, social work as a profession absolutely falls over itself to look progressive and accepting so you may not get asked any hard questions at all and have everyone at pains to show how inclusive and accepting they are; which might be great but might also lead to difficult things being avoided.

Ultimately adoption is about finding the best family for a child, not about providing a child for adults who want one, and so the needs and struggles and vulnerabilities of the child should always be the priority over our stuff as adopters. And we all have stuff, it's just being honest with ourselves about what that is and how we will manage it.

Lol ignorant and gross comments all round.

They aren't male presenting as female. They are female.

It's completely fair to teach any child, adopted or not that you can be born in the wrong body.

Its not difficult to teach a child, adopted or not that you were born a different sex

Namechangetry · 24/03/2025 14:58

Bestfadeplans · 24/03/2025 12:45

Lol ignorant and gross comments all round.

They aren't male presenting as female. They are female.

It's completely fair to teach any child, adopted or not that you can be born in the wrong body.

Its not difficult to teach a child, adopted or not that you were born a different sex

Maybe try reading what the OP had to say on that before throwing your weight around.

ilovemoney · 25/03/2025 13:26

Hi OP. You may be questioned on your physical health if you have had surgery or are on hormones as this will affect you long term. I have no idea about your physical health but if you went the full mile in terms of hormones and surgery this will be explored in terms of your longevity and physical wellness to parent a young child. You also mention a difficult childhood and while this won't exclude you they will question you a lot on this so be prepared for some pretty tough analysis of this. I know people turned down for adoption due to their past traumas for example.
My personal experience having been through the process twice, and some may disagree with me, is that social workers talk the talk on diversity but in reality we were surprised how much they liked us for our '1950's' characteristics, for example i was a stay at home mum, owned a house, traditional well off suburb, husband was a high earner in a traditional role, we are not diverse at all and i think they liked that a lot. Sorry but that was our experience.

Anonanon10001 · 25/03/2025 14:18

I think so much depends on the individual area and also the LA.

We adopted as a same sex couple. We were chosen for our under-3 years, allegedly no special needs son out of 42 couples nationwide who expressed interest despite us being lesbians, not in a civil partnership and living in a flat in a rough borough in inner city London.

I wasn't planning on being stay at home but did become such for five years due to son's emerging additional needs and inability to cope with school.

No idea why SW chose us really. I have often wondered

Anonanon10001 · 25/03/2025 14:22

Should have added - be careful which adoption agency you choose as some more open to diversity than others. We went with Coram as our LA wasn't then assessing any white adopters. Lots of lesbian and gay adopters were with Coram

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