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15% of households skipped meals last month because they couldn't afford to buy enough food

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cakeorwine · 27/02/2024 07:03

‘Health emergency’: 15% of UK households went hungry last month, data shows | Food poverty | The Guardian

"Millions of people – including one in five families with children – have gone hungry or skipped meals in recent weeks because they could not regularly afford to buy groceries, according to new food insecurity data.
According to the Food Foundation tracker, 15% of UK households – equivalent to approximately 8 million adults and 3 million children – experienced food insecurity in January, as high food prices continued to hit the pockets of low-income families.

Expects warned the persistence of high levels of food insecurity among low-income families was a “health emergency” that would drive the prevalence of conditions linked to poor nutrition, such as malnutrition and rickets.
Nearly two-thirds (60%) of food-insecure households reported buying less fruit and 44% bought fewer vegetables as they struggled with the ongoing cost of living crisis. By contrast, just 11% of food-secure households bought less fruit and 6% purchased fewer vegetables"

This is awful data - and something that should be being talked about. Being in work does not protect you from this. Life is just very expensive for some people - and costs are still going up.

‘Health emergency’: 15% of UK households went hungry last month, data shows

As millions skip meals and are unable to regularly afford groceries, the Food Foundation warns of widening health inequalities

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/feb/27/health-emergency-15-of-uk-households-went-hungry-last-month-data-shows

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Hoppitybobbins · 27/02/2024 18:31

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 27/02/2024 18:26

That depends where you live and what shops you have access to.

If you drive or live within walking distance of an ALDI, maybe. If you don't drive and only have a co-op or a Spar, then £70 isn't going to get you very far.

Tesco delivery. I buy an annual pass which is an investment, yes, but you get that money back from Tesco prices and club card points. There is no ‘it depends’ because I’ve been doing it for years with two teenagers. We have lovely meals and this also includes packed lunches.

effort is required. I’m not pretending it doesn’t. I spend a long time in my kitchen. And yes, I work. Full time.

Frequency · 27/02/2024 18:32

PingvsPong · 27/02/2024 18:27

Does a known contract ending count as 'losing your job'? I thought contractors know they're disposable (well, a bit more than permies, all of us in 2024 are disposable really) and plan accordingly.

Sorry, I worded that wrong. The contract I work on is ending therefore my job is being made redundant. It wasn't known that this would happen until Christmas. We assumed the contract would be renewed.

I took out the new contract with Virgin in November and my phone over a year ago.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 27/02/2024 18:33

PingvsPong · 27/02/2024 18:27

Does a known contract ending count as 'losing your job'? I thought contractors know they're disposable (well, a bit more than permies, all of us in 2024 are disposable really) and plan accordingly.

The 12 month contract is clearly with Virgin, not her employer.

I'm on an open-ended contract. My employer has just announced voluntary redundancies. Compulsory will follow if they don't get enough takers. I'm terrified because I have a mortgage and a broadband contract that I am locked into for two years.

Jellycatspyjamas · 27/02/2024 18:37

I don’t know if people realise that a parent on UC is actually better off than a working single parent on a low income when you look at the take home after tax

How is that possible? The working mum would still be eligible for UC, would have a disregard for the first part of her wages and keep 45p in the pound of anything over that. She won’t get raking it in but will see the benefit of her work in her income.

TheThingIsYeah · 27/02/2024 18:37

Frequency · 27/02/2024 18:15

Has it occurred to you they might have taken those on before losing their job?

I've just upgraded our wifi to Virgin's ultrafast BB for £87 a month. I'll now have to pay that out of UC when my job ends because I'm in a 12-month contract with them.

Ditto the 36-month phone contract I took out last year for £35 a month.

I could afford both of those things when I took them but will struggle now my job is ending unless I find something similar before my contract at work ends.

122 sovs a month for a phone and broadband?!

Ever heard of Martin Lewis?

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 27/02/2024 18:39

CuttingMeOpenthenHealingMeFine · 27/02/2024 18:26

Haha shows how out of touch someone is when they think you have to buy spices in Ocado and pizza in Tesco. Tesco sell spices for £1 (so do Asda!)

All it shows is that I reached for a search engine to get prices.

Supermarkets are glaringly-bright noisy hellscapes for this autistic and I avoid them as much as possible.

I notice that the posters mocking me for using a search engine to find spice prices are strangely silent about the poster who suggested that pouch rice was cheap...

PingvsPong · 27/02/2024 18:39

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 27/02/2024 18:33

The 12 month contract is clearly with Virgin, not her employer.

I'm on an open-ended contract. My employer has just announced voluntary redundancies. Compulsory will follow if they don't get enough takers. I'm terrified because I have a mortgage and a broadband contract that I am locked into for two years.

PP said her 'contract at work' and that her 'job ends'. I've only ever heard contractors use that language because well their contract has an end date.
I've never heard of 'open-ended'. Do you mean permanent?

Usually people just say they got made redundant or lost their job with no reference to contracts of any kind.

Butterdishy · 27/02/2024 18:40

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 27/02/2024 18:26

That depends where you live and what shops you have access to.

If you drive or live within walking distance of an ALDI, maybe. If you don't drive and only have a co-op or a Spar, then £70 isn't going to get you very far.

If you've got £70 a week, do a supermarket delivery shop.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 27/02/2024 18:41

PingvsPong · 27/02/2024 18:39

PP said her 'contract at work' and that her 'job ends'. I've only ever heard contractors use that language because well their contract has an end date.
I've never heard of 'open-ended'. Do you mean permanent?

Usually people just say they got made redundant or lost their job with no reference to contracts of any kind.

There's no such thing as "permanent". Open-ended means that there's no defined finish date.

Frequency · 27/02/2024 18:42

@TheThingIsYeah I was working at the time with no hint that my job would soon vanish and that jobs in the same industry (network engineer) for my skill level and experience and in my area would become as rare as hen's teeth.

I worked from home so didn't want to take the chance of changing providers and a screw-up potentially leaving me without BB (and therefore the ability to work since my office is hundreds of miles from my home) for days/weeks/months.

And, I could afford it at the time. We needed a fast, reliable BB connection for my job and the package we were on just wasn't enough. The connection was constantly dropping out while I was in meetings. Speed and reliability were more of a concern to me than price at the time.

PingvsPong · 27/02/2024 18:42

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 27/02/2024 18:41

There's no such thing as "permanent". Open-ended means that there's no defined finish date.

That's the wording everyone uses. I'm in IT now previously in finance. It was either permanent or contract roles.
Never heard of anybody use the word 'open-ended'. I suppose in legal terms the contract could be open-ended but people refer to a 'permanent contract'.
Maybe different industries are different.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 27/02/2024 18:43

PingvsPong · 27/02/2024 18:42

That's the wording everyone uses. I'm in IT now previously in finance. It was either permanent or contract roles.
Never heard of anybody use the word 'open-ended'. I suppose in legal terms the contract could be open-ended but people refer to a 'permanent contract'.
Maybe different industries are different.

It's a higher education thing.

2dogsandabudgie · 27/02/2024 18:44

Frequency · 27/02/2024 18:15

Has it occurred to you they might have taken those on before losing their job?

I've just upgraded our wifi to Virgin's ultrafast BB for £87 a month. I'll now have to pay that out of UC when my job ends because I'm in a 12-month contract with them.

Ditto the 36-month phone contract I took out last year for £35 a month.

I could afford both of those things when I took them but will struggle now my job is ending unless I find something similar before my contract at work ends.

£87 a month for broadband? Why on earth would you pay that much?

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 27/02/2024 18:46

Butterdishy · 27/02/2024 18:40

If you've got £70 a week, do a supermarket delivery shop.

Absolutely that's what you should do.

But most families still won't change left over to stock up on garam masala Wink

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 27/02/2024 18:46

Frequency · 27/02/2024 18:42

@TheThingIsYeah I was working at the time with no hint that my job would soon vanish and that jobs in the same industry (network engineer) for my skill level and experience and in my area would become as rare as hen's teeth.

I worked from home so didn't want to take the chance of changing providers and a screw-up potentially leaving me without BB (and therefore the ability to work since my office is hundreds of miles from my home) for days/weeks/months.

And, I could afford it at the time. We needed a fast, reliable BB connection for my job and the package we were on just wasn't enough. The connection was constantly dropping out while I was in meetings. Speed and reliability were more of a concern to me than price at the time.

If network engineers aren't getting hired, we are all screwed. I think there's only Oracle DBAs and cyber security specialists that are harder to find in IT.

2dogsandabudgie · 27/02/2024 18:47

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 27/02/2024 18:39

All it shows is that I reached for a search engine to get prices.

Supermarkets are glaringly-bright noisy hellscapes for this autistic and I avoid them as much as possible.

I notice that the posters mocking me for using a search engine to find spice prices are strangely silent about the poster who suggested that pouch rice was cheap...

Edited

Pouch rice is cheap isn't it? 0.45 a pouch in Tesco.

caringcarer · 27/02/2024 18:47

This is terrible. I think people overspend over Xmas and January is a long month. I can actually recall a post on MN in January from a lady saying she had no food in house and about 8 days before payday.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 27/02/2024 18:48

2dogsandabudgie · 27/02/2024 18:44

£87 a month for broadband? Why on earth would you pay that much?

Because that's what Virgin demand for that speed on their DOCSIS connection, the alternative is BT ADSL over three miles of copper to the exchange, and CityFibre haven't rolled out to your area yet?

@Frequency Did I get the right combination of acronyms?

I did data cabling and IT rollouts into buildings that were still being built for a while.

Butterdishy · 27/02/2024 18:48

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 27/02/2024 18:46

Absolutely that's what you should do.

But most families still won't change left over to stock up on garam masala Wink

£70 a week for a family of 4, guarantee I could budget for some seasoning. I'd rather than some flavour than the empty calories of a box of cereal.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 27/02/2024 18:49

2dogsandabudgie · 27/02/2024 18:47

Pouch rice is cheap isn't it? 0.45 a pouch in Tesco.

45p for one meal component for one person.

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 27/02/2024 18:50

Butterdishy · 27/02/2024 18:48

£70 a week for a family of 4, guarantee I could budget for some seasoning. I'd rather than some flavour than the empty calories of a box of cereal.

Except the box of cereal will mean everyone gets breakfast for a few days.

You can't make a meal out of a jar of spices.

lifebeginsaftercoffee · 27/02/2024 18:52

2dogsandabudgie · 27/02/2024 18:47

Pouch rice is cheap isn't it? 0.45 a pouch in Tesco.

But you're not just going to eat dry, plain rice for dinner.

VitoCorleoneOfMNMafia · 27/02/2024 18:52

Butterdishy · 27/02/2024 18:48

£70 a week for a family of 4, guarantee I could budget for some seasoning. I'd rather than some flavour than the empty calories of a box of cereal.

When you are trying to feed children so that they have the energy to stay alive and learn and grow, there's no such thing as "empty calories", there's just "calories".

Kalevala · 27/02/2024 18:53

Jellycatspyjamas · 27/02/2024 14:09

Anyway to break mine down to feed a mother and 2 children
4 jacket potatoes 0.70p
6 eggs £1.09 so 0.18p each
900g frozen peas 0.99p so 0.23p for 3 x 80g portions

You can’t see how a frozen burger and chips might be more appealing than a jacket potatoes, eggs and peas? And I’m assuming no topping for the jacket potato or anything to make the eggs more palatable. It’s funny how people are happy to suggest unappealing, mismatched foods for others - cos beggars can’t be choosers I guess.

My mum used to make potato omelette. Pan fried sliced potato with the egg poured over.

BIossomtoes · 27/02/2024 18:53

LadyKenya · 27/02/2024 16:38

If there is a knob of butter going, then I would opt for the jacket, and peas. The egg would of course be welcome protein. That would be my choice anyday, over a ready made, shop bought pizza.

Have you seen the price of butter lately?

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