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What was wealthy life like in the 1970s and before?

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Ozgirl75 · 06/08/2024 23:52

I was just pondering today, I can imagine and picture what it was like to be wealthy in the 1980s; a Porsche, holidays in Europe, gold fittings etc. But if you were quite wealthy (say earning 500k+ as a business owner, working in the city, banker etc) in the 1950s or 1970s, what was your life like? What did you spend your money on? What was your house like? Where did you live in fact?
i grew up in the 80s and 90s so it’s just hard to imagine proper wealth (not aristo inherited, more like earned money) earlier than that.
Anyone here grow up in wealth from the 40s onwards?

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MikeRafone · 07/08/2024 11:44

LunaNorth · 07/08/2024 08:29

From what I can gather from books and films set at the time, life for a well-off woman in the UK was pretty boring and unfulfilling.

It seems to have centred around being the perfect accessory for the husband - being able to make small talk at business dinners and at the golf club, keeping oneself slim and well-presented, shopping, perfecting one’s soufflé for dinner parties, keeping up with the Joneses in terms of the home.

Many didn’t even have their children at home during term time.

Probably explains why so many were on Valium and having affairs.

Butterflies the TV show reminds me of this

the bored housewife of a dentist

Dorisbonson · 07/08/2024 11:57

In complete total contrast to this books like the Road to Nab End might be interesting too. Reading about what was normal in the past is quite a good reminder that things aren't always as bad as they seem.

hildabaker · 07/08/2024 12:00

I've just looked up Rachman as an example of an unscrupulous slum landlord in those days but I see he was earlier. I guess I was going to make a point that it wasn't perfect renting in the past.

I've just remembered the first bedsit I rented when I left home in the late 70s, it was £12.50 a week, in a nice old Victorian house.

Lastminuteisinit · 07/08/2024 12:03

Temporaryanonymity · 07/08/2024 08:26

I read Susannah Constantine’s autobiography recently. She writes an interesting account of growing up in a wealthy family in the 60s and 70s.

I definitely second this! I opened it to have a look and read the first half in one sitting! Fascinating.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 07/08/2024 12:20

hildabaker · 07/08/2024 12:00

I've just looked up Rachman as an example of an unscrupulous slum landlord in those days but I see he was earlier. I guess I was going to make a point that it wasn't perfect renting in the past.

I've just remembered the first bedsit I rented when I left home in the late 70s, it was £12.50 a week, in a nice old Victorian house.

We rented two rooms on the top of a house in Tufnell Park. One room was a bedroom. One end of the other room was fitted out with a gas cooker, sink and draining board and a couple of wall cupboards. The other end was the living/dining area. We shared a loo with the couple renting the floor below and the ground floor bathroom was shared between everybody in the house (the landlord and his family lived on the lower two floors). Gas fire, on a coin-slot meter. £30 a week (1981). Went up to £33 a week eventually.

hildabaker · 07/08/2024 12:25

Seems like yesterday, seems like another lifetime.

The past is a foreign country, they do things differently there.

Throughthebluebells · 07/08/2024 12:36

I grew up in the 1960s and 70s in a fairly wealthy home.

We had a lovely detached house in a beautiful village near the sea in the South East with a few acres and stables for the ponies. We also had a heated swimming pool in the gardens.

We had the big Jaguar and a Landrover to pull the horse trailer to events or hunting every weekend and my mother had a sports car. We went to a local posh day school rather than boarding although many of our friends boarded at public schools.

We had an au pair (who was also good with horses), a housekeeper and a gardener.

Our holidays were spent in western Europe, mainly South of France, Switzerland and Italy but we also went to Germany, Luxembourg, Scandinavia and a few other countries. We drove rather than flew to most places. My parents went on more exotic holidays including cruises without us and often spent a couple of months in South Africa leaving us with a nanny and grandparents.

As well as his own businesses, my parents owned lots of other property that was rented out to mainly elderly tenants who seemed to have complete security at low rents - we only got the flats back to improve and re-rent when they died or went into nursing homes.

When I was a teenager, taxes were very high and there was a lot of talk about people moving abroad - 'the brain drain' and keeping their money outside the country. My parents considered it but didn't do it.

drspouse · 07/08/2024 12:38

My grandfather was an NHS doctor (so not top tier wealthy, not pushy like the Leadbetters either though). Lived rurally in an enormous (8 bed including the servants' quarters) house. Had a small amount of land and rented it out, part of the rent came in the form of a goose at Christmas.
My DF was the oldest and went to boarding prep and then boarding, and they went skiing (this was 1950s), and my aunts went to private day school locally (as did my youngest uncle who is from a second marriage, so he was a 1970s child). They were not the St Tropez/Bahamas types though, more the Scottish Highlands with a picnic type, more through frugality though rather than needing to. Went for improving hikes and to museums and had a Woman who Does, not balls and hunting, though we were taken occasionally to see the Boxing Day hunt, nobody really rode.

I loved the Sloane Ranger Handbook purely because it was so unlike anything I knew, even my pretty wealthy (on paper) grandparents.

OnlyFrench · 07/08/2024 12:41

Interesting question. I was born in the early sixties, not wealthy but privately educated (full scholarship) from the age of eleven, which was when I first met wealthy people. I couldn't tell you anything about them because they just didn't mix with us! I was aware girls in my class had holidays in France and Italy, and houses with pools and tennis courts, but that's as far as it went.

It's probably only in the last twenty five years I've started mixing with families like that, partly because of where I lived and also through my children's school friends and hobbies.

Ginmonkeyagain · 07/08/2024 12:48

Elizabeth Jane Howard's Cazalet series will give you an idea of how a well off upper middle class family would have lived in the inter war years.

MargoLivebetter · 07/08/2024 13:00

Loving this thread. Thank you @Ozgirl75

It depends quite a bit on your definition of wealth. I grew up on a farm and we weren't very wealthy but due to the way the social scene worked in the countryside then we moved in wealthy countryside circles. My mother also came from a very wealthy family.

My observations would be that for all that my mother grew up in what was in the 1930s and 40s a very wealthy household, it doesn't look like wealth does nowadays. No central heating, the house riddled with damp, relatively sparse food, very few new clothes, very few toys, a bath once a week. Obviously no TV but they had a wireless but that was strictly controlled by her father. Hot water bottles were hot bricks wrapped in a towel. She didn't leave the country she was born in until she was in her 20s. She didn't even travel outside of the county she was born in until her late teens. But she grew up in a huge house with staff. She never had to tidy her room, never saw her mother do any cooking or learnt how to cook herself, but she said she remembers being hungry for most of her childhood.

Observations of wealth in the countryside in my own childhood from the 1970s and into the 80s was that it became far more conspicuous. In the 70s we would bundle around to massive piles to play as kids and they would be shabby, dilapidated and we had the run of the places. No one cared what mischief we got up to or that we tore about the place in our muddy shoes and boots. We all wore shabby hand me down clothes that did the country family circuit in huge bin liners. You'd be at someone's house playing and an older brother or sister would come in and say that they remembered that shirt. Going into the 80s that slowly changed and wealth seemed to become more obvious and people started getting much more precious about their houses and their children. My younger siblings did much less rampaging around the place freely than I did. People started to acquire stuff in a way that I hadn't noticed before too. In the 1970s even the wealthy people, had a Radio Rentals TV and the same BT telephone. That was all there was, or at least in the circles I moved in. I imagine in London it was probably more advanced. We'd bundle around to all the kids houses, so that would be the people in the small cottages and normal houses and everyone had the same kind of stuff, just with less rooms. No one had fancy tech, apart from maybe a very rudimentary 'hifi' which was a large record player and speaker. No one had particularly smart furniture or carpets or any fancy gadgets in their kitchens. In the big houses there was usually a drawing room that we were forbidden entry to and in the small houses the front room was usually out of bounds. I'm sure in the massive piles there was expensive art on the walls, rather than prints or china plates, but weirdly there was a sameness about all our lives. I didn't know anyone who had a chopper bike, any kind of electronic toy or anything that was remotely a 70s trendy type of thing at all. Expensive things for children were perceived as a bit of an indulgence by everyone, regardless of wealth, or at least that is my memory. I remember going to play at someone's house, who my mother considered to be 'nouveau', and the girl had a bedroom filled with toys and my mother was outraged all the way home at how 'spoilt' the child was.

There was definitely a distinction in hobbies or pastimes. So the truly wealthy did things in the 1970s that set them apart. They went skiing, went abroad for a summer holiday, rode ponies/horses, played croquet, had a tennis court and possibly a swimming pool. They also had properties elsewhere, so a flat in London or a 'place' somewhere in Scotland or abroad. However, as kids we didn't really know much about that.

Where you went to school was a differentiator as well, although where I was in the 70s pretty much everyone started at the village school and then as you progressed through the classes it changed as those with more money went to prep and boarding school.

To me the 80s brought about a massive change and it suddenly became infinitely more apparent to me at least who had money and who didn't. Cars suddenly became way more exotic and exciting and the kind of car you drove started to matter. The tech you had started to matter a lot. New things became important in a way I don't remember them being so important. Distinctions in wealth became both more nuanced and obvious too.

worryworrysuperscurry · 07/08/2024 13:06

My aunt and uncle were wealthy, he was a well known journalist and she had inherited money. They lived in a huge detached house in Richmond, with gardener and cleaner.
All of the cousins used to go stay in the summer, and I remember massive garden to play in.
Four children at private school. Uncle had a Jaguar, aunt had a little sports car. I remember them going on the maiden voyage of the QE2. They used to have groceries delivered in a van from Harrods. Their lifestyle was an eye opener for me. And made me aspire to better things.

StMarieforme · 07/08/2024 13:16

Read some Agatha Christie- it's about 6 decades of wealth!

faffadoodledo · 07/08/2024 13:18

worryworrysuperscurry · 07/08/2024 13:06

My aunt and uncle were wealthy, he was a well known journalist and she had inherited money. They lived in a huge detached house in Richmond, with gardener and cleaner.
All of the cousins used to go stay in the summer, and I remember massive garden to play in.
Four children at private school. Uncle had a Jaguar, aunt had a little sports car. I remember them going on the maiden voyage of the QE2. They used to have groceries delivered in a van from Harrods. Their lifestyle was an eye opener for me. And made me aspire to better things.

Dimblebys? Sounds like it could be!

Barbadossunset · 07/08/2024 13:18

Boiling water tap and ate avocado.

I had no idea boiling water taps were a thing in the 1970s. I thought they were a relatively new invention.

MailmansWife · 07/08/2024 13:29

@MargoLivebetter I won't quote your post as it's long but thank you for this. Very interesting, and adds a lot to my experiences that I shared earlier in the thread

worryworrysuperscurry · 07/08/2024 13:33

@faffadoodledo No, but my uncle knew Richard Dimbleby quite well.

Ozgirl75 · 07/08/2024 13:45

Thank you @MargoLivebetter that was brilliantly interesting. So fascinating that there wasn’t much in the way of “stuff” for the wealthy to aspire to or buy, unlike these days. More about land and houses and probably travel too.

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Luxembourgmama · 07/08/2024 13:46

MailmansWife · 07/08/2024 11:38

Thank you for starting this thread. I love the ones like this!

me too!

ItsRainingTacos79 · 07/08/2024 13:57

Our house is an early 70s build and we are the second owners. When we purchased it we were amazed at how ornately the original owners had decorated it. They had fitted sofas in the living room that were sunk into the ground and you had to walk down steps to sit on them. The fully fitted kitchen was by Poggenpohl. There was a 'media room' with a mahogany fitted media unit, including a system to play movie reels fitted into the walls. The dining room has a grand piano gathering dust. Parts of the house were refurbed piecemeal over the 50 years they lived there but the original features must have been the height of luxury in the 70s. The master bedroom was in a class of its own; baby blue pleated silk ceiling which gathered into a huge mirrored centre. It was really something else. Big swishy matching silk curtains. I imagine the original owners lived a very decadent lifestyle for that time.

mitogoshi · 07/08/2024 14:29

You would be seriously wealthy on a lot less than that - very few earned the levels you consider wealthy then but things cost less.

Dp's family used boarding schools, holidays long haul, had household help.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 07/08/2024 14:31

Older generations never followed fashion

Absolute bunkum. Not wearing jeans doesn't not mean not following fashion. Many rich people would have been far more avid followers of fashion than less well off ones, because clothes then (even ordinary clothes) were considerably more expensive.

mitogoshi · 07/08/2024 14:31

Oh and having a club in London you stayed at when "in town" for business.

mitogoshi · 07/08/2024 14:35

And regarding fashion, wealthy businessmen (and nearly always men) had suits made, shirts and even socks were monogrammed.

Tweed skirts was the style the indicated you were a wealthy housewife, dry clean only of course so you weren't doing your own housework! London fashions were different

NoBinturongsHereMate · 07/08/2024 15:10

A woman I knew who would have come of age around 1960.

Went to a private day school, her brother was sent to a public school as a boarder.

Wanted to go to university but wasn't allowed. Her parents sent her to a Swiss finishing school instead. There she learnt:

  • Etiquette and deportment, including how to get in and.out of a.low sports car without rumpling her clothes or showing her knickers.
  • How to manage a plate, wine glass and cigarette (in holder) at a standing-up party - and eat without having to put anything down.
  • Cordon bleu cookery. Partly taught at the Swiss school, partly at a separate residential school in Paris.
  • How to eat spaghetti by twirling it round a fork (a rare skill in the 60s).
  • Hostess skills - preparing a menu, table plans according to seniority of guest, every possible shape of glass for each drink, proper introductions, small talk etc.
  • Flower arranging.
  • Social dancing.
  • Interior design.
  • Cocktail making.
  • Household management, with and without staff.
  • Hairstyling and makeup (her own, not as a trade)

Holidays were a beach in the south of France or Italy in the summer, skiing in Swizerland in winter.

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