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What is an honours degree?

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Ppgsaefdsad · 09/07/2025 15:22

I've been really confused as to what an honours degree is. What does it actually mean when it says "BSc Hons"?

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burnoutbabe · 09/07/2025 18:29

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 09/07/2025 15:32

At a basic level, you get a degree if you study 300 “points”. Honours comes from studying (and passing) 360.

I have a degree with honours that I did over2 years ago-270 points.
no dissertation done (nor for masters either)

Sasssquatch · 09/07/2025 18:34

So it seems no one actually knows?

ExpertArchFormat · 09/07/2025 18:37

It is completely untrue that honours courses require a dissertation. It may be true in some subjects, but that's not where the difference lies.

University degrees are graded as

1st Class Honours - top standard ie like A-star at A-Level, or a 9 at GCSE

2:1 Honours - like an A or high B at A-Level or 7/8 at GCSE

2:2 Honours - Like a low B or C at A-Level or a 6 at GCSE

Third Class Honours - Like a D at A-Level

Ordinary Degree, which is a basic pass, like an E at A-Level or a grade 5 at GCSE. Anything less is a fail.

Like at GCSE where in Maths you can take a Higher paper and score anything from 5 to 9, or you can take a more basic paper and can score 1-5 but cannot access grades 6-9 even if you score 100%, there are some university courses that are equivalent to the basic option, you can pass or fail but you cannot get honours. An ordinary degree from a course without honours content is worth the same as an ordinary degree where the student took the honours exams but didn't score high enough for the honours grade, exactly like how if someone has a grade 5 Maths GCSE it's worth the same whether they got it by getting a top grade on the basic paper or a low grade on the Higher paper.

Including a dissertation module is one option that some universities may use as part of their honours content.

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AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 09/07/2025 18:38

titchy · 09/07/2025 18:27

50%. And a 2:2 becomes a 2:1 at 60% and a 1st at 70%. With some slight flex around the borderline.

So 40-55% wasn’t that far out then……..

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 09/07/2025 18:40

Sasssquatch · 09/07/2025 18:34

So it seems no one actually knows?

As I said a long way back, 300 points studied = ordinary degree, 360 = Honours.

titchy · 09/07/2025 18:41

Sasssquatch · 09/07/2025 18:34

So it seems no one actually knows?

I know. I have posted. As have several others An honours degree has 360 credits and an overall pass mark (40% for most, higher for the OU which has a different marking system). An honours degree has classifications. An ordinary degree doesn’t.

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 09/07/2025 18:41

burnoutbabe · 09/07/2025 18:29

I have a degree with honours that I did over2 years ago-270 points.
no dissertation done (nor for masters either)

2 years? Is that a typo?

titchy · 09/07/2025 18:41

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 09/07/2025 18:38

So 40-55% wasn’t that far out then……..

Well 15% and one and a half classifications out!

Frankinator · 09/07/2025 18:47

Love the people who come on here with their own idea of what honours might mean and present it as fact. Why do people do that? Just because for your own degree it meant doing a dissertation, studying for 4 years etc etc doesn’t mean it’s true for everyone. Personally I’d go with the poster who actually would know the rules, ie @ParmaVioletTea.

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 09/07/2025 18:48

titchy · 09/07/2025 18:41

Well 15% and one and a half classifications out!

5% out in relation to a pass (third) and there was a hint that there were higher classifications.

Slightyamusedandsilly · 09/07/2025 18:49

I had a friend that didn't bother with the dissertation and didn't get her Hons. No employer has ever noticed.

Still happy I did mine though. It was good training for later, higher qualifications.

titchy · 09/07/2025 18:52

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 09/07/2025 18:48

5% out in relation to a pass (third) and there was a hint that there were higher classifications.

A pass for a 3rd class honours degree is 40%. That’s a 15% difference to the 55% quoted.

burnoutbabe · 09/07/2025 18:53

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 09/07/2025 18:41

2 years? Is that a typo?

No

law senior status degrees are 2 years generally m-aimed at graduates (but not always, then called accelerated degrees) but still an undergraduate course.

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 09/07/2025 18:54

titchy · 09/07/2025 18:52

A pass for a 3rd class honours degree is 40%. That’s a 15% difference to the 55% quoted.

I took it as meaning that if you get 40-55% it’s a third.

You confirmed it is 40-50%. That’s a 5% difference.

AntisocialMedium · 09/07/2025 18:55

BSc(Hons). No dissertation.

Some courses aren't Honours degree courses.

Tarkan · 09/07/2025 19:11

TwoFastHorses · 09/07/2025 18:18

I have a BSc (Hons) in Social Sciences. Done through OU 20+ years ago (so may have changed since).

Ordinary degree had to complete -
1 x foundation course
3 x Level 2 courses
2 x Level 3 courses

Honours degree had to complete -
1 x foundation course
2 x Level 2 courses
3 x Level 3 courses

I needed 120 points at each of the three levels for mine (levels 1, 2 and 3). Graduated last year (although I started it in 2008 when my youngest was a baby). BA Hons for me which was 2 x 60pt courses at each level. DH is currently studying for a BSc Hons in Cyber Security and it’s 4 x 30pt courses at each level for him.

Not sure of the criteria there for one without Honours at all though.

gonewesterly · 09/07/2025 19:14

I have an honours degree but have never really thought about that before. But yep I did sit exams and did a very lengthy dissertation. You learn something new every day. 😂

ParmaVioletTea · 09/07/2025 19:41

titchy · 09/07/2025 17:46

I know - given the education levels of MNers and their DCs I’m kinda stunned.

I'm not. I doubt many of my current students look at their degree regulations ...

Neither am I surprised by MN posters not listening to actual experts.

ParmaVioletTea · 09/07/2025 19:43

Sasssquatch · 09/07/2025 18:34

So it seems no one actually knows?

Er no, @titchy and I know. And you would too, if you read the QAA document I linked to.

ParmaVioletTea · 09/07/2025 19:46

AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti · 09/07/2025 18:38

So 40-55% wasn’t that far out then……..

Except it's very far out because the classification boundaries are the classification boundaries.

MissyPants · 09/07/2025 19:54

An additional 60 credits. So more knowledge/studying.

burnoutbabe · 09/07/2025 20:07

Just checked the qaa and 360 credits is the typical minimum but is not a strict minimum as long as the learning outcomes are achieved (hence 2 year degrees)

Ppgsaefdsad · 09/07/2025 20:16

Ah okay. So it can be an honours degree even if "Hons" isn't in the name?

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titchy · 09/07/2025 20:33

Ppgsaefdsad · 09/07/2025 20:16

Ah okay. So it can be an honours degree even if "Hons" isn't in the name?

Where are you seeing the name? If it’s honours it will be on the degree certificate along with the classification. If it’s on the website eg UCL https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/undergraduate/degrees/mathematics-and-physics-bsc then they’ve just saved themselves a couple of characters - they are honours degrees.

Mathematics and Physics BSc

Physics and mathematics are inextricably linked. It is not really possible to understand the basic concepts of physics such as elementary particle theory without a strong grounding in both pure and applied mathematics. This BSc combines the study of ma...

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/undergraduate/degrees/mathematics-and-physics-bsc

titchy · 09/07/2025 20:35

burnoutbabe · 09/07/2025 20:07

Just checked the qaa and 360 credits is the typical minimum but is not a strict minimum as long as the learning outcomes are achieved (hence 2 year degrees)

Two year accelerated degrees are still 360 credits - typically students take the extra 60 over each summer and study Sep to Sep for two years rather than the Sep to June pattern of 3 year degrees.

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