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What did people actually eat in the past?

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BuffaloCauliflower · 25/09/2023 21:55

Inspired by the finding of some crockery that belonged to my Granny (born 1917) and
conversations with my DM about feeding families, I’ve been wondering a lot about how and what people ate in the past on just normal days, not fancy dinner party stuff. My Granny was an older mum, 43 when she had my DM in 1960, and DM remembers mostly simple meat and two veg type dishes. Cottage pie, casseroles, roast dinners. What was a quick easy dinner, did such a thing exist before 1970?! Egg and chips? Memories of childhood reading conjures up bread and dripp

If you were around in the 50s/60s in the U.K., what did normal family meals look like? Or even earlier maybe, pre war. What sort of things were normal prior

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DelphiniumBlue · 26/09/2023 00:27

Born 1960.
I remember eating a yogurt ( Ski or Eden Vale) for breakfast most days, then something like scrambled egg on toast for lunch and then maybe chops and veg and mash ( Smash) for supper.
If I had lunch away from home, it would be either disgusting school dinners with unidentifiable fatty grey meat ( probably pork) with meat and veg, usually boiled cabbage, or if having a packed lunch, spam sandwiches., often with lettuce or cucumber.
We had in season fruit, things like gooseberries and cherries in summer, p,ups in autumn and apples the rest of the time.
We had liver fairly often and cottage pie, macaroni cheese, and spag bol regularly. If we had roast chicken, there would be chicken soup or coronation chicken for the next few days. But often supper was something on toast or Heinz tomato soup with bread and butter. Or baked potato with cheese. Things like salmon was for weddings or big celebrations only, and steak was a birthday meal in a restaurant. No takeaways except maybe fish and chips if we were on holiday.

EmmaPaella · 26/09/2023 00:42

My DM grew up in a northern shop and recalls with slight horror things like cowheel pie, tripe, liver and bacon, ribs and cabbage. They had a roast on a Saturday evening and a big breakfast after church on a Sunday because they weren’t allowed to eat before mass (?). Her Grandma had a range in her tiny house with an enormous tea pot continually on it which produced very strong stewed tea. I don’t think she was a fan of this sort of diet as she became vegetarian as soon as she left home in 1968 and now only drinks coffee. I however loved my Gran’s meat and potato pie!

I loved Nella Last’s war diaries for the descriptions of the food Nella makes, some of it quite inventive with whatever is around. There is also a good cookbook called the Ministry of Food about wartime cooking.

Gonksmum · 26/09/2023 00:45

I grew up in the 70s and ate quite a bit of convenience food - lots of tinned and frozen stuff. My favourites were frozen burgers, fish fingers and BirdsEye pies. Also loved dried mashed potato from M&S or Yeoman brand. Tinned soup was popular, tinned beans, peas, carrots etc. Desserts were frozen mousses or Heinz sponge puds. Chips were always fried in lard. Freshly cooked meals about once or twice a week: hot pot, chops, roast on a Sunday. Yes, chicken was far less popular. Far fewer snacks - we had jam or meat paste sandwiches if hungry. I did eat a ridiculously amount of sweets and ice lollies/ ice creams though, but usually in the summer hols. I was very thin, as most kids were then. Much more playing outside was the reason for this, I imagine.

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JFDIYOLO · 26/09/2023 00:54

Is it one of The Dark Is Rising series? ❣️

JFDIYOLO · 26/09/2023 01:00

Nanna used to give us bread and dripping. I'm a veggie but ohhhhhhh I remember it was gorgeous. And full English breakfast fry up. And at tea there was always a bowl of lettuce. Salad cream. Coffee walnut cake from the shop.

Her mother often served tongue. Which looked like ... a tongue. And something called bath chap. And faggots.

Mum was a bit adventurous with cooking in the 70s - Dad was older and he'd travelled so we had a lot of pasta, curry, quiche - and fondue. Not cheese or chocolate but a vat of boiling oil on the table we children would spear bits of meat on and plunge in to cook.

givemeasunnyday · 26/09/2023 01:18

My mum didn't like milk puddings so we never had them but they were a staple at school at least until the early 80s - tapioca, semolina, rice pudding, sago pudding. All revolting IMO.

My Mum made a lot of milk puddings, and I loved them all - despite hating milk! I wouldn't mind having a go at some now. Mum made her rice pudding on the stove, not in the oven, and she was still giving it to me for lunch up until around 10 years ago. I have tried making it, but can't seem to get it as creamy as hers was.

givemeasunnyday · 26/09/2023 01:28

Objectrelations · 25/09/2023 23:59

God this food sounds awful to the modern sensibilities!!

I don't eat very differently to how I ate when I was at home in the 60s/70s, although I don't eat much meat - however we weren't a big meat eating family.

We didn't eat offal though - other than my father had a liking for tripe, so Mum would cook it occasionally (and I would stay well away, oh the smell!!).

Fish or chicken, or sometimes a mince based dish, with vegetables is my standard fare, and I make casseroles in winter.

SabrinaThwaite · 26/09/2023 01:30

Best Christmas sandwiches are made with leftover turkey in white bread slathered with dripping.

In the 70s it was mostly meat and two veg (one of which was potatoes - we always had a huge sack of them in the garage - others being spring greens, runner beans, peas, carrots, leeks, broccoli, cauliflower and always bastarding sprouts).

Grilled chops, neck of lamb stew, stuffed breast of lamb, liver with onion gravy, steak and kidney pudding, boiled ham. Sometimes fish or fish fingers with parsley sauce. Egg and chips as a quick meal. Fish on a Friday.

A roast on Sunday (beef, lamb or pork - occasionally chicken), with leftover meat being minced for a cottage or shepherds pie.

Always a proper pudding - treacle tart, queen of puddings, lemon meringue pie, tapioca, apple pie or apple crumble. Butterscotch Angel Delight, Arctic roll or a Ski yoghurt was a treat.

Parents used to buy half a pig for the freezer, which meant you got half a pigs head which was made into brawn.

No rice or pasta or spices or foreign vegetables - no peppers, chillies, courgettes, aubergines etc. And salad only about twice a year in the summer.

echt · 26/09/2023 01:37

If you fancy an historical look at English eating, the peerless "The Englishman's Food - Five Centuries of English Diet" by JC Drummond and Anne Wilbraham.

A wonderful read.

EBearhug · 26/09/2023 02:20

I like how you're all talking about these things like they're in the past...

I can do traditional farmhouse cooking. It's what I grew up with. Our main recipe book was Mrs Beeton.

I often don't cook thst way, as I live alone, but I like faggots, and liver and onion, and chops, and I do a mean roast. Not that fond of tongue, and I don't need brawn in my life. But I can do a good stew, I'm good at baking. I made bread by hand yesterday. If I had raw milk, I could warm it to get the clotted cream off it (though I don't have a Rayburn as we did in my childhood.) I can pluck and draw a pheasant. I mostly cook seasonal fruit and veg. I sometimes make jam and chutney and things. Never salted beans, though, as we had a freezer by my childhood.

I also do curries and chillies and stirfries and use ingredients that didn't exist in my childhood (at least, not in Britain.) But I can do most of the stuff Granny and Mum used to do.

As for stuff in aspic - never see it here, but any German supermarket will have it at the deli counter, rolled ham or mixed vegetables in aspic, in a loaf tin, then you buy it by the slice to go with your bread at breakfast. It looks really pretty, button mushrooms and different coloured bell peppers and pimento-stuffed olives, sliced thin and looking like jewels in the clear jelly. You can also buy thick cut bacon that's basically all fat and no meat there.

grannyjacob · 26/09/2023 03:06

I was born in ‘54, moved back to Scotland when I was three. Mum was a widow, her/I lived in a tenement flat above her Mum/Dad. Mum really only cooked at the weekends because of working full time. Granny did the majority of the food shopping, there was a big Co-Op just a ten minute walk away, she went there most days of the week. The yearly dividend usually bought me new clothes for school. She also used a local butcher, fishmonger, greengrocer.
There were a few meals that only Gran/Grandad ate - tripe being one. Honestly, I’m 69 and can still smell it! They cooked it in milk. Totally bowfin 🤢 Lambs liver was another, I hated it then, really enjoy it now once in a while.
Certain meals always appeared on certain days, e.g. home made soup was a Friday, even though we weren’t RC. It was usually made with flank mutton, always red lentils, never barley, lots of tatties, carrots, neep and leek.
Fish, usually lemon sole was a regular meal, accompanied by chips cooked in beef dripping or lard in a proper chip pan, usually had tinned garden peas with it as well.
Beef stew or mince, cooked with onions, carrots, neep accompanied by mashed tatties and cabbage.
Butcher sausages, usually beef, stewed with mega amounts of onions. Mashed tatties, carrots and cabbage.
Pork chops or bacon with chips, fried egg and Heinz beans. Gammon steak with chips, peas and the obligatory tinned pineapple ring.
Macaroni cheese (mature Cheddar) is the only pasta dish I remember eating as a child. Also had Edam and Gouda, but no other cheeses. Didn’t have lasagne, burgers, pizza, chilli, moussaka, Chinese, Indian, Italian food, duck, venison - all foods I now take for granted and didn’t have until at least my 20s.
No rice dishes either except rice pudding once in a while in the colder months. No avocados, peppers, olives, courgette, mushrooms, broccoli, sweet spuds or any of the other veg that I eat every week now.
Only fresh fruit I remember eating regularly is apples, and lots of straw/raspberries, plums, rhubarb (dipped in sugar) when in season. Also wee satsumas/mandarins but only at Christmas. Occasionally grapes. Never anything exotic like fresh mango, pineapple, limes or lemons.
We rarely had pudding through the week, if we did it would be something very easy like tinned fruit. There was an ice cream shop near us, in summer once I was old enough to be trusted not to drop it, I’d be sent with a bowl to buy us all ice cream. Best ice cream I’ve ever tasted.
Saturday, Mum/Gran always went downtown window/shopping so the meal that night was often an easily cooked/uncooked/ready cooked one. Tinned salmon or butcher bought boiled ham with salad veg - only tomatoes, cucumber and tasteless lettuce, nothing fancy like peppers or spring onions. Sometimes with boiled new tatties, or with bread/butter. Heinz salad cream, never mayo. Meat pies, beans and chips. Fish and chips, mushy peas from the local chip shop, with pickled beetroot and lots of Heinz tomato sauce for me.
Sundays, maybe once a month, we had roast chicken, roast tatties. Lots of the usual carrots and oddly, the only meal I ever remember having cauliflower with. Really tasty gravy.
Only ever had Yorkie puds when we visited family in England every year. I used to ask for them every day, no idea why Mum or Gran never made them back home.
Mum loved tongue, so that was at least once a month. I well remember finding it fascinating watching her peel the outer layer away. Would have this with boiled tatties and the usual veg.
Both the chicken and the tongue would usually do two meals for the four of us, hot the first day, cold the second. Even if there was any more left, we couldn’t really keep it past that as we didn’t have a fridge until I was 11. Or a TV.
As for snacks, when I got home from school in the afternoon, Gran would make me a sandwich to “keep me going”. Embarrassed to write this, but two favourites were sugar and tomato sauce. Not together I hasten to add. Only used butter, never margarine and only white bread, usually what is known as plain up here, has wonderful chewy crusts. In winter, the bread would be toasted in front of the open fire, then liberally covered in honey. My granny loved honey, especially bought still on the comb. Or the toast would be slathered in homemade rhubarb and ginger jam that one of my Granny’s sisters made every year. It’s still my favourite jam.
Really didn’t eat a lot of sweets, crisps, etc. so they did seem like a treat when I got them. Same with cakes. There was always biscuits though usually nothing fancy. I remember thinking Jaffa cakes tasted wonderful the first time I had them.
Breakfasts through the week/Saturdays was usually toast, with e.g. scrambled or boiled egg. Occasionally had porridge, but never cereal. It was just something that was never bought. Sundays was nearly always a full cooked b’fast. Bacon, sausage, eggs.
Overall, it was a pretty healthy diet. Yes, a lot of meat but also lots of fresh veg and fruit if only of a limited variety. No convenience foods except for the occasional fish and chips. Few tinned or packeted foods. No frozen food.
Like others have said, I too was a thin child, as were all my peers. But then, we played outside a lot, even in winter. Also walked everywhere or got a bus if going further afield.

MaidOfSteel · 26/09/2023 03:10

My mam (and me & my sibling) was brought up on things like ham hock soup. Ham, gammon or bacon shanks used to be very cheap and, though smelling disgusting while boiling, made the most delicious soups, with the addition of soaked red lentils, chopped potatoes, cartots and turnip etc.

Shadypaws23 · 26/09/2023 03:16

@EBearhug if you have Instagram (I think you can see it without!) this account does all meals called one pot, one portion
I use it a lot for ideas as also live alone, when I don't want to batch cook

https://instagram.com/goodfoodmood__?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZAA*===*

This is my fave website which sort of replicates that cosy feeling from stuff like beef stew etc
https://www.dontgobaconmyheart.co.uk

calyxx · 26/09/2023 03:48

Scrambled eggs
Tinned sardines on toast
Stew
Haddock
Fried fish
Mutton
Veg- Green beans, marrow, lettuce
Puddings- blancmange, semolina

Speedweed · 26/09/2023 05:42

My mum talked about having picnics on a beach with her mum in the fifties,, and my grandmother used to bring a bread knife, a butter knife and a tea towel in her handbag, then buy a fresh loaf and a pat of butter, and that was the picnic.

Interestingly, my grandmother also used to budget for a third of the family income being spent on food (other thirds on rent and bills/general expenditure). It just shows how expensive food was back then.

BarbaraofSeville · 26/09/2023 05:50

This is the era that gave us the much derided Mumsnet chicken. Note there's not a lot of chicken mentioned as it was too expensive, but when people had them (or any roast really) the meat had to do 2/3/4 days worth of meals. So as well as the Sunday roast, it would do a pie on Monday and something like soup on Tuesday.

All leftovers had to be used, so these would often be a start of the 'quick easy dinner' but remember that far fewer women worked, so would have more time to cook, which they had to because ready meals didn't really exist or were unaffordable.

A lot of meals that people now buy ready made, or make from scratch themselves used to be 'leftover meals'. You'd never set off to make a shepherd's pie from scratch, that's what you'd make on Monday with the leftover roast lamb, veg and gravy, topped with mashed potato, which you might make fresh if you didn't have enough leftover from Sunday.

Yorkshire puddings were served with gravy as a starter so you were less hungry for the main meal. I remember having these in pubs on special occasions and that would have been the 1970s or early 1980s.

If we had older relatives visiting, we'd serve them 'salad' which was ham, Wensleydale (which seemed to be the only cheese we ever had), basic lettuce and a tomato. Perhaps with picallili. Then scones/cake.

We also had 'corned beef hash' which I've later learned wasn't really like what other people call CBH, as it was a stew with gravy, carrots, onions and potatoes rather than the drier, fried CB, onions and potatoes, sometimes topped with a fried egg that others talk about.

We had asparagus growing in our garden in the 1970s but we didn't eat it, we just let it grow into tall 'ferns'. DM said that she thought people did eat it, but we didn't know what to do with it so didn't.

garlictwist · 26/09/2023 06:11

LunaNorth · 25/09/2023 22:06

Bread and dripping was certainly a thing - I used to have it, sprinkled with salt, in the 1980s!

I’ve remembered a few more - a pan of stew with suet dumplings, pan haggerty and stuffed marrow.

Breakfast was toast done on a fork in front of the fire, maybe a boiled egg. I think my dad had Weetabix, too. Every meal was washed down with tea and there was always a plate of bread and butter on the table.

Dad used to talk about having a bag of winkles, or cockles and mussels, or a fresh boiled crab, with a ton of bread and butter.

I was around in the 80s and have never heard of bread and dripping. What is it?

iloveeverykindofcat · 26/09/2023 06:14

Well my family is Arab so

Biriani, often with raisins
Dolma (of vine leafs, peppers, mushrooms)
Mesgouf
Goat (which is reffered to as lamb, but its definitely goat)
Hummus
Baklava
Kibbe
Mezze of olives, bread, dates etc.

During war and sanctions - a lot tinned food from storage and fruit from the garden (grandparents were pretty rich tbh).

BarbaraofSeville · 26/09/2023 06:15

Bread with dripping on.

If you're saying you don't know what dripping is, it's the fat that drips off meat when it's cooked, usually beef, which is also used for frying in fish and chip shops in many areas. You can buy refined versions and obviously pig dripping aka lard but, as everything was used, the dripping from home cooked meat would be spread on bread for lunch usually, or made into sandwiches for packed lunches.

MidnightOnceMore · 26/09/2023 06:17

garlictwist · 26/09/2023 06:11

I was around in the 80s and have never heard of bread and dripping. What is it?

Dripping is fat that comes out of roast meat, often beef but not exclusively, spread on bread as you would butter (but thickly spread).

TodayInahurry · 26/09/2023 06:27

Food was much more expensive, people were taught how to cook, people often grew more vegetables than now, there was not so much tinned and frozen food, people often did not have fridges and freezers.

no McDonalds, Costa Coffee etc and no takeaways. Most people were slim as they were not living on fat rich, highly processed foods

greenacrylicpaint · 26/09/2023 06:30

potatos & cabbage
mostly boiled. sometimes as stew.
meat only the first 2 weeks after pay day.

AuntieMarys · 26/09/2023 06:35

We had a lot of offal...liver, kidneys and heart....which I still love! Rabbit too.
Masses of vegetables as dad had an allotment. My mum was very excited by Birds Eye frozen foods in the late 60s as she could do less cooking from scratch. I fondly remember their beefburgers, roast beef in gravy and chicken pies

Nannyfannybanny · 26/09/2023 06:45

Experts say the post war diet was the most healthy. My late parents didn't have a fridge till the late 60s. Lived in a village,mum went shopping daily. By then we had a mobile fish and chips van come round on a Friday. We didn't eat crap or snack. We had a sort of fizzy, parents made proper ginger beer and lemonade. It used to go bang in the larder! To this day, I can't bear coke, pepsi, even diet drinks are way too sweet. We also walked everywhere,that kept us slim. Till the mid 60s only the Dr and district nurse had phones and cars. We walked to the phone box.

Nannyfannybanny · 26/09/2023 06:47

I pretty much cook from scratch now, I don't eat meat. My portion sizes are smaller now I have got older. I still make Birds Custard, can't stand the wishy ready made stuff