Trumplethinskin wants his Situation Room photo because it most definitely rained on his parade - Trump thread #145

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All he’s done is lie since he came down that escalator.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5344386-no-more-musk-melania-mia-and-tacos-for-tea-the-idiocracy-beds-down-trump-thread-144

The problem is now, if they were successful why will another raid be needed ?

Night vision if you eat your 🍊

Shit, shit, shit. Trump is coming ... we love him in Scotland.

Trump is expected to visit his new second golf course in Aberdeenshire when it opens this summer

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/25/uk-host-donald-trump-full-state-visit-this-year

Must he?

Why are they all kow-towing to this arsehole?

Expediency. He's still #47 and we are tied to the US in many ways. He's also dumb and unstable but with lots of power, so it's appeasement all the way. It doesn't make me happy either.

Leader of the free world indeed. The only thing he's freeing is $$$$ into his own and family's pockets.

The usual guidance when dealing with someone with dementia is not to correct them.

That made me laugh out loud for the first time on what has been a miserable day for me personally, politics aside. Thank you . I wish someone had told me that when I was dealing with my demented mother long distance, she’d have died a whole lot happier if I hadn’t argued with her every step of the way, not having been made aware until very late in the day that she had been diagnosed with vascular dementia.

Was he just taking credit for the pilots that flew those missions at NATO? He was certainly full of shit that kept spewing from his mouth.

Anyone would think he single handedly did everything himself and it wasn't a God awful failure because potus has a big mouth.

But...that's not what the White House said....

How do they get away with this?

I KNOW @cakeorwine, I know - that is why I despair.

This is what Fox News said

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-hegseth-seethe-fake-news-media-doubting-us-strikes-obliterated-iranian-nuclear-sites-scum

Oh, FFS. It shouldn’t be allowed, he ought to be told, I don’t care how many kid gloves need to be worn whilst handling him, they should not be allowed to get away with their blatant lies. (Can you tell I’m a bit cross about this?)

I guess it's unpatriotic to suggest that a mission might not have been as successful as first thought and the only possible response is to say that it was a complete success.

In other news, I just watched 1984 last night.

Is it unpatriotic to ask Kathleen Leavitt that question?

It is to ask Kirsty Noem—you’ll get thrown to the ground and handcuffed, Senator or not.

Scottish moles, do your finest!

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:aunpu65mdrhwfie7ynymlzeh/post/3lsghvg7gsc2z?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fiframe.nbcnews.com%252FgOjHg7RJ

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-response-intelligence-assessment-iran-strikes-takes-incoherent-rcna214937

Pressed on the efficacy of the mission and the accuracy of the intelligence, Trump said, “The intelligence was very inconclusive. The intelligence says we don’t know. It could have been very severe. That’s what the intelligence says. So I guess that’s correct. But I think we can take the ‘we don’t know.’ It was very severe. It was obliteration.”

The first part of his answer was at odds with the second. The intelligence can’t be conclusive and inconclusive at the same time. If Trump wants to say that it’s too early to have a firm understanding of the strikes’ success, fine. But when he simultaneously declares that the U.S. doesn’t know for sure whether Iran’s nuclear sites were obliterated, and that Iran’s nuclear sites were obliterated, his assertions become plainly unbelievable.

Soon after, at the same event, Trump said that U.S. intelligence officials “really don’t know” the full extent of what happened to the Iranian targets, before adding moments later, “I believe it was total obliteration.”
Or put another way, according to the American president, U.S. intelligence officials don’t know, but he does know.

Who needs intelligence agencies...or do they need to tell him what he wants to hear?

Dog killer Kristi Noem 🐶 🐕 🐶 🐕 🔫☠️💀☠️⚰️😐

Poor little Cricket, may she rest in peace.

Trump picking a 22 y/o with NO EXPERIENCE to head up Homeland Security is proof of his dementia and everyone around him is following the advice not to disagree with dementia sufferers.

Let's be honest, Trump doesn't read, so he was told about the intelligence analysis at some point, but then didn't retain the details, hence the conclusive/inconclusive nonsense hedge later on.

Oh come on….that’s a bit harsh! NO EXPERIENCE? On the news, I saw that his CV had his summer lawn mowing gig on it—he’s an ENTREPRENEUR! Give the boy some credit, eh?

This is the problem isn’t it?

The initial intelligence report was early and likely to be low confidence. The problem is the idiot who ignored it and held press conferences/tweeted about the place being obliterated. Which in one way has worked because with an audience that has a concentration span of a news cycle everyone heard that and moved on from bombing Iran to the peace treaty.

Bur it has also left them with the issue of the report being uncovered which they are fighting with a truckload of fake news, leaked, inconclusive, it was definitely obliterated. Which will work for MAGA but is likely to raise questions in any half thinking other observers.

Just saying "How do you know, how confident are you that it was destroyed and what gives you that level of confidence" - and answering with "We dropped bombs on it, of course it's destroyed" - that's not good enough. If they were doing a military operation with troops on the ground, they would need much more than "Gut instinct" to say what had happened.