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I just learnt that black pepper is NOT made from the dried seeds of bell peppers...

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LylaLee · 21/11/2023 08:00

I'm really surprised. I wonder what else I think I 'know' which is wrong.

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Elastica23 · 21/11/2023 10:04

Green peppercorns are from the same plant as black, but are just picked early and not dried.

I didn't even know there were different types until I had a sauce with green peppercorns in, at a restaurant in my 20s. Nor that you could eat them like that. Quite a revelation.

Mrsjayy · 21/11/2023 10:10

SinnerBoy · 21/11/2023 09:38

Mrsjayy · Today 08:55

Anyway I'm not sure what capers are I thought they were a green pepper corn

They're flowers.

yes I know now I found out a couple of years back 😃

AlisonDonut · 21/11/2023 10:10

Mykittensmittens · 21/11/2023 09:43

i’ve just come back from a holiday and in the villa garden there was a beautiful pink peppercorn tree. It looked similar to a weeping willow and was covered in pink peppercorns.

It was Schinus Molle - which I think this is a different genus from the black peppercorn but the pink ones can be eaten and when crushed they smelt the same.

sadly I don’t think it’s compatible with the climate here which is why we don’t see them.

And then there is Szechuan Pepper, which is a [commonly pink] peppercorn, with a black inner seed which can be seen when the peppercorn opens. And is not a pepper, or a peppercorn but a citrus.

You eat the outside not the inside, and the plant is a prickly fucker.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 21/11/2023 10:34

SinnerBoy · 21/11/2023 09:38

Mrsjayy · Today 08:55

Anyway I'm not sure what capers are I thought they were a green pepper corn

They're flowers.

And 'capers' (the flower buds) are not the same thing as 'caper berries' (which are, indeed, the berries). A lot of people use the terms interchangeably.

Both edible, both from the same plant, but not actually the same thing.

LadyBeth · 21/11/2023 10:48

LylaLee · 21/11/2023 09:13

Don't worry, I knew all those things.

But

(1) Channel tunnel: sometimes people believe things as children and then just never reexamine those thoughts. Go to an aquarium and there's likely a 'fish tunnel' thing. A person hears 'channel tunnel', and thinks 'oh, it must be like that aquarium tunnel.' And never revisits the thought. I've worked in an engineering adjacent environment and grew up with news of them digging it so I knew it wasn't a clear tube, but others might not. I mean it's unbelievable that they've laid cable across the Atlantic. Many scientific achievements are unbelievable.

(2) Billericay and County Durham. They both 'sound' Irish. In England place names are not usually called 'county' whatever. In Ireland they are. An easy mistake to make. They are not places where famous battles took place and there's nothing really memorable about them so that people would have heard of them without a connection. They might have thought Durham and County Durham were two different places, like Gillingham.

(3) Terrorist groups as individuals. I can see how someone hears 'Al Quaeda' claimed responsibility, and think 'ok, that's the guy in charge.' It follows the naming convention Al [ Name ]. Not everyone is well educated or well read. They hear every now and again that 'a bad person has done something.' The Yorkshire ripper killed someone again, Sinn Fenn blew something up. Can't catch the bastards.

(4) Unicorns. Deer, Moose etc. Have horns. Narwhals have a single central horn. Lots of things are extinct. I can see how someone might believe they once existed in the way that dragons are analogous to dinosaurs.

I knew all those but who knows what 'unknown unknowns' are lurking?

"Billericay and County Durham. They both 'sound' Irish. In England place names are not usually called 'county' whatever. In Ireland they are. An easy mistake to make."

Sorry but Billericay and Durham most certainly do not 'sound' Irish 🤣🤣. And places are generally not called 'county' whatever too...

MrsSkylerWhite · 21/11/2023 10:50

I thought ducks ate fish for years 🤣

Hanlonsamazer · 21/11/2023 11:20

AlisonDonut · 21/11/2023 10:10

And then there is Szechuan Pepper, which is a [commonly pink] peppercorn, with a black inner seed which can be seen when the peppercorn opens. And is not a pepper, or a peppercorn but a citrus.

You eat the outside not the inside, and the plant is a prickly fucker.

I learnt this about Szechuan pepper after planting some, nurturing them for years, harvesting and drying the fruit, then throwing away the fucking husk because the black weds were so lovely and shiny. Fml. Roll on next year.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 21/11/2023 11:29

DisforDarkChocolate · 21/11/2023 08:03

I'm confused how you ever thought this. Have you never seen a whole peppercorn?

This.
OTOH I learnt only a few years ago that the dried fruit we call currants, are not currants at all, but a certain type of small grape, that came originally (or largely) from Corinth in Greece, which is where the name also came from. (Corrints, currants…)

PrincessHoneysuckle · 21/11/2023 11:35

@LylaLee also did you know that all bell peppers are the same but different levels of ripeness which is why you get green,yellow,orange and red?

SinnerBoy · 21/11/2023 11:44

Mrsjayy · Today 10:10

yes I know now I found out a couple of years back

Sorry if I seemed patronising! I found out 20 odd years ago, I don't usually pay them much attention, as I don't like them.

And thanks, Binturong !

LylaLee · 21/11/2023 12:17

LadyBeth · 21/11/2023 10:48

"Billericay and County Durham. They both 'sound' Irish. In England place names are not usually called 'county' whatever. In Ireland they are. An easy mistake to make."

Sorry but Billericay and Durham most certainly do not 'sound' Irish 🤣🤣. And places are generally not called 'county' whatever too...

County Cork is the one that springs to mind. And Billericay has the feel of Limerick, Tipperary and Kilmarnock.

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TropDrôle · 21/11/2023 12:18

I also want you all to know that bell peppers are called pepperoni in Italy. Pepperoni is not salame (yes with an e on the end) so don’t order pizza with pepperoni unless you want bell peppers.

LylaLee · 21/11/2023 12:18

PrincessHoneysuckle · 21/11/2023 11:35

@LylaLee also did you know that all bell peppers are the same but different levels of ripeness which is why you get green,yellow,orange and red?

I found that out a few years ago too. I thought they were different types for a long time.

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LylaLee · 21/11/2023 12:19

TropDrôle · 21/11/2023 12:18

I also want you all to know that bell peppers are called pepperoni in Italy. Pepperoni is not salame (yes with an e on the end) so don’t order pizza with pepperoni unless you want bell peppers.

See, I didn't know that. So what is pepperoni?

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LylaLee · 21/11/2023 12:21

MrsSkylerWhite · 21/11/2023 10:50

I thought ducks ate fish for years 🤣

Shit. Don't they? Herons do. So what are they eating. Pond weed? Algae and krill like a whale? What do swans eat then? Same as ducks?

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TropDrôle · 21/11/2023 12:23

LylaLee · 21/11/2023 12:19

See, I didn't know that. So what is pepperoni?

Bell peppers are called pepperoni in Italian. Somehow in the English speaking world we took it to mean salame.

MidnightOnceMore · 21/11/2023 12:23

LylaLee · 21/11/2023 08:37

Yes, I have. I thought they cut them open and scraped out the seeds.

I was understanding of you until this post, but a whole round peppercorn couldn't possibly be the same thing as the flat seeds from inside a pepper.

LylaLee · 21/11/2023 12:24

TropDrôle · 21/11/2023 12:23

Bell peppers are called pepperoni in Italian. Somehow in the English speaking world we took it to mean salame.

I meant what do Italians say when they want (what we call) pepperoni?

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Soshitatgifts · 21/11/2023 12:24

Sgtmajormummy · 21/11/2023 08:11

Ah, but did you know that paprika is made from the dried SKIN of bell peppers??
I didn’t until I was about 40.
Maybe you did and that was confusing you.

And this is my lesson for today! 😂I’ve never given any thought to where paprika comes from, but if I’d been asked I’d not have known. Till now 😂

LylaLee · 21/11/2023 12:25

MidnightOnceMore · 21/11/2023 12:23

I was understanding of you until this post, but a whole round peppercorn couldn't possibly be the same thing as the flat seeds from inside a pepper.

I thought they changed shape by being processed. Maybe puffing out like popcorn in an oven. The way raisins don't look like grapes, but they are.

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Alalalalalongalalalalalonglonglilong · 21/11/2023 12:34

LylaLee · 21/11/2023 12:25

I thought they changed shape by being processed. Maybe puffing out like popcorn in an oven. The way raisins don't look like grapes, but they are.

Now that you say it my friend only realised in her 40s that raisins were dried grapes!

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 21/11/2023 12:44

Billericay has the feel of Limerick, Tipperary and Kilmarnock.

I don't get that at all.

TropDrôle · 21/11/2023 12:45

LylaLee · 21/11/2023 12:24

I meant what do Italians say when they want (what we call) pepperoni?

Salame except we misspell it as salami

Thedm · 21/11/2023 12:46

But they’re peppercorns. And look nothing like bell pepper seeds at all. Sometimes I can understand the funny misunderstandings but this one… wow.

AutumnFroglets · 21/11/2023 12:46

I also thought capers were little fish like anchovies whenever I saw them on a menu.
sighs They aren't ?

I had to google peppercorn plant based on pp. I didn't realise they were vine like growing upwards as I thought they were more like a current bush shape.