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How the hell does house buying work

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mortgagefordummies · 16/08/2024 11:51

We have a house worth around 200k that is owned outright. We need to move house for more space. Where we are we can get what we need for about 400k.
How the hell does it work?
The house was gifted so we're both new to this and never had a mortgage before.
Thanks !!

OP posts:
WickieRoy · 16/08/2024 13:41

mortgagefordummies · 16/08/2024 13:32

@WickieRoy By that I mean no big holidays abroad etc. We've already had 3 this year (bad year mentally for me and needed the time away) so yes we can afford it and wouldn't need 2 years to save that realistically but we would need to cut back on things like holidays which are a luxury.

Do you need the bigger house? I think I'd rather the holidays than having to cut back on big holidays I was used to because of the mortgage?

Obviously if you need the space you need it, and you're in a really fortunate position.

Pinkywoo · 16/08/2024 13:45

Several people mentioning stamp duty, as they're first time buyers they won't pay SD as long as the house is under 425,000.

AmberPanda · 16/08/2024 13:45

Step by step what would happen:
a) get your house valued by a few estate agents. Let’s say the average valuation is £200k.

b) speak to a mortgage advisor and work out what they would lend you. It’s not just a case of what they would lend you, but also how much repayments cost. Aka - they might lend you £400k, but if the monthly repayments on that are £5k a month you probably don’t want that! So you need to decide how much you’re willing to pay monthly and what you can get for that. Lots to discuss such as fixed interest rates, length of mortgage etc.

c) that will give you a rough budget of value of houses you can look at. Let’s say you’re comfortable with a mortgage of £200k. So you can look around £400k mark, but also factor in extra costs such as stamp duty (lots of online calculators), agent fees, moving and legal costs, work needed on house, survey costs. So you may want to look at places from £350-£450k as you can offer lower.

d) you sign up with an estate agent to market your property at a value. If someone offers you can decide it you want to accept or not. They may offer under asking, but be in a very good position. (Ie not have a long chain beneath them) so you may accept it.

e) once you have an offer on yours it’s likely only then you will be allowed to offer on another property (sometimes you can’t even view until yours is under offer

f) you find a property you like and offer on it. You should take into account what prices others have sold for nearby and the state of the house.

g) then you appoint and pay for a solicitor and a survey. The surveyor will go and look at the house in detail and look for any problems and advise whether in their opinion there are issues you need to be aware of. You pay for these.
You will also get your mortgage set up at this point.

h) the solicitor will liaise with the buyers solicitor which can take aggggges as they need to iron out a million little things, from checking if the house is in flood zones, and questioning every tiny things in the deeds to make sure you’re not exposed to anything.

i) once the whole chain is ready and sorted you will “exchange”. This can take a loooong time with a long chain, as your buyer may have someone buying their house, and someone buying their house etc. And everyone needs to be completely ready. A couple of days before this you will need to transfer 10% of the house purchase price to the solicitor as a deposit. As you’re upgrading you’ll need to pay the excess on top of the 10% your buyer will transfer for yours I think. Once you exchange you are legally obliged to buy the house. On the day of exchange a completion date will be agreed. This could range from a day to a couple of weeks.

j) once you’ve exchanged you book movers etc and get your ducks in a line. A couple of days before completion date you will transfer the balance of deposit if needed to the solicitor if you’re buying a more expensive house if needed, depending on what mortgage you went for.

k) on day of completion you move all your belongings out. The money will move from the bottom of the chain up and once your money hits the account of the people you’re buying from (or solicitors) then the house is legally yours. You pick up keys from estate agent and move in!

l) completion day can be stressful in long chains as your purchasers money may hit your solicitors account and the house is legally theirs but there may be a bit of a delay until your money hits the house you’re buying!

m) it’s important to note u til the point of exchange anyone can pull out of the purchase at any point. This does happen and it’s very upsetting as if the chain breaks you will have already sunk money for surveys and lawyers on a house you may not end up buying. It’s a shit system but it is what it is. Just be prepared for it.

house buying is stressful there’s no doubt about it. You rely on a lot of other people not changing their mind often. The survey could bring up things like damp on a house which would need a lot of work so you may need to renegotiate the price etc. It can take a long time!

twomanyfrogsinabox · 16/08/2024 14:05

mortgagefordummies · 16/08/2024 13:17

@lemonyellows Isn't there a cap on areas though ? So even with stuff done you can only really get so much ?

There is a maximum someone will pay in a particular area how ever perfect the house is. But if yours is now better than it was it is likely to increase the selling price, how much by just depends, a brand new kitchen is great, but if your potential buyers hate it, it wouldn't add value for them.

Carebearsonmybed · 16/08/2024 14:07

Find an independent financial advisor (one who isn't tied to selling you products from certain companies) and get them to tell you how much of a mortgage you can get. (You'll need to have details of all your incomes/outgoings)

Then once you have a mortgage in principle you can house hunt.

You'll need a conveyancing solicitor to do the legal bits of the purchase. It usually takes 8 weeks from an offer being accepted to moving in.

So pack & book the delivery.

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 16/08/2024 15:02

Pinkywoo · 16/08/2024 13:45

Several people mentioning stamp duty, as they're first time buyers they won't pay SD as long as the house is under 425,000.

  • Make sure you know the definition of a First Time Buyer in this case:You cannot have ever owned a property, even if you have now sold it (this includes inheritance)
  • You cannot have owned property abroad
  • If it is a joint purchase, both partners must be First Time Buyers
  • You can own commercial property

Complete Guide to Stamp Duty: Understanding Your Tax

The actual government site says:
A first time buyer is defined as an individual or individuals who have never owned an interest in a residential property in the United Kingdom or anywhere else in the world and who intends to occupy the property as their main residence.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/stamp-duty-land-tax-relief-for-first-time-buyers/stamp-duty-land-tax-relief-for-first-time-buyers

I'd check this out with a solicitor - as may be more nuanced - but as they have inherited a property they may well not count as first time buyers.

Complete Guide to Stamp Duty: Understanding Your Tax

When you're buying a property, it's likely you'll need to pay Stamp Duty Land Tax, a form of tax on your purchase.

https://www.reallymoving.com/conveyancing/guides/complete-guide-to-stamp-duty#:~:text=Make%20sure%20you%20know%20the,must%20be%20First%20Time%20Buyers

boredybored · 16/08/2024 15:11

Get your house valued

Get a mortgage in principle

Go and look at houses you can afford

Get a buyer for your house

Offer on house you like

Get a solicitor and follow instructions

Get new house 🤩

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