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Best family dog?

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dh8892 · 28/08/2023 10:42

We are looking at getting a dog for our family.

I WFH 3 days a week, the rest of the time it’s me & our DS (with DH at work during the week).

We would love a dog to add to our family and to give our DS a pet to grow up with (he’s 2).

We are an active household, enjoy walks and bike rides but also don’t think a breed that requires hours of exercise a day would work either because we could only give multiple hours at the weekend (weekdays would be walks twice a day).

Any suggestions/recommendations on breeds before we start doing our research?

TIA 🙂

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TenderChicken · 23/12/2023 13:45

I'm going to join the "don't do it!" chorus.

Our dog was 11 months old when our first baby was born. We had a second baby shortly after. So they have all literally grown up together.

But it's an uneasy relationship. The children, even now at 6 and 7, struggle to remember that dogs don't like hugs, etc. They don't understand dog behaviour much at all, despite living with one their whole lives and having parents who try to explain. They are just a bit too little still. My kids have now reached the age where they have friends over after school, so I now have to manage those relationships as well. Some kids are actively scared of the dog.

The dog tolerates the kids well, but it really is tolerating. She's a super friendly gundog breed, but she's still a dog. She has a deep relationship with DH and I because we understand her.

Also, dogs are such a tie. I hope you have family who will dog-sit. Want to go out for the day to a farm park or amusement park? Can't, have a dog. Want to go into the city for a day out? Can't, have a dog. The dog population has exploded in the last 10 years and it is so much harder to find local kennels, etc and many wont take dogs just for the day anymore because financially it doesn't make sense with the high demand.

And finally, my dog is currently dying of cancer. You never know when they're going to go. But I find having a 6 and 7 year old stressful enough without adding this to the mix :(

We also have two cats. The cats have been much more accessible pets for the children. The cats just run away when they're fed up with kids. We can leave them for the day. It's easy to find a cat sitter. Highly recommend!

pastypirate · 23/12/2023 13:46

Wait until your ds will walk the dog without moaning each day.

pastypirate · 23/12/2023 13:46

That said u got my show cocker when dd2 was 2 and it's been fine. My dds adore him and he's an easy dog who is very affectionate and cuddly.

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Whattheheckcarer · 23/12/2023 13:48

cheeseandbiscuitsplease · 28/08/2023 10:51

We've got 2 springer spaniels, Uncle and nephew. The older one is calmer in the house (7 and 4yrs) and the little one is a bit dafter but totally adorable.
We take them out for 2 x one and a half hour walks a day. They are lively lovely dogs who add loads to our family. Beautiful looking dogs too.
Quite trying but we have a good boarding house near us and they come on holidays etc with us.

Did you read the OP? 🤣 Three hours walking is quite a lot.

Whattheheckcarer · 23/12/2023 13:49

bettynutkins · 28/08/2023 10:58

My mum has a labradoodle. She's fairly big but is absolutely lovely. Great temperament. Brilliant around kids of all ages. Great on long walks happy with shorter walks if needed. She's really lovely and I'd want one if I was getting a dog.

You're brave ... mentioning a doodle on here, but I agree with you.

FloofCloud · 23/12/2023 14:10

Depends on the dog, which is obviously not an easy thing to predict, and your commitment/capacity to get up at night for toileting, sleeping issues etc. Personally I'd leave it longer with a 2 year old, and get a dog that fits your needs, so don't get a border collie or similar if you can't walk a lot, bigger dogs need more garden / larger house space. Terriers can be biters ... loads to consider - we have a Samoyed and adore her. She's a great family dog (kids tween/teen) needs attention(house never empty more than an hour or two - DH and I wfh mostly), needs lots of social time, plenty of walks and runs (DH loves this and takes her running a few times a week, long walks each day, plus she is in the garden a lot), plenty of cool places for her to sleep. All that fits in our world... and hers too so chose for needs and not for cuteness (otherwise everyone would have a Samoyed 😝)

sheselectric24 · 23/12/2023 14:36

We got a golden retriever when my youngest was 2. It wasn't intentional as such. We were asked to look after her temporarily and train her as her owner was struggling to. I was asked because I was involved in guide dogs and was friends with a breeder. Anyway we ended up keeping her.

She has been the best dog of my life. She is calm and well behaved and soft and just wonderful with everyone.

When we first took her on she had never been trained on lead or off lead and had no recall or manners. We got her in her teenage stage and she was challenging at times.
She was easy to train but you have to be very firm and very consistent because these are big clumsy dogs with potential for trouble. Goldens are said to be soft and good family dogs and they absolutely are, but only with lots of work. People forget they are working breeds who need plenty of exercise and stimulation and a firm hand. Mine has never chewed, mouthed or had accidents in the house but others I know have been nightmares chewing and mouthing and hard to toilet train.

It wasn't difficult for me to care and train ours with small children but that's because it was kind of like my job and I only worked very part time. My youngest dd at 2 was used to walking and being outside and my dh is able to take dog to work where she can have freedom of a huge indoor and outdoor area. We live and work rurally so being outside in fields is part of our life. I think it would be a struggle if we lived in a city or had a busy schedule.

Consider that you would need to give them a good few hours a day walking and mental stimulation. How would that fit in.

Dogs are very expensive too. Food, insurance, grooming etc and the vet bills even with insurance will make your eyes water.

They are very tying as well. You can't just go for a family day out on a whim and if you are enjoying an activity with dc you can't decide to stay longer or have another drink for example as you have to get home to the dog. Your whole life has to be planned around the dog and holiday planning is a lot harder and often more expensive as you need boarding. I think people do underestimate how tying they are. Imagine going for a play date and trip to the park, then the other person asks if you want to stop for a coffee as it's a nice summer evening and the dc are playing great together and you are getting a bit of peace and able to chat to an adult.....nope sorry got to get home to the dog.

However, if you have the time, commitment, money and patience goldens will be the best dog you ever have and will bring so much happiness to your life.,

Woodraff65 · 23/12/2023 14:39

Westie
Border terrier
Pomeranian

ChateauDuMont · 23/12/2023 14:49

CassiniG · 03/09/2023 10:33

I've got loads of dogs but just one dog requires dedication and selflessness in order to care for and be responsible for the dog.

Your lifestyle set up means the dog would be an accessory and that's not really ideal at the moment whilst you have a toddler as naturally you will put the toddlers needs first.

I agree.

Violinist64 · 23/12/2023 14:54

A lot of people near me have Miniature Schnauzers. They make very good pets because they are not too big, don't moult, adapt to the amount of exercise their families are able to give them and are generally placid with calm, friendly natures.

Moveoverdarlin · 23/12/2023 14:56

Riverlee · 23/12/2023 13:16

Labradors are often cited as good family dogs. However, the puppy stage is Hard Work and it’s Like having another baby in the household. Mine is coming up for 18 months and is now calming down.

Therefore I would look at rescue for an older, dog that has got through the puppy and teenage stages. However, be aware that dogs don’t come ready formed and every interaction is a training session.

I needed to hear this. We have 1 year old lab and it’s been hard, hard work. Our lifestyle suits having a dog, we live rurally with loads of space and I WFH, but those first three months were a killer. She has chewed hundreds of pounds with of trainers, throws, cushions, blankets etc. walking her in this weather means she’s filthy everyday and keeping on top of the dirty floors is a full time job. I love her so much, she’s a huge asset to our family. But you need to consider the financial strain, the wear and tear on the house and the loss of freedom. You can’t just go out all day anymore. As others have said, I would wait until your child is a bit older.

KenAdams · 23/12/2023 14:58

Oioicaptain · 28/08/2023 11:14

Cavalier king Charles. We got one because we had the same requirements. They can survive on 2x 20 mins walk a day, although can equally do 2-3 hours on a weekend. They are very gentle with children and cats. They have few behavioural problems and are just very chilled out and easy.
However, they are quite clingy/lap dogs. Our last one wasn't but our new puppy is. They suit environments where they are not left for hours home alone. They are also prone to mitral valve heart disease, so I would only recommend purchasing one from a breeder where they confirm to the new breeding standards from the Kennel Club view their heart clear scheme. This has been shown to reduce MVD incidence by 75%. There are lots of details online. Expect to pay £2-3k for a heart tested puppy. However this can save a lot of money and heartbreak further down the line.

Other dog options could be cocker spaniel (although they can be prone to rage (esp red ones) and working cockers need masses of exercise (around 2 hours a day).

Beagles are another option for a good family friendly dog. They need more exercise than Cavis though.

Always pick the dog that fits best with your lifestyle and then get the healthiest version that you can, according to my vet.

RSPCA has loads of good advice on how to avoid unwittingly buying from a puppy farm.
Also avoid buying from pets4homes type websites as many are from puppy farms.
Avoid Douglas Hall Kennels and Kelly's Kennels as both are massive licensed puppy farms in Ireland that export to the UK via a loop hole in pet shop licensing.
Champdogs online is a good starting point as are KC assured breeders.
KC registered dogs(as opposed to assured breeders) means nothing in terms of quality. Anyone can register their dogs there. Don't be taken in by that.
Also, most breeders will have DNA tests done on their dogs. However, these are often confined to specific easily tested conditions limited to one faulty gene. Polygenetic conditions (where lots of genes are involved) can cause serious conditions and cannot be ruled out by DNA tests. So again, if you see an advert for a KC registered DNA tested dog, it does not mean that that dog has been screened for the particular conditions that might affect your chosen breed the most. So do your research and find a good breeder.

Research has shown that cross breeds are not generally healthier than pure breds. With cross breeds it can be a bit more pot luck which parent they take after the most. So if with a cocker poo, you might get one that takes after the working cocker side more and needs more exercise. Just something to be aware of if you have stringent requirements.

I'd also recommend a cavalier but pay attention to all of this.

Or a show cocker.

BettyUnderswoob · 23/12/2023 15:06

Sharing the golden retriever love. They are perfect pets. Mine is 9 now and is a big, soft affectionate lump.
Loves being outside and exploring, too.

Best family dog?
partystress · 23/12/2023 15:06

We have just said goodbye to our Westie, who joined us when DD was 4, and DD is now 20. She was the perfect family pet. Up for long walks, but could manage with shorter ones, and very tolerant of DC and their friends dressing her up and involving her in their games. Affectionate to the very end.

We had a large Goldendoodle already who we got just as DD turned 3. She was a gorgeous, gentle dog, but too strong for the DC to walk. Plus her size intimidated some of their friends. We’d always planned to have a second dog, and when we decided to go for a small dog, Westies kept coming up as big personalities in small packages.

So I would be recommending a Westie, but also maybe to leave it a few more months until your toddler is able to understand the need to give it space.

Redlarge · 23/12/2023 15:07

Ive had loads of dogs. Loved them all to bits but the best and easiest breed we had in terms of behaviour, food,hair, temperament was a yorkie.

Ilovelurchers · 23/12/2023 15:08

oakleaffy · 23/12/2023 13:20

No reputable rescue will consider a dog with a toddler or young child for obvious reasons.
The overseas rescues do, and this can really backfire, on both dog and child.

We got our first family dog from RSPCA who recommended a Lurcher Puppy - it was a superb match, and I am forever grateful to the manageress for recommending her to us...I'd definitely not have chosen a Lurcher puppy left to my own devices.
Son was nine and she was a superb companion for 12 years.

I came on to suggest lurcher too, though of course the term covers loads of different crosses (it's a term for any dog crossed with a sighthound - usually greyhound or whippet).

Something like a greyhound collie cross might suit you well, or something with Bedlington in it maybe?

Full greyhounds are also marvellous family pets as they are lazy and relatively low maintenance (before anybody jumps on me, of course all dogs need regular walks and lots of care etc, but greyhounds are happier with shorter walks than many, and in my extensive experience quite happy just to chill a lot of the time while the family gets on with other stuff.

That said they aren't the brightest, and have a strong prey drive so many people never get to the point where they can walk them off the lead.

Basically most of us will recommend our preferred breeds (within reason) because we don't know exactly how active you are, how big your home is, how much you want to spend, how houseproud you are, etc etc.

If you have friends with dogs, maybe spending time around different breeds would be good to see what suits?

I too would definitely wait a few years, till your son is 5 or 6 at least. Older if he is an impulsive child and may bother the pet.

oakleaffy · 23/12/2023 15:16

Ilovelurchers · 23/12/2023 15:08

I came on to suggest lurcher too, though of course the term covers loads of different crosses (it's a term for any dog crossed with a sighthound - usually greyhound or whippet).

Something like a greyhound collie cross might suit you well, or something with Bedlington in it maybe?

Full greyhounds are also marvellous family pets as they are lazy and relatively low maintenance (before anybody jumps on me, of course all dogs need regular walks and lots of care etc, but greyhounds are happier with shorter walks than many, and in my extensive experience quite happy just to chill a lot of the time while the family gets on with other stuff.

That said they aren't the brightest, and have a strong prey drive so many people never get to the point where they can walk them off the lead.

Basically most of us will recommend our preferred breeds (within reason) because we don't know exactly how active you are, how big your home is, how much you want to spend, how houseproud you are, etc etc.

If you have friends with dogs, maybe spending time around different breeds would be good to see what suits?

I too would definitely wait a few years, till your son is 5 or 6 at least. Older if he is an impulsive child and may bother the pet.

Lurchers as you say have a myriad crosses
I think ours has a dash of Collie due to ease of training- She was a dream to train ( at 12 weeks)
She got a bit teenageish at 12 months- but easily sorted with more recall and rewards
A lovely girl.
She was broken coated under 22” to shoulder.
Very gentle.

sheselectric24 · 23/12/2023 15:17

BettyUnderswoob · 23/12/2023 15:06

Sharing the golden retriever love. They are perfect pets. Mine is 9 now and is a big, soft affectionate lump.
Loves being outside and exploring, too.

You have stolen my dog. Never seen one so similar to mine. I thought it was a picture of mine at first

PinkMimosa · 23/12/2023 15:20

What did you did you decide in the end @dh8892

Redlarge · 23/12/2023 15:58

BettyUnderswoob · 23/12/2023 15:06

Sharing the golden retriever love. They are perfect pets. Mine is 9 now and is a big, soft affectionate lump.
Loves being outside and exploring, too.

Awww that little smiling face. They are just furry humans in my mind. Lovely xxx

TitaniasAss · 23/12/2023 16:19

Labradors are clowns and will bring you years of joy. If you were to get one like mine he would also bring you years of vet bills from the random shite he's eaten over the years, but god they are just the best dogs on earth.

Having said all that, I would wait until your DD is older. Puppies are such hard work.

sebanna · 23/12/2023 16:33

We got an eight week old golden retriever when my twins were two years old. The advantage of this was he learnt in the first week, when he was still really small, to be gentle round them as they were really easy to knock over. He's always been really good round children.

orangeblosssom · 23/12/2023 17:27

I think you should get a cat Grin

QueenBitch666 · 23/12/2023 19:11

Your child is too young to be around a puppy. Wait until he's older
There's a reason why rescues won't let families with young children adopt animals

QueenBitch666 · 23/12/2023 19:14

Fairymother · 28/08/2023 11:47

Have you looked at rescues? Usually they can give you pretty detailed info on the dogs temperament and will be able to advise which dog would suit your families needs best. This would always be my starting point.
If you cant find a suitable dog there, then you can still look elsewhere.

Not sure why people keep recommending breeds that suffer with such terrible health problems (cavalier). Make sure you research properly, before you make a decision.

Edited

Rescues have a lower limit for adoption. Lots of animals are given up ( dumped ) from families who buy companion animals for children