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Dodgy British accents in American programmes

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rugbychick1 · 23/06/2023 14:04

I'm currently recovering from surgery and binge watching "Bones" for the first time. Why do the accents for any British characters all sound the same? Now I've noticed it, why can't I un notice it?

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ChocChipHandbag · 26/06/2023 15:57

Oh, @CarolinaInTheMorning don’t Americans also refer to a “pinky toe”? I don’t think we do. They took the Scottish pinky and ran with it (literally, ha ha).

ErrolTheDragon · 26/06/2023 16:05

Location continuity doesn't matter to the producers/directors, they are making a show for entertainment, not a travelogue. 99.9% of the audience will neither know nor care.

It's quite fun when you notice location dislocations. Eg in Brideshead Revisited from the painted room at castle Howard straight into the fernery at Tatton Park (or perhaps the other way round). There was a comedy series A Very Peculiar Practice set in a uni medical centre which was extra funny if you'd been to Birmingham.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/06/2023 16:12

Even within a country the accents can be dreadful. In Shetland only Steven Robertson is a Shetlander and the rest of the (Scottish) main cast don't even try to modify their accents, beyond saying Ler'ick for Lerwick.

I guess there are a limited number of actors from Shetland and it's probably not an easy accent. Of course not all the main cast were meant to be local eg Tosh.
Otoh the Shetland kept breaking through when Robertson attempted some sort of Lancashire accent in The Bay.

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CarolinaInTheMorning · 26/06/2023 16:16

ChocChipHandbag · 26/06/2023 15:57

Oh, @CarolinaInTheMorning don’t Americans also refer to a “pinky toe”? I don’t think we do. They took the Scottish pinky and ran with it (literally, ha ha).

Oh yes, "pinky toe" is definitely a thing here in the US. Smile

ChocChipHandbag · 26/06/2023 16:20

CarolinaInTheMorning · 26/06/2023 16:16

Oh yes, "pinky toe" is definitely a thing here in the US. Smile

We just call it our “wee toe”.

tabulahrasa · 26/06/2023 16:24

ChocChipHandbag · 26/06/2023 15:23

I take your point, it’s a long time since I read it. However, I’m not sure if you are Scottish yourself, but I would not say that Trainspotting was written in “Scots”, rather it’s written in the Scottish vernacular /slang of English that is specific to the central belt of Scotland (and a specific social class within that area, in informal situations only). Scots is a step further than that, much more archaic-sounding (think Rabbie Burns) and when I hear or read it (now that it’s been kind of resurrected by the SNP and is used in formal speeches and documents) I do not recognise it as the dialect that I grew up surrounded by. That said, a quick Google reveals that there is a LOT of academic debate about the dividing lines between dialect and language and what “Scots” really is. All I can say is that I can code -switch into that Trainspotting language myself and I do not consider myself a “Scots speaker”.

I was using Scots for ease of use tbh, I don’t know whether Welsh’s intent is Scots or accented English... but Edinburgh definitely has Scots words ken being the most obvious, lol.

I am Scottish and I don’t think people realise how much Scots they do use, words and grammar - because they’re told it’s an accent or slang and it’s discouraged....

SinnerBoy · 26/06/2023 16:24

Tynesider

Michael Caine's accent is explained in the film.

But it's a pretty weak explanation, he's not likely to have lost a Geordie accent and turned into a Cockney in a few years.

Goldenbear · 26/06/2023 16:32

I think Renee Zellweger's British accent in Bridget Jones was pretty good. I had work experience at a big publishing house around the time it came out and that was a typical accent. Particularly, over 20 years ago in the home counties as it wasn't as diverse then.

ODFOx · 26/06/2023 16:42

Does it work both ways? Do British actors in US sound like Dick Van Dyke to them?

Watching Kelly Reilly as Beth Dutton in Yellowstone it never occurred to me at all that she was English. Did American people notice?

I watched Pride and Prejudice recently and it threw me to recognise her as Caroline Bingley with a cut crystal accent.

Tynesider007 · 26/06/2023 17:55

SinnerBoy · 26/06/2023 16:24

Tynesider

Michael Caine's accent is explained in the film.

But it's a pretty weak explanation, he's not likely to have lost a Geordie accent and turned into a Cockney in a few years.

Presumably they tried him doing an accent and he couldn't. Better as I was than a Dick van Dyke style atrocity.

It's a classic and wouldn't have been the same film without him.

SinnerBoy · 26/06/2023 20:41

Presumably they tried him doing an accent and he couldn't. Better as I was than a Dick van Dyke style atrocity. It's a classic and wouldn't have been the same film without him.

Oh, I don't disagree, just having a minor whinge!

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