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Would you hire someone without a front tooth?

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SparklyNewMe · 30/01/2025 08:05

I am looking to fill a customer facing, well paid position for a large organisation.
I have interviewed a candidate with suitable experience, I can see him fitting in well with the team but 2 front teeth are missing. My DH is missing a front tooth for the last 2 months, it’s taking NHS that long and it’s been fitted today at last. So, I know it’s not a red flag in itself and can be circumstances. Maybe he cannot afford and does not plan to fix. But I can’t ask him outright about this, I can’t discriminate on this basis and also I can’t have someone represent our organisation like this. It maybe my own biases and it’s perfectly acceptable and I am precious?

Any advice on how to go about it will be greatly appreciated.

OP posts:
MissDoubleU · 30/01/2025 10:44

biscuitsandbooks · 30/01/2025 10:38

@ItGhoul I guess I don't agree that it is a completely false comparison.

Yes, it's not directly comparable but people judge on appearance all the time, whether that's dating, at work or when it comes to socialising.

I am not saying it's okay to refuse to hire someone based on what you do or don't find attractive, but to say it doesn't play a role in people's success is just disingenuous imo.

Yes, but someone’s attractiveness level being relevant to their success as a wider societal observation is not entirely relevant here. It should not be this way and we should strive to make decisions professionally to not reflect and support this.

heyhopotato · 30/01/2025 10:44

I wouldn't for a customer facing role, especially if it involves selling anything. The best salespeople are above average attractive for a reason.

The vast majority of people can afford a private dentist but like saying money is the reason to not go, simply because they don't want to. Most pay for hairdressers for example, which is often a comparable price and completely optional. Same goes for many other things. People choose to spend their money how they like, that's fine, but for most saying they can't afford it is just wrong, what they mean is they don't prioritise it and don't want to go.

rainbowunicorn · 30/01/2025 10:45

OP what do you mean red flag, circumstances. You aren't coming across well.

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Starlight7080 · 30/01/2025 10:46

Yes.

rainbowunicorn · 30/01/2025 10:47

Chiseltip · 30/01/2025 08:24

It would.put me off TBH. If he was the first contact I had with your organisation I would think WTF.

Looks DO matter, despite what people say. I does it affect his speech?

You can easily tell if missing teeth are due to neglect or accident/procedure. Which one is this?

If neglect, then it sends a bad signal.

If it's from another cause, that's different, but still doesn't look great I think.

In many other countries, the US, most of Europe, this would make you literally unemployable in any customer facing role.

No, you can't tell if neglect. There are numerous reasons for someone to be in this position.

Horatioed · 30/01/2025 10:52

I wouldn’t dream of hiring him because the lack of awareness that is indicated by the fact that he didn’t supply you with information about whether he was getting his teeth fixed suggests that he is clueless.

biscuitsandbooks · 30/01/2025 11:05

@MissDoubleU I'm not sure it is redundant to have a discussion about the fact appearance matters when it comes to work, just as it matters when it comes to dating, but there we go.

I accept it's not entirely relevant to the OP but I think it's an interesting discussion nonetheless.

MissDoubleU · 30/01/2025 11:08

Horatioed · 30/01/2025 10:52

I wouldn’t dream of hiring him because the lack of awareness that is indicated by the fact that he didn’t supply you with information about whether he was getting his teeth fixed suggests that he is clueless.

Why is he obligated to disclose private information like this!? He might not know when he is able to get it “fixed” or perhaps he isn’t medically able to do anything at this stage.

FigAndOlive · 30/01/2025 11:21

So much hypocrisy from previous posters. Of course 99% of people would feel uncomfortable hiring someone for a customer facing role if they had front teeth missing. Yes, it’s unfortunate and unfair as it can be 100% not the person’s fault and private dentists are super expensive and the state the NHS is in bla bla bla but both things can co-exist surely? I wouldn’t hire a male nanny for my kids even if he was the absolute best candidate and if I had a company I wouldn’t hire someone without teeth for
a customer facing role, I believe people should have 100% of freedom when chosing an employee for their companies, I don’t even understand how you can prove some sort of discrimination between candidates as there are so many variables and biases when you’re chosing someone for a
vacancy, otherwise we would have an AI computer sorting through the CVs and that’s it.

bigkahunaburger · 30/01/2025 11:29

heyhopotato · 30/01/2025 10:44

I wouldn't for a customer facing role, especially if it involves selling anything. The best salespeople are above average attractive for a reason.

The vast majority of people can afford a private dentist but like saying money is the reason to not go, simply because they don't want to. Most pay for hairdressers for example, which is often a comparable price and completely optional. Same goes for many other things. People choose to spend their money how they like, that's fine, but for most saying they can't afford it is just wrong, what they mean is they don't prioritise it and don't want to go.

Edited

Dont be ridiculous. As I said, my bottom two teeth had to be removed due to infection. I am considered above average attractiveness (not a flex) and Im a professional woman. It has cost me 5.5k to get it sorted and a YEAR!!!! I couldnt wear the NHS denture (that is all they will do - bridge wasnt possible for me) because it was so painful and the gums needed to heal. It is absolutely not anything like the same price as the hairdressers.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 30/01/2025 11:30

biscuitsandbooks · 30/01/2025 10:38

@ItGhoul I guess I don't agree that it is a completely false comparison.

Yes, it's not directly comparable but people judge on appearance all the time, whether that's dating, at work or when it comes to socialising.

I am not saying it's okay to refuse to hire someone based on what you do or don't find attractive, but to say it doesn't play a role in people's success is just disingenuous imo.

I very much doubt there's a contractual obligation to fuck either the OP or the customers.

He'll be fine.

Ilovemyshed · 30/01/2025 11:35

@FigAndOlive what utter rubbish. I couldn't cate a less if the person serving me is missing a tooth so long as they are polite and efficient. I might even have a chat to them!

A male nanny? Why ever not.

InALonelyWorld · 30/01/2025 11:39

Some of the responses on here are really disheartening and completely unfair. I get to some, physical appearances matter but it is really awful to dismiss and discriminate against someone who has a visual discrepancy. You dont know his circumstances, nor is it anyones business but does he not deserve to live a normal life because of that? Are you saying the only jobs he should be allowed to get are ones where he's hidden away from the public? There's a reason why there are laws to protect people from discrimination.

A few years ago I was assaulted very badly by an ex partner which left a very obvious 7cm scar down the side of my face. The battles I had to go through to not only heal but to feel comfortable in my own skin were huge. I now work in a very public facing role (retail) and not once has my scar put anyone off shopping there or engaging in conversation. No one even mentions it, staff or otherwise. To be told I don't fit a job role simply because my face would put off customers and its best look for a role where i hide away in the background, like some shameful object would erase way more of my character than my ex ever did.

To me skill and personality override looks. MN is full of people bashing those on benefits, but can you really blame some of those people when apparently their face doesn't fit to even be employed?!

Drachuughtty · 30/01/2025 11:44

Blimey, my hairdresser costs £20, that wouldn't even get me five minutes with the dentist.
My town has ZERO NHS dentists (not even for children), the one I go to is the cheapest in town and an appointment with the hygienist costs £90, or with the dentist its £50 before you've even had anything done.

Twaddlepip · 30/01/2025 11:47

I really wouldn’t want someone with missing teeth customer-facing. Rightly or wrongly, it doesn’t look good and has connotations of poor health and hygiene or poor behaviour, such as fighting.

Behind the scenes I wouldn’t care so much, if they showed aptitude for the role.

towelsandsheets · 30/01/2025 11:53

Good grief - the judgement and assumptions

Surely it's what you and say do not what you look like that should be important

DuchessDandelion · 30/01/2025 11:56

Twaddlepip · 30/01/2025 11:47

I really wouldn’t want someone with missing teeth customer-facing. Rightly or wrongly, it doesn’t look good and has connotations of poor health and hygiene or poor behaviour, such as fighting.

Behind the scenes I wouldn’t care so much, if they showed aptitude for the role.

I'm sure anyone you employ is grateful you condescend to consider their aptitude at some point

usernother · 30/01/2025 12:10

I wouldn't employ them for a customer facing role.

Twaddlepip · 30/01/2025 12:40

DuchessDandelion · 30/01/2025 11:56

I'm sure anyone you employ is grateful you condescend to consider their aptitude at some point

I would imagine so.

PhilosophicalCheeseSandwich · 30/01/2025 12:46

We've all been served by people with obvious physical imperfections. It's no reflection on them as a person or the business they're representing.

CreationNat1on · 30/01/2025 12:54

I went to a hardware store last year, and there was a female middle aged staff member with a full, spiky, goatee beard. Let's celebrate diversity in every form.

Hire him. Let's normalise diversity.

BobbyBiscuits · 30/01/2025 13:03

Customer facing, I'd probably see it as a bit of a negative. But if he was having a great manner and friendly personality then it would matter less.

I have a couple older male friends with front teeth missing. One was a teacher in a private school until recently when he retired. His employer never mentioned the missing teeth. Though obviously he had teeth when he started the job.

If he was by far the strongest candidate in other ways I probably would overlook it. Presumably he can get a denture at some point?

It's not fair really to judge people on appearance. But I do know it can happen.

DoYouReally · 30/01/2025 13:09

Do his role involve biting anything or anyone?!

If not, it's irrelevant.

Cheeserage · 30/01/2025 13:19

To the people asking would you not hire him if he had scarring or facial disfigurements, from someone currently looking for jobs and that has those due to an awful health situation and didn’t have them before, there are definitely people who wouldnt hire. Some people are massive twats about personal appearance, I’m considering moving to a bell tower, quasi moto style so people don’t have to look at me in horror.

i would hire him, people come in all shapes and disfigurements and what not for a whole variety of issues, the people who he will be selling too won’t be picture perfect people, unless you’re hiring for a modelling agency.

Hoppinggreen · 30/01/2025 13:24

I would say if he was otherwise clean and tidy then it might not be an issue BUT if its part of an overall scruffy appearance then I probably wouldn't hire him.
It may be unfair but the face of a company has to be of a certain minimum standard, not especialy good looking but definitely tidy and obviously missing teeth like that are not.
Also, his speech must be affected, does he need to be on the phone a lot or verbally interact with people in any way?