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DRY JANUARY 2025! Join us for a healthier start to the year! All welcome 🥤☕️🧋

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HPLikecraft · 28/12/2024 18:08

It’s that time of year again!
If you need a detox, to lose weight, to be healthier, to undo some seasonal overindulgence, to sleep better, to look better, to have healthier skin, to save money, boost liver function, improve your memory, or to decrease your likelihood of dying earlier of various nasty illnesses (sorry for the sudden hard ball!) then you’ve come to the right place!

The MN DJ2025 Chat thread is for anyone who wants to reset their relationship with alcohol; whether you’re a weekend tippler or a problem heavier drinker.
This is a friendly, non-judgmental thread where we support and encourage each other, exchange ideas and information, share alcohol-free drinks recommendations etc.

Hopefully we’ll have some fun along the way. Please hop aboard the good ship DJ 2025, everyone welcome!

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Castlerigg · 05/01/2025 09:42

I'm with you @SwiftyFifty . Absolutely rubbish sleep, which feels like a bit of an insult tbh. I normally sleep so well! And last night was my last opportunity for a good solid sleep before starting back to work. I'm really annoyed about it! So I'm not noticing any benefit from giving up booze, because I'm so bloody tired!

Donnadellaforesta · 05/01/2025 10:13

Morning everyone. I'm pleased that I managed to get through Saturday night without having a drink. I just wish I was sleeping better. When I do sleep, I'm having some VERY weird dreams. Still, I've managed to tick off four days on the Try Dry app. Only 27 more to go!

Hope everyone has a good day today.

newme2025 · 05/01/2025 10:28

Weighed myself this morning and haven’t lost any of my Christmas weight! Despite reducing my calories hugely by not drinking. I’ve not been snacking either. Could be because it’s my TOM though.

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

thisoldcity · 05/01/2025 10:53

I think I'm sleeping a bit better now. After alcohol I would often get to sleep okay but then wake in the night with thoughts going around and around my head and sometimes I'd be awake for more than an hour in the night. Now I seem to be able to get back to sleep okay. Hope it continues like that.

Well done everyone else and once we are through the first week it will get easier!

Melodyfair · 05/01/2025 11:03

Just ignore this advice if it’s not wanted or not for you, it’s not meant to be inflammatory, just I have the experience of quitting a few years back for health reasons, these points may or may not help.

You won’t see the actual benefits of quitting alcohol for well over a month. I’ve noticed many annoyed that their skin hasn’t suddenly improved, their depression or fog hasn’t lifted or their sleep is still terrible or worse. If you want these improvements a month probably won’t do it, the changes happen longer term, but they do happen.

With low/no alcohol drinks, stop thinking of them as a replacement. You can’t drink them like you did alcoholic drinks because basically you are not getting the same reward which is the buzz, drunkenness, the bit that’s really pleasurable to many. They are best for one off drinks when your in the mood, end of day or if your sitting socialising, they can’t be binged as you just need the toilet a lot.

If your just clambering for that date at the end of the month that you will be able to drink again and just torturing yourself and merely existing and suffering dry January until that drink then just stop. You don’t have to do this to prove a point, you need to say to yourself that yes il have a drink again one day, but not necessarily at the end of the month, but some point, if your desperate to get to February to drink again you have a problem.

Dont do it because you need a ‘reset’ of your drinking habits, you know it will end up with the same volume of alcohol consumption again, so you need to look at the bigger picture. A reset should be an overall evaluation of your drinking habits, not denial for a month then back to square one, even if that’s a build up back to square one.

Alcohol is not your friend, all its effects are because it’s poisoning your body each time you drink it. Whether it’s blamed on menopause, age or any other of life’s changes you’re not finding hangovers harder for any other reason than you are poisoning yourself. If you react to that statement in a defensive way, then think why.

Alcohol is here to stay, we know that, I may even let it back into my life one day, though no plans to yet, but you have to be in control of it, not it if you. If alcohol is just at your February finishing line, waiting with a full glass for you and all your doing is desperately running towards it, then stop and start running a different route, one where there is no finishing line, but you decide when and in what circumstances you’d like a drink.

Dry January is a bit of a fad, like dieting, as soon as you deny yourself you set up for failure, of course continue, but the changes need to go beyond a one month stint, think about why you feel the need to do this.

Also good luck, the changes from not drinking are amazing honestly.

Majorityofthree23 · 05/01/2025 11:04

Long long dog walks in the rain much much easier with no hangover/general fuzziness!

OrsolaRosso · 05/01/2025 11:05

Thank you @Melodyfair, a really thoughtful post!

I have been feeling a bit uneasy about all the percentage posts, and think that I may come off the thread before the end of the month, as I don't actually want to restart the drinking in February, or beyond.

MillyGoat · 05/01/2025 11:24

Melodyfair · 05/01/2025 11:03

Just ignore this advice if it’s not wanted or not for you, it’s not meant to be inflammatory, just I have the experience of quitting a few years back for health reasons, these points may or may not help.

You won’t see the actual benefits of quitting alcohol for well over a month. I’ve noticed many annoyed that their skin hasn’t suddenly improved, their depression or fog hasn’t lifted or their sleep is still terrible or worse. If you want these improvements a month probably won’t do it, the changes happen longer term, but they do happen.

With low/no alcohol drinks, stop thinking of them as a replacement. You can’t drink them like you did alcoholic drinks because basically you are not getting the same reward which is the buzz, drunkenness, the bit that’s really pleasurable to many. They are best for one off drinks when your in the mood, end of day or if your sitting socialising, they can’t be binged as you just need the toilet a lot.

If your just clambering for that date at the end of the month that you will be able to drink again and just torturing yourself and merely existing and suffering dry January until that drink then just stop. You don’t have to do this to prove a point, you need to say to yourself that yes il have a drink again one day, but not necessarily at the end of the month, but some point, if your desperate to get to February to drink again you have a problem.

Dont do it because you need a ‘reset’ of your drinking habits, you know it will end up with the same volume of alcohol consumption again, so you need to look at the bigger picture. A reset should be an overall evaluation of your drinking habits, not denial for a month then back to square one, even if that’s a build up back to square one.

Alcohol is not your friend, all its effects are because it’s poisoning your body each time you drink it. Whether it’s blamed on menopause, age or any other of life’s changes you’re not finding hangovers harder for any other reason than you are poisoning yourself. If you react to that statement in a defensive way, then think why.

Alcohol is here to stay, we know that, I may even let it back into my life one day, though no plans to yet, but you have to be in control of it, not it if you. If alcohol is just at your February finishing line, waiting with a full glass for you and all your doing is desperately running towards it, then stop and start running a different route, one where there is no finishing line, but you decide when and in what circumstances you’d like a drink.

Dry January is a bit of a fad, like dieting, as soon as you deny yourself you set up for failure, of course continue, but the changes need to go beyond a one month stint, think about why you feel the need to do this.

Also good luck, the changes from not drinking are amazing honestly.

@Melodyfair I think a lot of what you say is very relevant, especially around quick v long term benefits. However, I don’t want to ignore it as I think it’s very one-sided and worthy of a more holistic view.

As someone who’s obviously done really well and worked hard to reset your long term relationship with alcohol though I think that you’re forgetting how hard but important it can be to START the process. DJ offers an important platform for people who otherwise wouldn’t know where to start… or might not feel able to without a wider support group / it being normalised.

Yes, over 75% of people return to their previous drinking habits.

But that means as many as 25% do not, which is fantastic and something to be celebrated.

Without having the numbers to hand, I’d suggest a good share of those would not have made any changes without DJ, and even those who tried but reverted will have benefitted.

In short, for all you say about there being nothing good about alcohol, I’d also argue there’s is not one single bad thing about doing DJ.

Melodyfair · 05/01/2025 11:35

MillyGoat · 05/01/2025 11:24

@Melodyfair I think a lot of what you say is very relevant, especially around quick v long term benefits. However, I don’t want to ignore it as I think it’s very one-sided and worthy of a more holistic view.

As someone who’s obviously done really well and worked hard to reset your long term relationship with alcohol though I think that you’re forgetting how hard but important it can be to START the process. DJ offers an important platform for people who otherwise wouldn’t know where to start… or might not feel able to without a wider support group / it being normalised.

Yes, over 75% of people return to their previous drinking habits.

But that means as many as 25% do not, which is fantastic and something to be celebrated.

Without having the numbers to hand, I’d suggest a good share of those would not have made any changes without DJ, and even those who tried but reverted will have benefitted.

In short, for all you say about there being nothing good about alcohol, I’d also argue there’s is not one single bad thing about doing DJ.

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Just ignore this advice if it’s not wanted or not for you, it’s not meant to be inflammatory, just I have the experience of quitting a few years back for health reasons, these points may or may not help.

MillyGoat · 05/01/2025 11:40

Melodyfair · 05/01/2025 11:35

Just ignore this advice if it’s not wanted or not for you, it’s not meant to be inflammatory, just I have the experience of quitting a few years back for health reasons, these points may or may not help.

That was my point though, I don’t think it’s helpful to say something one-sided and tell people to ignore it if they don’t agree.

It’s really important that debate on a topic like this should be balanced, which is also why your points are very important, but should be put in context.

It would be a bit like me giving advice to people who are trying to give up smoking as I gave up years ago, I have honestly forgotten what it is like both as a process, a battle and an experience.

Again we know what you’re saying is right, but it reminds me of the adage of don’t let perfect be the enemy of good!

Melodyfair · 05/01/2025 11:42

MillyGoat · 05/01/2025 11:40

That was my point though, I don’t think it’s helpful to say something one-sided and tell people to ignore it if they don’t agree.

It’s really important that debate on a topic like this should be balanced, which is also why your points are very important, but should be put in context.

It would be a bit like me giving advice to people who are trying to give up smoking as I gave up years ago, I have honestly forgotten what it is like both as a process, a battle and an experience.

Again we know what you’re saying is right, but it reminds me of the adage of don’t let perfect be the enemy of good!

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Just ignore this advice if it’s not wanted or not for you, it’s not meant to be inflammatory, just I have the experience of quitting a few years back for health reasons, these points may or may not help.

AlertCat · 05/01/2025 12:18

For anyone struggling with sleep, if it’s an option to listen to something in bed, I highly recommend yoga nidra. There are lots of free ones on Insight Timer and the website Yoga Nidra Network, you might need to try a few teachers because some voices or methods won’t suit you but if you can find one you like it’s great. Search for ‘yoga nidra for sleep’ because the classic ones will guide you out of the practice; the ones for sleep will guide you in and leave you there.

Donnadellaforesta · 05/01/2025 14:00

@AlertCat Thanks for that suggestion - it sounds really helpful. I will give it a try tonight.

Addictforanex · 05/01/2025 14:06

@MillyGoat fully agree.

Please don’t let superior PP kill the thread. DJ is nothing but helpful and positive for me- “fad”or not. I won’t be letting anyone piss on my chips.

MenoMamma · 05/01/2025 14:11

For me it's the "ritual" of having a glass of wine at the end of the day. Tip on what i can drink as an alternative or something else to get through this period would be appreciated.

Nothungrycat · 05/01/2025 14:41

@MenoMamma I think you need to change the ritual! I always get to the end of Friday with a sigh of relief, and sit down with a hefty gin and tonic which marks the end of the week and the start of the weekend. This Friday I finished work, and went to curl up on the sofa with a book I was trying to read and haven't quite got round to. I spent a good half hour reading and it very much had the same effect - it relaxed me and got my head out of work.

Bookaholic73 · 05/01/2025 14:55

I’ve started sleeping better, thank god!

I now understand why I’ve been struggling so much, it’s my TOTM. I always crave sugar around that time, so it makes sense I’d be craving wine.

I jumped on the scales this morning and have lost 4lbs 😮 Wow! That’s all of my Xmas weight. But it’s not all down to the lack of alcohol, I’ve also been eliminating evening snacking. It’s clearly working for me so far.

I’m feeling a lot more tired than normal, maybe it’s the lack of sugar in the wine? I’m not sure.

madson · 05/01/2025 15:07

First night for me last night and my whoop recorded a 50% increase in my REM and a solid 7.5 compared to my usual 5hrs!

Like previously reported my dreams last night were very vivid but quite fun

madson · 05/01/2025 15:12

@Melodyfair

Thank you, a lot of that really resonated with me. As I said yesterday I'm planning on stopping for a while with no end point for now. I had done dry October and whilst I saw lots of benefits by second week in November I was back to the nightly 2/3 glasses of wine. Shit sleep, bloated face etc. My life in the past 5 years have been extremely difficult and slowly alcohol became my way of escapism.

SereneCapybara · 05/01/2025 15:50

@Melodyfair This isn't a dig at your post but a polite disagreement with it. Grin

There is medical evidence that stopping drinking alcohol for a whole month helps the liver fully recover from any overload that drinking has placed on it. This might not be true of the livers of serious alcoholics, but it is true for habitual social drinkers who have a glass or two most nights. So it really is worth doing dry jan once a year, if that is manageable.

Ideally, I would do Dry Jan, followed by Lent, followed by Sober October, to try and extend the periods that are alcohol free. But Dry Jan is easiest as DH joins me, and he doesn't for the others. I only managed Sober October once whereas I've done Dry Jan with him and this support thread four years in a row now. Something is better than nothing.

SereneCapybara · 05/01/2025 15:53

Can anyone give me any advice on what to do with the sugar cravings? Every year they kick in. I don't usually crave sugar but during Dry Jan I eat way more sugar - on Friday I ate an entire bar of nougat and I have been working through the Christmas cake.

Any tips on how to avoid replacing a glass of wine with a family bag of wine gums? Grin

Bookaholic73 · 05/01/2025 15:54

I’m secretly hoping that DJ leads to a dry year. But saying that out loud, or even admitting it, sounds very overwhelming.

For me, focusing on just 1 day at a time is what’s working.

SereneCapybara · 05/01/2025 15:58

MenoMamma · 05/01/2025 14:11

For me it's the "ritual" of having a glass of wine at the end of the day. Tip on what i can drink as an alternative or something else to get through this period would be appreciated.

I find mixing a drink that is a bit ritualistic in its prep helps - the chink of ice in a tall glass with cloudy apple juice, a squeeze of fresh ginger and a sprig of mint, topped with sparkling water, or a tonic water with ice, lime, cucumber and mint, or a Virgin Mary. You get all the sensory kicks from making it and looking forward to it, and it tastes good. But it doesn't dull your senses.

If you drink beer, non alcoholic beer is brilliant. I find it relaxes me as a placebo effect as it tastes to similar to the real thing. Alcohol free Guinness is also weirdly nice. (If you like Guinness.)

Bookaholic73 · 05/01/2025 16:02

SereneCapybara · 05/01/2025 15:53

Can anyone give me any advice on what to do with the sugar cravings? Every year they kick in. I don't usually crave sugar but during Dry Jan I eat way more sugar - on Friday I ate an entire bar of nougat and I have been working through the Christmas cake.

Any tips on how to avoid replacing a glass of wine with a family bag of wine gums? Grin

This is what I’m doing, although it might not work for you.
I’m treating those cravings the same way that I’m treating the alcohol cravings. I know why I’m craving it, I also know that I want to take better care of my health.

I try and distract myself, or eat something like fruit in the same way we’re trying different AF drinks when it comes to alcohol.
It works around 90% of the time so far..but I’m no expert as it’s only been a few weeks 😂

AlertCat · 05/01/2025 16:44

I’m feeling a lot more tired than normal, maybe it’s the lack of sugar in the wine? I’m not sure.

I realised a few years ago that my December fatigue isn’t just the result of the autumn term being so full-on and long. It’s a “wintering” response to the limited daylight. It’s usually from about mid November to the beginning of Feb, but longer if Feb is a dreary month. I find if I can be a bit gentler and allow myself to rest more that all helps.

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