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Someone reassure me about driving in France please

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zippyswife · 02/08/2022 08:08

We are going on a family holiday to France, dh now can’t go due to commitments with his parents. We go to France most years but he has always driven (it’s been about 10 years since I’ve driven in France). I do most of the driving here and am comfortable driving places I don’t know/long distances/motorways but feel so daunted by the prospect of driving in France. I’m scared I’ll go the wrong way on a roundabout or drive on the wrong side etc! Not sure if I should cancel the holiday but I’d lose the money and dcs would be gutted. Just wanted some advice/reassurance I guess. It’s an 8 hour drive in France to campsite and we’re staying overnight half way down. On the return journey I’d be doing it in a day.

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CornedBeef451 · 02/08/2022 10:13

I haven't been for a few years but found driving in France to be pretty straight forward.

We were both occasionally bamboozled by unclear road markings when we were really tired but nothing too hard, just took an extra few seconds to pull away at a junction.

Hope you have a lovely time!

CornedBeef451 · 02/08/2022 10:15

Just thought, driving around the ring road around Paris was a bit scary as the cars come from all sides but that was less about being on the wrong side of the road and more about the crazy road layout plus a toddler in the back seat screaming she needed a wee wee!

zippyswife · 02/08/2022 21:45

Thanks again for all the messages of support. Yes I’ll be doing tolls. And unfortunately I’ll need to go Paris unless I wanted to add on another 2 hours. That’s the bit I’m dreading. I know when I did it last time (about 10 years ago) it felt like chaos. I’m sure it’ll be fine🙈

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FrothyB · 02/08/2022 22:40

zippyswife · 02/08/2022 21:45

Thanks again for all the messages of support. Yes I’ll be doing tolls. And unfortunately I’ll need to go Paris unless I wanted to add on another 2 hours. That’s the bit I’m dreading. I know when I did it last time (about 10 years ago) it felt like chaos. I’m sure it’ll be fine🙈

Just thought I would add this regarding your point about having to go around Paris. The 2 hours you think you're saving likely won't be anywhere near that once you hit the traffic.

I drove down to Carcassone a few years ago and on the way down went around the Péripherique. It was gridlock and chaos. The middle of the day, baking hot, just awful.

On the way home, I decided to cut across to Poitiers from Limoges and take the A28 to Abbeville. Worked out to be similar timewise, maybe slightly longer, but was a much more pleasant journey.

Also to add what others are saying about the speed cameras. In my experience, fines are no longer finding their way through to the UK from EU countries, much like they never used to come through from France untill I think 2016. I've heard it's because since Brexit they no longer have access to the DVLA database so can't send fines to the UK. My evidence for this is purely anecdotal of course, but we used to get flashed regularly by the 90km camera just outside of Calais, and haven't had a single fine come through this year. We've also been flashed multiple times in Germany and Austria and have had nothing come through. The camera vans will still get you though, as they normally have a car waiting up to the road to pull you in and give you an on the spot fine.

To be honest though, the motorway speed is roughly 80mph in clear weather, so there's no need to go faster, just be aware of places where the speed drops to 110km or 90km, as cameras tend to be placed just after the speed change. Everyone I know uses a camera warning on their sat-navs. Technically you aren't supposed to, and the radar warning boxes are definitely illegal, but how will they tell your sat-nav has the warning unless they pull you over? I'd say they would be unlikely to pull a woman driving with 2 children in a car full of holiday luggage unless you did something to give them cause to.

RewildingAmbridge · 02/08/2022 22:45

I've recently driven to Holland, DH has done most of the driving abroad before, but this time he'd hurt his hand and had to have stitches so I did it.
It was easy, the worst bit was the M25 when we came back!
Just take your time pay closer attention to roadsigns and your satnav, we found Waze much better than Google maps. If any of your children are a bit older and more responsible get them to sit up front and navigate, straight on this motorway for another fifty miles mum, you're coming off at the turning in two miles etc

EspeciallyDeIighted · 02/08/2022 23:00

Waze took us into a bus only street in France last week (DH uses it). I use Apple Maps and found it totally reliable.

I find T junctions in quiet areas are the most likely place to go onto the wrong side of the road, everywhere else you are guided by the road layout.

Definitely use the toll roads, do get a tag, it was a bit of a faff doing it with contactless every time.

And yes to petrol station pumps not always accepting UK cards, don't leave filling up till you are nearly empty, we found some weren't manned so no option to pay in the kiosk.

33goingon64 · 02/08/2022 23:05

I dreaded it and put it off for years. Tried it and found it was completely fine! Just do it.

33goingon64 · 02/08/2022 23:08

brittanyfairies · 02/08/2022 08:37

I live (and drive) in france. Just keep an eye out for the "priorité à droite" cars coming from the right have the right of way. In Brittany these are everywhere in towns now and on lots of country roads and they really xo just pull out in front of you. I hate it, so just be super vigilant.

Seriously? I drive in Brittany a lot and have never once seen this.

notimagain · 03/08/2022 07:18

Long story short but across the whole of France ""priorité à droite" is the assumed rule at any junction/intersection unless there are road markings or signs indicating otherwise. Been in the Code de Route forever....

There usually are sign/markings that means the main road gets priority, generally the only real times it comes into play is in towns.

www.thelocal.fr/20190808/how-does-priorit-droite-really-work-when-youre-driving-in-france/

SamBeckettslastleap · 03/08/2022 07:26

Have you got a PS4 with Crew 2 or similar (GTA)

I'm sure people will think I'm odd but I practised driving on the wrong side on the computer first. It really gave me confidence. Good luck.

demotedreally · 03/08/2022 07:34

The only other thing I would add is make sure you know what you would do if you break down. Have you got international breakdown cover. If not I would splash out on it, and then make sure you have the number handy. Like written on a bit of paper.

zippyswife · 03/08/2022 08:01

demotedreally · 03/08/2022 07:34

The only other thing I would add is make sure you know what you would do if you break down. Have you got international breakdown cover. If not I would splash out on it, and then make sure you have the number handy. Like written on a bit of paper.

Yes we don’t normally get it but this year I will!

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zippyswife · 03/08/2022 08:02

FrothyB · 02/08/2022 22:40

Just thought I would add this regarding your point about having to go around Paris. The 2 hours you think you're saving likely won't be anywhere near that once you hit the traffic.

I drove down to Carcassone a few years ago and on the way down went around the Péripherique. It was gridlock and chaos. The middle of the day, baking hot, just awful.

On the way home, I decided to cut across to Poitiers from Limoges and take the A28 to Abbeville. Worked out to be similar timewise, maybe slightly longer, but was a much more pleasant journey.

Also to add what others are saying about the speed cameras. In my experience, fines are no longer finding their way through to the UK from EU countries, much like they never used to come through from France untill I think 2016. I've heard it's because since Brexit they no longer have access to the DVLA database so can't send fines to the UK. My evidence for this is purely anecdotal of course, but we used to get flashed regularly by the 90km camera just outside of Calais, and haven't had a single fine come through this year. We've also been flashed multiple times in Germany and Austria and have had nothing come through. The camera vans will still get you though, as they normally have a car waiting up to the road to pull you in and give you an on the spot fine.

To be honest though, the motorway speed is roughly 80mph in clear weather, so there's no need to go faster, just be aware of places where the speed drops to 110km or 90km, as cameras tend to be placed just after the speed change. Everyone I know uses a camera warning on their sat-navs. Technically you aren't supposed to, and the radar warning boxes are definitely illegal, but how will they tell your sat-nav has the warning unless they pull you over? I'd say they would be unlikely to pull a woman driving with 2 children in a car full of holiday luggage unless you did something to give them cause to.

Ok…. I’m going to look again at avoiding Paris I think! I’m going on a Sunday and will hit it about midday or just after… going to check my routes again

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zippyswife · 03/08/2022 08:04

… although my overnight stop is just south of Orleans so not sure the best way to avoid Paris! Anyone any ideas?

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zippyswife · 03/08/2022 08:07

Ok… got a route which adds an hour and takes me via Rouen (I think we used to go through there to Brittany- I seem to recall it being the more stressful part of that journey!) is that better than Paris?

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WouldBeGood · 03/08/2022 08:12

The Rouen route is perfect to avoid Paris. Just be careful about programming the sat nav and put in waypoints, as they’re always desperate to take you to Paris 🤣

(I’d welcome that in a partner, but not a sat nav!)

MsMarvellous · 03/08/2022 08:15

We're in France now! We did a longer route to our gite via Rouen and Le Mans, about 90 mins longer but much nicer than trying Paris on a holiday weekend.

Just take your time until it feels familiar.

Clevs · 03/08/2022 08:20

We've driven in France a few times but not since 2017.

  • Make sure you understand 'Priorite a droite'.
  • Toll tags make life a lot easier at tolls.
  • Make sure your hi viz is in the car (not the boot) and you have one per person. You must have them on when you get out of the car if you break down, not rummage around in the boot for them.
  • Check what safety devices are currently required - warning triangle, spare bulbs etc.
  • We found crossroads the most difficult. Roundabouts were easy but we really had to concentrate at big junctions.
  • Change your sat nav from miles to km. It really helps when you're approaching a junction, especially if there's junctions close to the one you want. We found this was probably the biggest help to us and probably the best advice I'm giving you.
LadyDanburysCane · 03/08/2022 09:57

I drive in France a lot. I agree with avoiding the Paris route. My favourite destinations are usually Dordogne & Charente areas and sat nav always wants us to skirt Paris - we did it ONCE! Then we switched to a route through Rouen and down to Le Mans…. Rouen is the trickiest part for me, you have to be on the ball with your lane selections but mostly driving in France is much more pleasant than in the U.K. I love holidaying in this country but prefer the drive to Cognac to the drive to Cornwall!

Make sure you have a U.K. sticker, high vis jackets, warning triangle, ALL your documents. I was stopped once (driving away from a bar but hadn’t been drinking) and I had all my ID and insurance but, being British, the log book is kept secure at home. When I explained that this was the advice in the U.K. and why the gendarme was fine but told me to ensure it was in the car for future trips (personally I think that’s ridiculous as it makes a stolen car easier to sell on …..)

newtb · 03/08/2022 10:41

I live in the Limousin and you couldn't pay me to drive home via Paris. It's also shorter.

I go via Rouen, thé Évreux, Dreux and Chartres before joining the A20, which is free after Vierzon.

There are now many pollution-controlled zones and it would be an Idea to get a 'crit air' sticker. There's a govt website and you put in the reg no and get a sticker in the post.

Have a lovely holiday.

DangerouslyBored · 03/08/2022 11:07

You’ll be fine. French motorways are quite civilised. One of the things I found odd is where drivers leave their indicator on when overtaking on the motorway. I thought they’d forgotten to turn it until I noticed everyone does it.

This link has some v useful advice and tips

steve-morton.com/driving/driving-in-france/

notimagain · 03/08/2022 13:23

DangerouslyBored · 03/08/2022 11:07

You’ll be fine. French motorways are quite civilised. One of the things I found odd is where drivers leave their indicator on when overtaking on the motorway. I thought they’d forgotten to turn it until I noticed everyone does it.

This link has some v useful advice and tips

steve-morton.com/driving/driving-in-france/

That's pretty common and I think the theory is it's an over reaction to the requirement (in the code de route) to always indicate if lane changing/changing direction..so if in doubt people indicate....and keep indicating

BTW without wishing to overload or frighten the OP I'm surprised in the context of traffic jams and places like Paris nobody has mentioned the (now mostly legit again) practice of motorbikes filtering at speed between lanes of slow moving cars (typically between lane 2 and 3) when roads are very congested.

It's custom and practice as a car driver to leave a gap for that to be done and you need to be very very wary and make maximum use of mirrors before changing lanes in those situations.

It's probably as good a reason as any to try and avoid the périphériques in peak hours.

WouldBeGood · 03/08/2022 16:09

The motorbikes, especially in the tunnels, is my main reason for avoiding Paris @notimagain

And it’s scary if you have a high car with a roof box too…

notimagain · 03/08/2022 16:52

WouldBeGood · 03/08/2022 16:09

The motorbikes, especially in the tunnels, is my main reason for avoiding Paris @notimagain

And it’s scary if you have a high car with a roof box too…

The filtering comes as a bit of a shock and a bit eye watering first time you see it..

It's been banned on and off regionally but I think it has been approved again. It certainly goes on around our local city during rush hour and TBH mostly the bike riders are suitably cautious...self preservation and all that.

SwedishEdith · 03/08/2022 16:58

Were in France now and don't think we have a crit sticker 🙁 Just checked the RAC site and it looks like we're not going to be visiting any places they've listed but slightly worried now. Presumably you can't get one in France?