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15% of households skipped meals last month because they couldn't afford to buy enough food

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cakeorwine · 27/02/2024 07:03

‘Health emergency’: 15% of UK households went hungry last month, data shows | Food poverty | The Guardian

"Millions of people – including one in five families with children – have gone hungry or skipped meals in recent weeks because they could not regularly afford to buy groceries, according to new food insecurity data.
According to the Food Foundation tracker, 15% of UK households – equivalent to approximately 8 million adults and 3 million children – experienced food insecurity in January, as high food prices continued to hit the pockets of low-income families.

Expects warned the persistence of high levels of food insecurity among low-income families was a “health emergency” that would drive the prevalence of conditions linked to poor nutrition, such as malnutrition and rickets.
Nearly two-thirds (60%) of food-insecure households reported buying less fruit and 44% bought fewer vegetables as they struggled with the ongoing cost of living crisis. By contrast, just 11% of food-secure households bought less fruit and 6% purchased fewer vegetables"

This is awful data - and something that should be being talked about. Being in work does not protect you from this. Life is just very expensive for some people - and costs are still going up.

‘Health emergency’: 15% of UK households went hungry last month, data shows

As millions skip meals and are unable to regularly afford groceries, the Food Foundation warns of widening health inequalities

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/feb/27/health-emergency-15-of-uk-households-went-hungry-last-month-data-shows

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PawsisShady · 28/02/2024 11:45

@Naptrappedmummy at Morrisons (needed a delivery as was unable to get to Aldi)
I guess some people can't use Aldi or Lidl due to where they're located too, I'm lucky to have a choice but for someone who only had say Morrisons locally...

Goldenbear · 28/02/2024 11:45

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 11:38

Why rye bread and humous? Confused Just wholemeal toast and peanut butter is healthy, filling and much cheaper.

Rye bread has more fibre in it. There are many associated health problems with the lack of fibre in diets and if I can avoid it with my DC I will. They don't like peanut butter

Augustus40 · 28/02/2024 11:46

Whole Earth peanut butter is nearly a fiver!

Goldenbear · 28/02/2024 11:50

Goldenbear · 28/02/2024 11:45

Rye bread has more fibre in it. There are many associated health problems with the lack of fibre in diets and if I can avoid it with my DC I will. They don't like peanut butter

That is not to say others shouldn't have wholemeal bread though. I was just trying to point out that the snacks are essential for my teenagers but they aren't all junk.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 28/02/2024 11:50

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 10:50

I’m a republican but IHT on big estates will make nothing like the dent needed to transform public services.

IHT isn't the answer. Annual land value tax is the answer.

Goldenbear · 28/02/2024 11:51

And my MIL told me Houmous is easy to make and was shocked that I don't make it so I could probably do that.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 28/02/2024 11:52

Menomeno · 28/02/2024 11:13

It’s not “usually temporary” for loads of people.

My DSSis is a single mum, with two kids. She works hard, on minimum wage. She works in a shop during the day, and behind a bar in the evenings. She struggles. Both jobs are zero hours, so sometimes she’ll work crazy long hours, and sometimes she’s struggling to get shifts. Her wages are topped up by UC, but obviously the weeks she works extra she won’t make a fortune more because UC take back half of the extra wages. She rents privately, though she’s been on the council list for over ten years, since her husband left.

With the best will in the world, she will never earn more than this. She’s a lovely girl, but being brutally honest she’s thick as a pan of mince and barely literate. She’s just not cut out for college. And frankly, we need people to work in these type of jobs and they still should be able to live. Her only chance of escaping poverty is if she moves in with a man who will share the household bills, which is a truly sad state of affairs.

The reasons she struggles are because she’s raising children on one income, and housing and utilities cost more than she can afford. Not because she can’t cook.

Also worth mentioning that most women don’t have kids with feckless men. They have them with seemingly responsible men, who suddenly decide to leg it when their head is turned. Men compartmentalise, and as soon as they set up home with another woman they often have a complete personality change and forget about their responsibilities to their first family. Even where men do ‘pay their way’, their £300 a month contribution won’t make a dent toward the £1200 a month mortgage and the £1000 a month childcare bill.

I'd like to highlight the point about feckless men and I'd also like to say that it is misogyny to blame a mother for the father's choice to be a deadbeat dad.

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/02/2024 11:53

think of that for a moment. I was 21. I left my family home and my parents with a single bag. I got on a train. I travelled for five hours. I slept on a friends floor in an unknown town where I had no connections, no family and only one person. I took myself off the the job centre the next day and began work in an office making coffee for the boss for a wage that barely covered the rent for a room in a shared house with a load of strangers.

would you do that? To make a life for yourself?

I did do that back in the 90s. It would be completely impractical now I'm in my 50s with 2 children at school and aging parents. What's your point @Hoppitybobbins?

Goldenbear · 28/02/2024 11:57

Hummus - sorry keep misspelling the word!

Menomeno · 28/02/2024 11:57

TooBigForMyBoots · 28/02/2024 11:53

think of that for a moment. I was 21. I left my family home and my parents with a single bag. I got on a train. I travelled for five hours. I slept on a friends floor in an unknown town where I had no connections, no family and only one person. I took myself off the the job centre the next day and began work in an office making coffee for the boss for a wage that barely covered the rent for a room in a shared house with a load of strangers.

would you do that? To make a life for yourself?

I did do that back in the 90s. It would be completely impractical now I'm in my 50s with 2 children at school and aging parents. What's your point @Hoppitybobbins?

Probably that Norman Tebbit would be so proud! 🙄

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 11:59

Goldenbear · 28/02/2024 11:45

Rye bread has more fibre in it. There are many associated health problems with the lack of fibre in diets and if I can avoid it with my DC I will. They don't like peanut butter

Well 🤷🏼‍♀️

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 12:00

Augustus40 · 28/02/2024 11:46

Whole Earth peanut butter is nearly a fiver!

I buy ASDA own brand. Rye bread, hummus, £5 peanut butter… no wonder you all think eating is so expensive!

DragonScreeches · 28/02/2024 12:01

Augustus40 · 28/02/2024 11:46

Whole Earth peanut butter is nearly a fiver!

Yep. The cheaper stuff is full of palm oil. Though Aldi do a good cheaper PB that is 100% peanuts.

Goldenbear · 28/02/2024 12:05

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 12:00

I buy ASDA own brand. Rye bread, hummus, £5 peanut butter… no wonder you all think eating is so expensive!

Rye bread is also what I grew up with as have Scandinavian heritage and it's what I am used to, what my Mum bought.

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 12:06

DragonScreeches · 28/02/2024 12:01

Yep. The cheaper stuff is full of palm oil. Though Aldi do a good cheaper PB that is 100% peanuts.

If we are now going to argue that buying cheap peanut butter rather than a jar at £5 a pop means you’re in food poverty then this really has gone into joke territory.

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 12:06

Goldenbear · 28/02/2024 12:05

Rye bread is also what I grew up with as have Scandinavian heritage and it's what I am used to, what my Mum bought.

Doesn’t change the fact it’s expensive though.

pointythings · 28/02/2024 12:06

@Naptrappedmummy your reaction to someone not liking peanut butter is so very typical. So if you're poor, you aren't allowed to have food that is nutritious and that you enjoy. The attitude of blaming poor people for being poor is ingrained, and you don't even know it.

In a country like the UK, everyone should have a safe, warm house. Everyone should have nutritious enjoyable food to eat. Everyone should be able to afford the essentials of clothes, shoes, toiletries, cleaning products. Everyone should be able to have light, heat, warm water for washing. Why are people on this thread not furious that this isn't the case? Why are people so eager to lay blame instead of looking at the overall picture?

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 12:11

pointythings · 28/02/2024 12:06

@Naptrappedmummy your reaction to someone not liking peanut butter is so very typical. So if you're poor, you aren't allowed to have food that is nutritious and that you enjoy. The attitude of blaming poor people for being poor is ingrained, and you don't even know it.

In a country like the UK, everyone should have a safe, warm house. Everyone should have nutritious enjoyable food to eat. Everyone should be able to afford the essentials of clothes, shoes, toiletries, cleaning products. Everyone should be able to have light, heat, warm water for washing. Why are people on this thread not furious that this isn't the case? Why are people so eager to lay blame instead of looking at the overall picture?

I enjoy smoked salmon. Doesn’t mean I feel entitled to buy it 3 times a week otherwise I’m oppressed.

’Everyone should..’ all very nice but I wouldn’t say not buying £5 peanut butter means you can’t eat nutritiously. You seem to think luxuries (because £5 PB is a bit of a luxury to me!) are entitlements and they’re not.

Nobody is owed a lifestyle, only a life.

DragonScreeches · 28/02/2024 12:11

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 12:06

If we are now going to argue that buying cheap peanut butter rather than a jar at £5 a pop means you’re in food poverty then this really has gone into joke territory.

Er, where did I argue that buying cheap peanut butter rather than a jar at £5 a pop means you’re in food poverty. Could you point me to where I said that, please?

I simply pointed out that cheap PB is full of palm oil. Which is true. I also pointed out some cheaper PBs are 100% peanut, such as Aldi own brand and Asda. Which is also true.

You do have a very bad habit of putting words into other poster's mouths. I have seen you do it before. It makes it hard to have a reasonable discussion with you.

Heartofglass83 · 28/02/2024 12:13

I think one of my biggest annoyances is that people want to stick the boot in and make poor people even more fucking miserable.
Poor people are not allowed to have anything nice, no comforts, and the answer always seems to be folks should live on a fucking bean and vegetable stew all week.

Goldenbear · 28/02/2024 12:14

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 12:06

If we are now going to argue that buying cheap peanut butter rather than a jar at £5 a pop means you’re in food poverty then this really has gone into joke territory.

I'm not personally experiencing food poverty but I am incensed that in one of the richest countries on the world it exists!

I was listening to a radio 4 programme yesterday about this teacher in the U.S who is campaigning to raise awareness of the impact of poor quality food has on the learning outcomes of children in deprived areas and how this obviously further broadens wealth inequality. My parents grew up in working class homes (although probably considered lower middle class now)but all the food was cooked from scratch, lots of vegetables home grown in my Mum's case, no fibre problems and no disadvantage.

Goldenbear · 28/02/2024 12:23

Who wants to live like this, more broadly, public services are dire so widening of wealth gap, councils going bankrupt, parks, libraries are they going to be no more, what the hell is going on with the governance of this country!

Goldenbear · 28/02/2024 12:25

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 12:06

Doesn’t change the fact it’s expensive though.

It has a longer shelf life though so it swings in roundabouts.

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 12:27

@Goldenbear if we gave every family claiming food poverty a £100 voucher to spend on food a week, do you HONESTLY think they would spend it on low palm oil peanut butter, rye bread and salmon fillets? I know you can’t look me in the eye but try to do it virtually! You know the answer, I know the answer, we all know the answer.

This is every bit as much about people buying quick expensive junk and not wanting to eat healthier cheaper food they see as ‘slop’, as it is about a lack of money.

Let’s start with universal free school meals that are REAL meals - a salad bar and a properly healthy main course, with fruit and yoghurt for pudding only. That way all children will have at least 1 healthy meal a day. We could even open breakfast bars in school, just with wholewheat toast, butter and a few spreads with a banana.

I honestly don’t think handing over more and more cash is the way to go. And even if benefits and the NMW rose dramatically tomorrow there would STILL be children in food poverty because as PP said some would still buy cheap junk and spend the money on other things.

Naptrappedmummy · 28/02/2024 12:28

Goldenbear · 28/02/2024 12:23

Who wants to live like this, more broadly, public services are dire so widening of wealth gap, councils going bankrupt, parks, libraries are they going to be no more, what the hell is going on with the governance of this country!

The governance is crap and the public don’t work, it’s a twofold problem.

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