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Do children get Pupil Premium Plus funding even after the Adoption Order has been granted

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SirSpamalot · 15/07/2015 10:44

i.e. they are no longer legally classed as 'Looked After Children'?

Started to look into this - found this info which is out of my area, but presumably applies to all.

Pupil Premium Plus

Thought it might be useful for some people. Certainly going to use it to kick my DC's school up the preverbial.... But it doesn't answer my above question.

If the answer is 'yes they do', how long do they continue to get it for (currently)?

Thanks- as always.

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SirSpamalot · 16/07/2015 16:08

Thanks tethersend

So to be clear.... Now we have the AO for our DC...

They still get pupil premium but there is no statutory requirement for them to tell me what it's spent on (only Ofsted), and there is no statutory requirement for them to have a formal plan in place hat is shared with me?

So, basically, if I want to find out what the PP is being spent on, or disagree with the way it's being spent, it's up to the school? There's no formal route except via Ofsted?

I don't predict the school will be difficult, it's just that they've just had an ofsted, next one not for 3 years and I want to be sure of where I stand before I request a meeting with the SENCO. She seems good, but not that knowledgable with LAC and ex LAC

Thanks so much.

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tethersend · 16/07/2015 17:38

"They still get pupil premium but there is no statutory requirement for them to tell me what it's spent on (only Ofsted), and there is no statutory requirement for them to have a formal plan in place hat is shared with me?"

No statutory requirement, no. But good practice is to work in partnership with parents, and the evidence must show that the money has been used to raise that particular pupil's attainment. Most schools are willing to work with parents and, to be honest, you are likely to have far greater knowledge of how your child's early experiences could affect them than the school.

Start positive but firm, would be my advice. Key phrases such as As you are aware, I'm sure you know this already, and plenty of This is why I chose the school The excellent support you already provide etc.

Remember to keep them focused on using the PP to help your child achieve their potential- sometimes schools struggle to know what to do with a child for whom there are no obvious 'problems', and miss the fact that although they are comfortably achieving Bs in all subjects, they should be achieving A*s.

Using the money for staff training is a very effective use IME, and tends to be viewed in a positive light by schools who are sometimes reluctant to engage.

It may be a good idea to ask if the school's Designated Teacher for LAC can attend the meeting along with the SENCo, assuming that they are not the same person, as they should be able to offer a slightly different perspective.

Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss any specific issues you anticipate.

fasparent · 16/07/2015 23:15

Yes tethersend Windsor and Maidenhead are doing this , they are also getting other LA's on board , too see how its progressing, Google Gareth Marr Adoption train or Adoption Social, Department of Education and Children's Minister Edward Timpson are also watching , the progress on how they use PPP, IEP's, and Teacher Training and support offered too EX LAC Children.

tethersend · 17/07/2015 10:44

W&M recently held a seminar for Virtual Heads to speak about what they were doing WRT adopted children- the problem is that most virtual schools have a larger cohort of LAC than W&M, and don't have capacity to work with adopted children in the same way; there is quite a lot of concern about what this will look like in practice.

Having said that, I think the remit of Virtual Heads will almost definitely extend to cover adopted children very shortly, not least due to schools' lack of accountability as discussed above, so there will have to be some very creative use of resources.

fasparent · 17/07/2015 19:33

Department of Education go start consultations regard's the issues today.

tethersend · 17/07/2015 20:10

That's very interesting, fasparent... Do you have a link? Or know who is being consulted?

fasparent · 17/07/2015 21:00

Think it is more to do with SGO's., due too increase of 3000+ not receiving support., after care see "Children and young people now Daily bulleting. No doubt there will be changes all round though. can Google it

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