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12 million people in the UK have a criminal record

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samarrange · 06/05/2024 22:58

It's true.

33% of men and 9% of women have a criminal record. (The figures in the linked article are from a few years back, but they haven't changed much since. I linked to that page because it has a better breakdown and analysis than any that I've seen with more recent numbers.)

I genuinely don't know what to think about this. I am in my 50s and I don't know anyone with a criminal record (or at least, that I know of). But over the years I have been exposed to a variety of worlds that are, shall we say, less salubrious than my upbringing was, so while 33% of men still seems like a lot, finding that out didn't cause me to keel over in astonishment. (Maybe there is some kind of huge divide, between people who are reading this thinking "Only 33% of men? Round here they're all scrotes", and others who are in fact keeling over in astonishment.)

I learned about these numbers a while ago, but the topic popped into my brain when reading the recent thread about the farmer who shot a burglar. It seems to me that when such a big percentage of society consists of people who transgress against the rules (and of course, to get a criminal record you have to get caught, so the percentage of scrotes offenders is probably even higher), them maybe we have to accept at some level that criminality is part of the background noise of life, like road accidents and heart attacks, rather than something committed by a very tiny minority who we can afford to slag off and then ignore. It turns out that a large part of the population has at least some ambivalence about criminality, to the point that they took part in it themselves. Even if they regret it today, they know what it's like to set out to do something sufficiently illegal to get you arrested. It feels like the old joke that if you owe the bank a thousand pounds then you have a problem, but if you owe the bank a billion pounds then the bank has a problem.

For the avoidance of doubt, this is not to justify crime, or to suggest that I would not cheerfully strangle whoever nicked my bag a few months back (they can keep the cash, but replacing all the documents was a task that made me want to cut off my hand). It's just to try and make sense of the idea that a huge percentage of the people in the same supermarket or on the same holiday flight as me have at some point been in trouble with the law for something other than a motoring offence, and what that might tell us about our society. And again, I honestly don't know what to think about it.

Key facts - Unlock

Number of people with criminal records There are over 12 million people with a criminal record. 33 per cent of males born in 1953 had been convicted in England and Wales by 2006 of at least one standard list offence before the age of 53 (Standard list...

https://unlock.org.uk/policy-issues/key-facts/

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UnstableEquilibrium · 23/12/2024 10:25

This data refers to convictions for "standard list" offences only: ie not cautions, and not offences which are Magistrates Court Only.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/217474/criminal-histories-bulletin.pdf
It excludes "minor" motoring offences, but depending on the date it may or may not include driving without insurance, DUI, and common assault.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/217474/criminal-histories-bulletin.pdf

WaryCrow · 24/12/2024 00:51

For what it’s worth I live in the north west, evidently for my sins. I have been made to feel like a bad ‘un more than once for having worked (the fact that all’s it got me was a return to the north west seems to escape many) and for having neither a conviction myself nor a family member in prison.

This country is very very wrong. Inverse snobbery for someone not of wealthy, supportive or inheriting background who has done nothing greatly wrong, while male violence, drugs culture and prostitution for women all appear to be praised.

WaryCrow · 24/12/2024 01:09

In quibble mode, that weblink actually says 33% of males born in 1953. There are lots of crime stats to wade through to find modern numbers, and I can’t say I find the figure of 6.66 million crimes in 2023/4 reassuring. Eg statista and the gov.uk site.

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ElsaGreen · 24/12/2024 02:24

You know loads of people with a criminal record OP...they just don't talk about it.

You would be surprised how many professional people like healthcare professionals will have something like a caution in their past - it's not necessarily a barrier to working with vulnerable people, depends on circumstances, nature of offence etc.

OneAmberFinch · 24/12/2024 02:40

You have to define criminal record pretty broadly to get a figure of 30%.

People who commit quote-unquote "actual crimes" (murder, rape, violent attacks, etc) are actually a very small percentage of the population. I think I remember a Swedish study where 1% of the population committed over 50% of all crime. It's not evenly distributed at all.

Obviously that's not counting "broke the Rule of Six" type stuff as a crime...

NotVeryFunny · 24/12/2024 03:47

You seem to be confusing criminality and morality OP. I don't gave any problem with me or others breaking rules or laws that don't align with my morals. Also, there will be a proportion of people who are generally law abiding but made a mistake. Or were young and did something they wouldn't do now and got caught. Not all people with a criminal conviction are lawless or as you say "ambivalent about criminality".

Catullus5 · 24/12/2024 05:16

The percentage of people who have committed crimes (rather than having a record) will be much higher and I imagine would include at at least half the contributors to this thread.

MrsPeregrine · 24/12/2024 07:57

That’s about 18% of the UK population if true which is pretty disgusting.

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