Quiet coach on trains

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If you deliberately book on to the quiet coach on a train what does this mean to you? I'm trying to work out if I'm naive or stupid as I thought it meant no talking on phones or listening to music etc out loud. I feel as though that's how it always was. More recently that seems to have gone out of the window and people just treat it the same as any other carriage. I'm on a train to Edinburgh from Kings Cross now and there's one person who has been constantly talking loudly on the phone and another with a child playing a beepy game on a tablet.

You'd think but a few years ago I told someone to stop playing all the ring tones on their phone in first class.

He told me the world didn't revolve around me, but he did stop.

So work quietly, or do not sit in a quiet space.

I only saw it done once - and the two girls were whispering. They are so strict.
Let’s be honest though, behavior is going out of the window in the UK. It’s pretty grim.

Kevin Bloody Wilson would be perfect for this situation!!

In which case the quiet carriage is the seeing places to be in. A train isn't an office, anyway.

Common courtesy has gone out the window. I've been commuting for 30 years and post Covid commuting is like every man or woman for himself/herself.

I would say 75% of my journeys have someone playing something out loud on their phone. Or people having a conversation with someone else where they hold the phone out in front of them!

No one seems to care much anymore. The only way to deal with it is noise cancelling headphones and even they are not perfect.

There seems to be an idea that the quiet coach is for children, NO! Unless they are very quiet and using headphones. Or sleeping the whole way. The quiet coach is for people who want to get away from loud conversations, children playing, and any device without headphones.

Re Quiet Coach, on French trains, people always go to the area between coaches o make or take calls. ( Unless they're British...). Quiet Coach not needed. I have seen family coaches, which is a great idea. I just avoid those coaches.