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Forced adoption and my son. A birth mothers prospective.

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BlueAndPinkPolkadots · 10/11/2014 21:41

First of all, hello! I'm new to the forum and have found myself here after going through a very traumatic experience with AS.

My son was born on in 2013 and taken from my care at three days old. I never supported the adoption and cry for him every day, the whole experience has virtually destroyed me and has damaged my trust in our government and social services beyond belief.

The reason my son was taken from me was because his father had a history of being violent to his ex girlfriend. They had a daughter together who they had in their care for two years before she was removed and placed for Adoption due to witnessing domestic violence between the two. When I met this man who went on to be my sons father, he told me that he had a daughter who was removed due to her mother's lack of parenting skills 'after they split up' and he did not tell me about the violence or social services concerns about him.

At the point of falling pregnant he became increasingly controlling and I saw a different side to him, there were multiple occasions I had to call the police due to his "kicking off" and although he hadn't yet been violent he was definitely abusive. I decided that I would look into making arrangements to leave him safely.

During a midwife appointment early on I told her how I felt about the way the relationship had been, on that basis she referred me to social services who then came and visited me, I was 13 week's pregnant at this point.

When the social worker came to visit me she told me the real reasons his daughter had been taken into care, I was shocked, upset and angry having been told a completely fabricated version in the past. She asked me whether he had been violent to me, to which I replied no but he has been abusive in other ways, that was the truth at that point. I told her straight away that I don't condone any of what she told me and am prepared to move out of the town ASAP with their permission and help (I have very little family support and none of the family I do have lived in the local area). I was scared out of my wits by this point thinking these people were going to take my baby. I'd heard so many horror stories about social services in my local area alone to conclude that the chance of my baby being took was in fact real so I vowed to work with them whole heartedly and do everything in my power to keep my child in my care. I did everything asked of me including a drugs test which came back fine, permission to access my medical records and they requested I attending a parenting group to address my "lack of experience" with children and babies having been a first time Mum. I had to find a parenting course by myself unaided by them and despite the only one I was able to find being tailored to older children - I attended regardless desperate to prove my commitment.

The social worker I had didn't want me to leave town and made that very clear, she said not to worry because she can see many positives in my favour and that "she wouldn't have thought" my baby would be removed because "my case didn't warrant it" (sic). She then told me that she had already began her assessment and by me moving at that point it would "cause disruption to the case" (sic) - I swear those were her words.

When my child's father got wind of me leaving him that is when the violence began. I moved into a different house in the same area at 5 months pregnant and he wouldn't leave me alone, he attacked me multiple times and despite me banning him from coming to my home he did all of the time.

I didn't dare report him to the police because of how social services were now using those past police logs against me. The handful of times I had called the police on him in the past before falling pregnant were now being used as 'serious concerns' and so I was terrified to seek help from the police out of fear of social services using the new logs against me so I kept quiet, much to my regret of course but I felt incredibly backed into a corner by these people who were blatantly unsupportive and were writing untrue information about me.

They were writing in their reports that upon becoming involved i was 'minimizing' the violence by telling them in one meeting that he hadn't physically attacked me, when in fact at that point he hadn't - I had been completely honest with them and they were putting on paper that I was a liar and a deceiver, a perpetrator of domestic abuse as much as he was and saying they are concerned with the lack of support I had in the area. The latter was extremely contradictory as I had virtually BEGGED for permission to go and have my 'assessment' in the same city that my family members lived in.

The twisting my words and falsifying information continued throughout my pregnancy. At one point the social worker wrote in her report that I too had been a perpetrator of domestic abuse which was fundamentally untrue, there had never been any accusations of abuse or assault made against me and it took me going to the police personally to have this clarified to have it taken out of the report.

I felt bullied by them, I couldn't believe the way they were portraying me and as they are portrayed as an agency who's purpose is to Support families they had shown me no support at all, in fact quite the opposite.

They arranged a PLO meeting when I was 8 months pregnant and then held it without me present. My then-representative who turned out to be notorious for working with social services told me to take a seat in the waiting area of the town hall where it was being held and said she'd come and get me when it was time. She didn't. She told me after I'd been sat there over an hour that she took the initiative to attend the meeting on my behalf because the local authority were going to take my baby at birth and wouldn't be changing their minds therefore she didn't want me getting upset in the meeting. How utterly disgusting is that? I was literally tricked into not attending a meeting when it's purpose was to determine what will happen to my son once born.

I went into Labour two weeks early on a Saturday racked with stress. Not even twenty minutes after my son was born whilst I was still sat in my own blood and mucus a social worker who I'd never met before came into my room and told me she wanted me to sign a section 20 enabling them to take him into care, I refused. How intrusive and humiliating it was for me to have such a thing thrust into my face whilst trying to saver the little time I had with my darling boy who I'd already fallen in love with.

I called my legal aid solicitor, the one who stopped me attending the PLO and she came to the hospital on the Monday when the local authority were due to go to court to obtain the order. I had lost a lot of blood and was unfit for discharge so she asked me what I wanted her to say on my behalf because she would be attending in my interests. I told her I oppose the order and want my baby with me, I also said I'm prepared to agree to any and all conditions imposed by SS which would make that possible. She told me that she would definitely project my willingness to work with social services but warned me that by outright opposing the order would make it seem like I am not acknowledging their concerns and that I need to address them. realize how ridiculous that sounds now to agree to her saying this but being young, distressed and desperate for help I believed her and believed she had my best interests at heart so I eventually (after much persuasion on her part) agreed to allow her to say that I "do not agree but do not oppose" because I had been brainwashed into believing that it was my only hope of winning my baby back.

My son was appointed a foster carer who fortunately was great, she got to know me personally and strongly disagreed with social services projection of me and their intentions for my baby. Her views were ignored and when she approached the social worker and asked them to consider letting me stay with her and my baby in her house which would provide the safe environment that they claimed we needed in order to be together, they outright refused. They were refusing to explore the possibility whatsoever and the only reasoning they gave for this was that it was "against procedure".

Unfortunately for me, the child's guardian appointed to represent my son in court was the same one who represented my exs other daughter so she was instantly swaying toward adoption. Despite my case being a whole other case and me and my son being completely different individuals. She based her desire to have him adopted wholly on the historical information and concerns aired between my ex, his ex and their daughter. She too was adverse to the possibility of me parenting my son with SS intervention, anywhere under any circumstances because apparently the risks posed by father were too high and I'm unable to protect my son from significant harm should anything happen as I don't have adequate support.

None of the 'many positives' highlighted by the assessing SW at the beginning were mentioned now, instead I was being portrayed as somebody who simply cannot protect their child and doesn't deserve them. I had begged SS so many times for a support structure enabling me to look after my child somewhere his father couldn't find us but instead I was virtually forced to remain in the same town as him so they could conduct their 'assessment' whilst having had my requests for help in relocating rejected time and time again.

Meanwhile whilst all this was going on I was getting trouble from my sons father. He wanted back in and couldn't (or wouldn't) understand how damaging his selfish interference was to my sons case so made my life a misery at every opportunity. He had now physically assaulted me several times when told he cannot come back and I knew I needed to turn to the police for my own safety, I reported him for the multiple assaults and fled to a refuge in the area which was for women escaping domestic abuse.

I realized that I couldn't allow it to continue and that by keeping quiet out of the fear for SS could end up having my seriously hurt so I told the police everything and just why I hadn't reported him for the attacks earlier. Surprisingly the police officer told me that it wasn't the first time they'd heard of a story like mine with SS and they could completely see why I would be so scared about reporting it.

When SS got wind of the police logs and me being in a refuge they reacted exactly how I suspected they would, instead of recognizing that I now had a safe environment and support (with many mothers and children) they updated their report for the upcoming 'resolutions hearing' saying how chaotic my life clearly was and that it's in my sons best interest to be adopted.

Two days before the resolutions hearing my sons father and his mother who's a diagnosed NPD, sent an 'anonymous' letter to the sitting judge in a last ditch attempt to stick the knife in for what he later admitted was spite for me ending the relationship. In the letter were several partially nude photos of myself that only he (my ex) had access to and a note claiming that I am overly promiscuous (which I am not) and under no circumstances should I get my son back. Something acknowledged by all parties was how irrelevant this childish defamation of my character this was to the case but even so it was drawn reference to by SS to 'evidence' the fact that there is 'too much instability and conflict' for it to be a possibility to return my son.

e was approved for Adoption and 10 weeks later placed with his adopters.

The judge overseeing the case was seemingly sympathetic, he said it brought him no pleasure concluding with adoption and myself and everybody who knows me cannot believe that he did.

Looking back over all the documents filed by social services it's apparent that adoption was a preference to them and not a last option. They never tried to support me nor keep me with my son and did everything possible to have him adopted as a first resort. They lied, twisted and manipulated the situation to achieve their desired outcome and it is an opinion shared by all whom know me that they preyed on me because I was an easy target. I was a workable case and it was them who refused to work with me, now when I beg to meet with the people who have my son under controlled circumstances I am told that this cannot be. I know that this is because they don't want me to tell them the truth about my sons case and it's misconduct in case it affects their willingness to adopt him. I don't pose any threat and that is evident, but they are telling me that they refuse to so much as pass on a letter or permit a telephone call between me and the adopters making it absolutely impossible to gain peace of mind let alone closure.

I am not angry with my sons adopters, I know for a fact that they have been lied to. nor do I think that adoptive parents are bad people because contrary to my own case I have much respect for what you ladies and gents do, but it scares me how (some) social services departments can manipulate, abuse and betray vulnerable young ladies who can and want to keep their babies.

I'll never forget my son, and due to the nature of his removal I fear I'll never find peace. Despite posing no risk to my son I am robbed of the right to watch him grow up, but what's worse than that is the fact that he has been robbed of a biological mother who can in fact care for and protect him. The pain is unreal, believe me. I feel like I have been used as an unwilling surrogate, I have seen posts on here proclaiming how parents had received umpteen chances at getting it right before their child was adopted - that's no been the case with me and my baby, I promise you.

Had I been given a chance to take him Home and had I messed it up for myself I would not be on here pouring my heart out to a board of strangers. I was never given a chance and he was ripped from my life straight away, if they would have given me a chance I could have done it but instead my son is about to spend Christmas with complete strangers.

Please, please, please prospective adopters make sure you meet with the birth family to avoid taking on a baby like my son. I know there are many children who are better off being adopted because their parents are drug addicts, criminals etc but my son isn't one of those babies and I'm not one of those neglectful parents. Although social services do get things right they do get things wrong, I urge you all to look at forcedadoption.com before agreeing to take on a child who has never been abused by their parents. Please.

Thank you for reading

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JoffreyBaratheon · 15/11/2014 13:40

BlueandPink that is the most moving and powerful thing I have read for a long time.

I know of kids left with alcoholic/druggie parents, the SS know all about, pay a few cursory visits and leave them in situ. And when I was a teacher, I taught a couple of adopted/fostered older kids, in my time - the social workers would never even bother to turn up to meetings at the school. Their lack of care was astounding to other professionals, let me tell you. I once had a little girl aged 7 who had just witnessed her mother stab her father to death right in front of her. Little girl was put with a foster family who grew to love and adore her. I spent a lot of time working with foster parents, trying between us to give this little girl some stability in her life. And one day, her social worker did deign to turn up, and I asked her if M, the child, would be kept with these foster parents as they told me they wanted to keep her and she was very happy with them. SW told me (with so much glee it was actually chilling. I have never forgotten this) that the foster parents were "the wrong ethnicity" (ie: child's parents from Trinidad, foster parents came from Jamaica) and if they got the sniff of a Trinidadian foster family, she'd be taken off them however she felt about it.

Another child was troubled in ways I can't begin to describe - his mum dumped him after school one day at the SS office. The child was acting up and clearly disturbed. Next day, SWs dumped him back on the mum who didn't even want him. This boy was so disturbed, he went on to abuse his own sister so the damage spread. All down to social services refusing to take him into care.

You sound cogent and intelligent. Do all you can to make yourself a life that is everything you and your son deserve. As others say - when he grows up he will find you. Let him find someone amazing, when he does.

trafficjam · 15/11/2014 14:39

I hope my child's teachers have more discretion than to use there private lives as examples on an open forum to justify their personal dislike of social workers.

trafficjam · 15/11/2014 14:41

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Lilka · 15/11/2014 14:50

greengrow There are many failures and things that went terribly wrong in my adult DD1's childhood, but one thing she'd tell you went right, was that she was placed for adoption and then I adopted her. She finds it contemptible that anyone would have wanted to deny her a real mother, a real family, the opportunity to legally cut ties with her birth parents, and everything that it means to have a proper family. She still exchanges christmas cards with her last foster mum, but lovely woman that she is, foster care is not adoption. Where's the freedom to not have social workers checking on you when you hate it? Where's that fierce unconditional throw-myself-in-front-of-a-bullet-for-you parental love which is the kind of love that all children deserve as a human right and which was utterly lacking in her life before adoption? Where's the security of true permanence?

No one thinks adoption is right for all children, but thinking that it's not right for any of them represents a critical failure to actually think about the children, what they need and their best interests. Either that or it represents not giving a shit about children like my DD1, but I choose to doubt that most people are that cruel, rather they simply don't have the experience of what adoption means to children and adults like her. If adoption is right for them, then it's right to have it as a legal option, because anything else is failing these children.

MerryInthechelseahotel · 15/11/2014 16:46

Greengrow your post is actually very ignorant. I can't even be bothered to give any more of a reply than that.

JoffreyBaratheon · 15/11/2014 20:02

I had no dislike (or any feelings either way) for social workers til I worked with them. This was many years ago, and in an LEA that was fraught with all kinds of problems. I'd like to think the social workers are more professional these days and that things have moved on. Which is why OP's story shocked me as I had kind of assumed social workers were, these days, more professional and caring than the frankly chilling encounters I had with them, years ago, suggested.

FWIW, I never met a teacher who had worked with them who had a good word to say about them.

I am all for children being fostered or adopted, when necessary. I think there are many kids left with people who are alcoholics, addicts etc who would benefit from being got out of those situations. So again, this is why this made no sense to me.

trafficjam · 15/11/2014 20:51

The issue I have with the OP is that it's only their side - you might find that the judge who decided this case had access to very different information.

Also, it's not unheard of for people with an agenda about "forced adoption" to come onto the boards - the reference to the website certainly rings alarm bells for me, as does much of the tone and some of the phrases used.

gymmommy · 15/11/2014 20:55

Unfortunately the SWs involved in this case cannot legally comment or tell the other side of the story. We have had many social workers, some fantastic at their jobs and others who weren't good. The same as I'm not always great at my job although I try to be and my DC has some great teachers and some that aren't very good. Many may say my DC is a "forced adoption" and I read many many forced adoption sites and opinions and still thought adoption was correct in our case with many similarities to the OP's story and having met BPs prior to order. I think of my DC BPs everyday and my DC knows her story even though still very young. Blueandpink thank you for posting your story.

duskycitystreet · 15/11/2014 22:42

I am shocked at greengrows post and do wonder what sort of person would be either so uncaring of others' feelings or so unkind as to post it on the adoption board.

By the way I am a teacher and the only encounter with adoption that I know of is a delightful little girl who was keen to tell me her mum and dad adopted her when she was 3 (I asked her where her name came from and she said she wasn't sure.) They were her words - her mum and dad. And they are. Why would anyone think there's something wrong with that? Confused

Barbadosgirl · 15/11/2014 23:22

I am afraid, Dusky, that this is quite common. There are a lot of us here who have pressed the forced adoption brigade (and I am referring to Greengrows) as to why they seem to be completely disinterested in the feelings or rights of the children in question and just seem to be obsessed with the feelings and rights of the birth family but they never answer. I am not sure why GG doesn't think our children deserve forever mummies and daddies that can look after them. I do know that when the forced adoption brigade's champion MP took the UK to the ECHR in an adoption case he was roundly criticised for (amongst other things) completely failing to address or consider the rights and feelings of the children at the centre of the proceedings.

kilmuir · 15/11/2014 23:30

Maybe for the best

Kewcumber · 15/11/2014 23:34

I am shocked at greengrows post

Oh hang around the adoption board for a while dusky, it crops up with regular monotony. Individually we either get riled by it and throw our toys out of the pram or try to cogently argue why what nonsense they are suggesting this time just doesn't work.

Sometimes we talk over their heads as if they aren't there because we had this argument sooooo many times.

We are all parents on here - we can all empathise with the pain that must accompany your child being removed for any reason (death or social workers alike). Whether you played some part in the removal or not, I don't imagine that the pain is any less if you accept that you made poor choices or if you don't and your case was a miscarriage of justice. I empathise equally with anyone who has lost their child (though I sometimes struggle with those who have actively put their child through hell - but then I am only human).

People like Greengrow are neither here nor there. Its easy to pronounce what you think should happen when there is little danger of it happening to your child or of you taking on a child in this position.

It's a bit like me making a pronouncement about how and when I think elective caesarians should happen. It's kind of interesting in an abstract way for me to think it through particularly if I like the sound of my own voice a little too much but I can't seriously believe that anyone in their right mind is going to listen to me - who has never been pregnant and is never going to be and doesn't work in the field either directly or indirectly.

All I know is that if something happened to me and I was unable to parent DS I couldn't imagine a worse torture for him than living in some twilight zone of never quite belonging to a real family. Because if you think that all foster carers are like Granny Murray and that you get placed in a nice home at birth and stay there until 18, and you get treated as the most important thing in their world in every foster home then think again.

I can't be bothered to educate anyone again about the nightmare that permanent foster care can be. Do your own homework *Greengrow" if you want an informed opinion (rather than just a random sloshing around in your head of your own voice) - I'd suggest you start with someone Irish and talk to them about their system where domestic adoption is virtually unheard of and ask them what this Utopian vision is like in practice.

Of course Greengrow and others are entitled to voice their opinion. Thankfully we don't have to respect it.

Viviennemary · 15/11/2014 23:35

It's really sad for you. But I'm sure SW on the whole want to do what in their opinion is best for the child in the long term. I don't know enough about this to say whether it's right or wrong in any particular case but the whle thing is very sad indeed. But I don't know how they can do this with the Human Rights Act in place.

Kewcumber · 15/11/2014 23:43

But I don't know how they can do this with the Human Rights Act in place.

I don't understand what you mean by this? Confused Do you mean a parents human rights to keep their child?

Viviennemary · 15/11/2014 23:44

Yes that's what I meant. A person's right to a family life.

SheffieldWondered · 15/11/2014 23:45

Greengrow you really do say the most unpleasant things. I can't work out if you purposely like to upset people or if you are unable to understand how cutting some of your posts are.

JoffreyBaratheon · 15/11/2014 23:46

My ex was heavily involved in the dodgy Fathers 4 Justice world, and they also have an agenda around this forced adoption/ adoption targets thing. Which is why I'd normally be sceptical. But the OP here, even I see no reason to disbelieve.

Velvet1973 · 15/11/2014 23:49

Human rights aren't just for parents, what about the human rights of these children? The parents are the adults in the situation and therefore should be the ones making the right choices to protect their children, if that's not the case then it's the duty of us as a society to ensure we protect not just the human rights of these children but very often their actual lives.

InfinitySeven · 15/11/2014 23:55

Vivienne What about the child's human rights? When you are born, you form a separate legal entity. Does the OP's right to a family life override their child's right to be safe and happy?

As others have said, I'm sure that other people in this case would have varying opinions. Unfortunately, it is human nature to consciously or subconsciously brush over your own wrong doings. For example, it would hugely change people's opinions of the above if the OP added in that she'd been warned to leave her boyfriend a few times, and offered support, and had failed. Or that she'd told social workers that she wouldn't cease contact between her partner and her baby.

At the end of the day, social services have to assess whether the birth family are safe for the baby. Your neck is essentially on the line to say whether that child is safe, and whether their parents are capable of taking care of them. If the answer is no, it is better for the child to be placed with people who are capable of taking care of them, regardless of the human rights of the parents. There is no balance that keeps everyone happy - it's either the baby or the parents that lose out, and someone has to.

Kewcumber · 15/11/2014 23:59

Sheffield you haven't considered the possibility that its neither but that she/he's so enamoured with the cleverness of their own opinion that they are compelled to share the nuggets of nonsense with a wider audience.

And yes Vivienne person includes child. And there is a whole convention on the rights of a child which applies in the vast majority of countries across the world. That every child has the right to a family life. And if you as a parent can't provide that then your "rights" don't trump those of your child (thankfully) those there are those in the forced adoption movement who think it should.

I have even read here from a leading light in the forced adoption movement that if someone has seriously neglected and/or abused their older children that the younger children should not be removed until they too are actually abused. It doesn't matter has happened to the older children or how consistently they've abused them for or how many children they abused. Apparently they believe that a child should stay with their birth parents until they have suffered significant harm.

Maybe if you are in the lucky position of being unaware of some of the terrible shit these older children have had to deal with you might feel quite happy at the idea of leaving other children in situ to protect the rights of the parents.

Barbadosgirl · 16/11/2014 00:01

Exactly, Velvet. I have no idea why it us that these children do not have a right to a family life, but people who cannot look after their children apparently have some inherent right to parent them despite the pain caused.

Joffrey, I don't think anyone has said they don't believe the OP, I think some people have gently suggested the sws and judges may have seen a different side. As Kew put it so marvellously, the focus is really her pain, not who is to blame. Most of the frustrations are at Greengrow's unsubstantiated and seemingly uneducated comment.

Viviennemary · 16/11/2014 00:02

I can't argue with your post Infinity. But it seems sad that the OP thinks she could have given her baby a good life if she had been given a chance and now she won't ever see him again.

BastardGoDarkly · 16/11/2014 00:05

Oh love, I'm so so sorry for your situation, no system is full proof, and it seems ours has let you down.

I hope with all my heart you can move forward and grow, and be happy x

klog · 16/11/2014 00:09

That's awful. You poor thing. I hope that you're free from your baby's father. He sounds utterly vile.

Kewcumber · 16/11/2014 00:10

Yes it is sad *Vivienne.

Whether it was the best decision for her child or a terrible miscarrriage, it is indeed terribly sad.