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Named daughter Saoirse - Seer- sha

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Kira22 · 04/10/2024 17:13

Wrote post earlier but had spelling errors! I put cha instead of sha. Many of you pointed this (quite rightly out) as being different sounds- I'd realised as soon as I wrote it I had got S and C muddled (I am dyslexic) but wasn't in time enough to edit. MNHQ kindly took original post down. Just spent awhile going through it and somehow lost entire original post, DOH!

In short, daughter is called Saoirse - named after the girl in the film Song of the Sea www.imdb.com/title/tt1865505/ We fell in love with the name, we pronounce it Seer-sha - the Irish people in the film also say it this way.

I know the actress, Saoirse Ronan (who I actually don't know at all/never seen her films/just get informed alot about her when I say my daughters name!) pronounces her name SUR-sha. She says herself Seer-sha is also another, very common way. Different accents, regions and all that jazz.

An older couple today were basically telling me I was saying my own daughters name wrong today and that they had Irish in their family and it is Sur- sha. Even when I said yes my dad's side are Irish (not that is blooming matters) they wouldn't have it - the woman even said how are you spelling it so I spelt 'Saoirse' and she said 'when you said her name (Seer-sha) I wouldn't have known her name was Saoirse unless you had spelt it for me because it is pronounced 'Sur-sha'

Am just amazed sometimes people ask her name I say it is 'Seer- sha' and they say 'Ohhh, SUR- sha' with huge emphasis on Sur. When someone tells me their name/ their childs name I make a huge effort to say it how they say it, because, well, that is their name!

I wasn't going to repost but many of you kindly had taken time to write replies before, so felt I should

Song of the Sea (2014) ⭐ 8.0 | Animation, Adventure, Drama

1h 33m | PG

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1865505/

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Longma · 04/10/2024 21:33

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Nannyoggapple · 04/10/2024 21:35

In my opinion, i think some of the irish names that have three consecutive vowels, can look very clunky.

Anyway to get back to the OPs post, people are always going to mispronounce it, if you don't live in Ireland.

So it may be best - to just not care what they think about the pronunciation

Mynameistallullah · 04/10/2024 21:35

Nannyoggapple · 04/10/2024 21:30

I don't think it's a lovely name personally.

But each to their own.

Yeah...you've said that repeatedly despite op saying that her dd is called that already and there being someone on this thread called Saoirse. Jesus christ 😂

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about this subject:

Mynameistallullah · 04/10/2024 21:36

Nannyoggapple · 04/10/2024 21:29

Not every irish family wants to name their child "freedom".

I've only ever met one Saoirse in Ireland myself.

Who said every irish family....oh never mind. There's something up with you

OchonAgusOchonOh · 04/10/2024 21:36

SershaAdele · 04/10/2024 20:43

Just to go back over this, I have only heard Saoirse Ronan pronounce it as Sairsher or Seersher but I too have gotten Sursher from people who have watched a video of her talking and said they learnt it from an interview of hers….

I respond to all to be honest 🤷🏻‍♀️

She doesn't pronounce it with an R at the end of it. No Irish person would.

AgileGreenSeal · 04/10/2024 21:38

OchonAgusOchonOh · 04/10/2024 21:36

She doesn't pronounce it with an R at the end of it. No Irish person would.

yes, definitely an ‘ah’ sound at the end.
Never, ever a ‘er’ sound.

1983Louise · 04/10/2024 21:42

Perhaps you should have called her Duckie..........

Nannyoggapple · 04/10/2024 21:42

Mynameistallullah · 04/10/2024 21:35

Yeah...you've said that repeatedly despite op saying that her dd is called that already and there being someone on this thread called Saoirse. Jesus christ 😂

So what?

Are you that fragile? You'll never get 100 percent of people anywhere saying "oh yes that's a lovely name".

Thats not how real life works.

Look at the baby names forum on here.

BarbaraHoward · 04/10/2024 21:53

Nannyoggapple · 04/10/2024 21:42

So what?

Are you that fragile? You'll never get 100 percent of people anywhere saying "oh yes that's a lovely name".

Thats not how real life works.

Look at the baby names forum on here.

Edited

If only anyone had asked if people like the name. Hmm

JaneJeffer · 04/10/2024 21:56
free freedom GIF

Your pronunciation is perfect

gano · 04/10/2024 22:12

I'm not Irish, but I've known four people with the name Saoirse. And they all pronounced it seer-sha. The people you met were very rude, and wrong.

cailingaelach · 04/10/2024 22:13

Irish speaker here too, you are correct Seer-sha is how it’s always pronounced where I’m from.

emmetgirl · 04/10/2024 22:40

It's a beautiful name.
Both my parents were Irish so I expect I'm biased.

SershaAdele · 04/10/2024 22:43

OchonAgusOchonOh · 04/10/2024 21:36

She doesn't pronounce it with an R at the end of it. No Irish person would.

Well what does that make me then 🤨

sha/ shar is same difference, especially when you are asking English people to say an Irish name, I would know

BarbaraHoward · 04/10/2024 22:46

SershaAdele · 04/10/2024 22:43

Well what does that make me then 🤨

sha/ shar is same difference, especially when you are asking English people to say an Irish name, I would know

They're very different in Ireland though as we have rhotic accents.

Enko · 04/10/2024 22:48

Saoirse is a gorgeous name. You shoild watch Brooklyn with Saoirse Ronan in the lead as its amazing..

I also have a dd with an Irish name and (shock horror we are not even Irish) I've learned to just respond. Well this is how we pronounce it so please stick with that
When people correct me. I know we say it right as I have plenty of Irish friends that have agreed w me.

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 04/10/2024 22:48

A girl at DD’s school in called Saoirse and pronounces it Sirsha. Tbh my DD is called Sofia. We pronounce it Ssfeeya, dsil and dmil So-feeya and everyone else different ways. I wanted it to be Zofia but I thought it would be too much.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 04/10/2024 22:53

SershaAdele · 04/10/2024 22:43

Well what does that make me then 🤨

sha/ shar is same difference, especially when you are asking English people to say an Irish name, I would know

I don't know what nationality you are but I have never heard an Irish person pronounce a non existant r at the end of a word. What part of ireland are you from that you do?

Sha and shar are pronounced completely differently in every Irish accent I'm familiar with.

independencefreedom · 04/10/2024 23:10

Kira22 · 04/10/2024 17:13

Wrote post earlier but had spelling errors! I put cha instead of sha. Many of you pointed this (quite rightly out) as being different sounds- I'd realised as soon as I wrote it I had got S and C muddled (I am dyslexic) but wasn't in time enough to edit. MNHQ kindly took original post down. Just spent awhile going through it and somehow lost entire original post, DOH!

In short, daughter is called Saoirse - named after the girl in the film Song of the Sea www.imdb.com/title/tt1865505/ We fell in love with the name, we pronounce it Seer-sha - the Irish people in the film also say it this way.

I know the actress, Saoirse Ronan (who I actually don't know at all/never seen her films/just get informed alot about her when I say my daughters name!) pronounces her name SUR-sha. She says herself Seer-sha is also another, very common way. Different accents, regions and all that jazz.

An older couple today were basically telling me I was saying my own daughters name wrong today and that they had Irish in their family and it is Sur- sha. Even when I said yes my dad's side are Irish (not that is blooming matters) they wouldn't have it - the woman even said how are you spelling it so I spelt 'Saoirse' and she said 'when you said her name (Seer-sha) I wouldn't have known her name was Saoirse unless you had spelt it for me because it is pronounced 'Sur-sha'

Am just amazed sometimes people ask her name I say it is 'Seer- sha' and they say 'Ohhh, SUR- sha' with huge emphasis on Sur. When someone tells me their name/ their childs name I make a huge effort to say it how they say it, because, well, that is their name!

I wasn't going to repost but many of you kindly had taken time to write replies before, so felt I should

It depends on what Irish dialect you're using - see https://abair.ie/ga
Put the word 'Saoirse' in the box on the left and then click the different places on the map to hear the different pronunciations

ABAIR

Irish Speech and Language Technologies

https://abair.ie/ga

KindOf · 04/10/2024 23:17

SershaAdele · 04/10/2024 20:34

I am a professional as I am called Saoirse 😁

you will see that my name is spelt Sersha on here as that’s what I get most often, plus I knew if I had Saoirse then people would know straight away it was me. Not that Sersha is so vague.

Saoirse Ronan pronounces hers as Sair-sher, and this is how I pronounce mine.

however, different dialect in Ireland means for different versions.

Sersha, Sorsha, Saysher, Seersher, Sairsher, Sarsher.

My scottish/Irish grandad says Sorsha.

my auntie who is Irish but married in to the family says Sersha.

irish friends have said Seersha.

it’s however you want it to be! These are all correct ways of pronounciation. And I respond to all.

That is complete nonsense. You don’t get to reinvent the phonetic laws of Irish.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 04/10/2024 23:22

KindOf · 04/10/2024 23:17

That is complete nonsense. You don’t get to reinvent the phonetic laws of Irish.

Very true.

Just noticed "Saoirse Ronan pronounces hers as Sair-sher, and this is how I pronounce mine"

No she doesn't. She doesn't add a non existant r to the end of her name.

BarbaraHoward · 04/10/2024 23:22

OchonAgusOchonOh · 04/10/2024 23:22

Very true.

Just noticed "Saoirse Ronan pronounces hers as Sair-sher, and this is how I pronounce mine"

No she doesn't. She doesn't add a non existant r to the end of her name.

@SershaAdele clearly has a non rhotic accent, I'm sure we've all been on enough R threads to know what she means.

OchonAgusOchonOh · 04/10/2024 23:30

BarbaraHoward · 04/10/2024 23:22

@SershaAdele clearly has a non rhotic accent, I'm sure we've all been on enough R threads to know what she means.

Yes but she appears to be claiming to be Irish. If she is Irish, there is no Irish accent I am aware of in which Sha and Shar are pronounced the same.

Fine if she is English and has a non rhotic accent but claiming Saoirse can be pronounced Seershar is absolutely incorrect for an Irish name in any Irish accent.

Shyfrog · 04/10/2024 23:33

That is my mother’s name and it’s pronounced soar-sha. It’s an uncommon name and strange to see it come up here for some reason

genesis92 · 04/10/2024 23:34

minipie · 04/10/2024 18:56

Thanks for this thread OP, I always thought it was Sor-sha until now!

It depends! I'm a Sorcha and it's pronounced Sor-sha

There are various ways of pronouncing it I've gathered