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Thread for people in sweat box flats

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EmmaH2022 · 23/06/2022 18:54

Please not just me?

I’m waiting for the outside temp to penetrate these insanely insulated walls. The temp in here is the same as yesterday. It will be like this till October unless we get a cool spell.

when I go outside I’m surprised it’s not boiling. These places are mad. They should have been made with air con as standard.

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blugray · 24/06/2022 00:28

Can you get in touch with the building developers or whoever you pay your service charge to? What do the other residents in your building do - I’m guessing they must be dealing with the same

mmmmmmghturep · 24/06/2022 00:31

My flat is housing association Its unbearable

EmmaH2022 · 24/06/2022 00:36

blugray · 24/06/2022 00:28

Can you get in touch with the building developers or whoever you pay your service charge to? What do the other residents in your building do - I’m guessing they must be dealing with the same

There's a mgmt co - They can't do anything about it though?

some people have moved because of it. Some people have air con units in more rooms because they have bigger flats and two balconies.

residents on the north side do better, the east side faces a building so the sun doesn't hit it so much.

some people don't mind it and use the heating a lot in winter. My flat rarely goes below 22 so heating use is rare. Just have to keep telling myself that and hope this is my last summer here.

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PansyPetunia · 24/06/2022 00:37

I am almost sold out of portable air con units

Nobody seems to be bothering with fans this year, too ineffective

Don't need to have them on for too long as they help massively by just reducing the circulating warm air

EmmaH2022 · 24/06/2022 00:37

Oh and you will often find residents sitting in the car park trying to breathe some nice cool air.

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EmmaH2022 · 24/06/2022 00:39

PansyPetunia · 24/06/2022 00:37

I am almost sold out of portable air con units

Nobody seems to be bothering with fans this year, too ineffective

Don't need to have them on for too long as they help massively by just reducing the circulating warm air

Yes, air con unit is much better than a fan

you have to sit in front of a fan, with the air con you can get on with stuff. Incredibly noisy though, and I'm dreading the bill.

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MarmiteCoriander · 24/06/2022 00:44

I sympathise. After 18yrs in a central london flat (between zone 1-2 and south facing) we have recently moved out. We were 2nd floor, so completely boxed in each side by other flats except for the very front and back which had windows. The bricks at the front would heat up- so in the evenings, it got even hotter as they radiated the heat back inside like a storage heater! I too would go outside and me amazed how cold it was!

I rarely needed any heating in the winter, but did have a portable air conditioner for summer, which was so large (mid 2000's style!) that I called the dalek! I only used the air con for a few days a year when it was unbearable, and the rest of the time had fans on. A bowl of ice in front of the fan can help a bit too.

EmmaH2022 · 24/06/2022 00:52

Marmite yes, all that insulation is literally absorbing heat and radiating it back into the flat. Mad.

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redandwhite1 · 24/06/2022 00:58

I'm in a flat and the only place I can put my baby is at the window so I can't have it open so it's boiling!!

mmmmmmghturep · 24/06/2022 01:00

Someone posted this on another thread.

www.bigissue.com/news/environment/heatwaves-are-britains-new-normal-and-our-homes-cant-stand-the-heat/

Some parts of the article:
“Already, around 20 per cent of homes in England alone overheat in the summer and a drive to insulate homes against cold could make overheating even worse.
Millions of people now live in homes unfit for the warmer climate we’re hurtling towards.
Without fast adaptation, it’s vulnerable people — from the elderly to the low-income and disabled — who’ll be left most exposed.”
“It’s a threat few, including policymakers, have paid attention to, says Bob Ward, policy and communications director at the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change.
“The effects of heat are underestimated in the UK, but we have literally hundreds of people in this country who die every summer because of overheating,” he says.
“Mainly this is people who already have underlying health conditions, and often they’ll die alone – heat kills you much more quickly than cold.”
“Low-income households, ethnic minorities and people with disabilities are, for instance, more likely than the general population to be renting homes, and it’s rented and social housing — often flats — which are more prone to overheating.
“Unlike a free-standing house, flats are surrounded by other homes, making it harder for heat to escape,” says Professor Kevin Lomas at the University of Loughborough, who conducted research into overheating in homes in 2018.
He added that top floor flats, where heat rises to, are worst affected. “Plus, there are fewer outside walls, making ventilation difficult,”
Reduced space in flats, meanwhile, makes escaping heat difficult or even impossible, and there are
few safe havens from high temperatures if there are no trees nearby to shelter from the sun.”
“Those on lower incomes are less able to afford cooling devices like fans, while also being more likely to do shift work, sleeping during the day when the sun is at its hottest.
Advice issued by the NHS on coping in heatwaves suggests “mov[ing] into a cooler room for sleeping” but, for millions, this cool room simply doesn’t exist.”

MsOllie · 24/06/2022 01:09

Dunno if any of these tips help anyone

Cooling mats/pillows
Those gel packs for injuries? Freeze them, wrap in a light towel and put in your bed
Running wrists under cold water really helps
Light scarf or flour sack type towel soaked in cold water, wring out well and put it over you before sleeping
M&S comfortably cool bedding is blissful

RoseMartha · 24/06/2022 02:03

I am lying in bed awake as too hot even with window open and no covers. Also in a flat. Not helped by the fact I fell asleep with the light on until my eldest went to the loo abt two hours ago.
Now I am wide awake and after tossing and turning for an hour and a half gave up trying to fall asleep.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/06/2022 02:10

you have to sit in front of a fan, with the air con you can get on with stuff. Incredibly noisy though, and I'm dreading the bill.

Nope. What you need are box fans in the windows. One blowing in, one blowing out (a different window). Creates air flow if the outside is cooler than the inside. Cheaper than a/c, better for the environment, cheaper to run as well.

EmmaH2022 · 24/06/2022 02:22

RoseMartha I'm just about to take a pill and hope for the best.

MsTerryPrachett windows are tilt n turn, so non possible.

re elderly - yes, one of mum's friends, late 80s, just moved into one of these flats. She thought it would be good in winter, which it will. But last week she was very unwell with the heat. Her house would have been much better.

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EmmaH2022 · 24/06/2022 02:28

Sorry Rose i meant to add, I hope you get some sleep.

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ArghhNumberjacks · 24/06/2022 02:32

Can I suggest gro blackout blinds (basically an insulated, black sheet) for the windows in your bedroom whilst keeping the windows open and curtains closed?

There's huge difference between the temperature of the two rooms which are facing the same direction but only one has the blinds in it (mainly because the other one has a massive window).

EmmaH2022 · 24/06/2022 02:48

ArghhNumberjacks · 24/06/2022 02:32

Can I suggest gro blackout blinds (basically an insulated, black sheet) for the windows in your bedroom whilst keeping the windows open and curtains closed?

There's huge difference between the temperature of the two rooms which are facing the same direction but only one has the blinds in it (mainly because the other one has a massive window).

already done.

Terry I am thinking about the box fans and can't see how it would work even if I normal windows. A box fan, like any fan, is just going to move hot air around?

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TheGirlOnTheDragon · 24/06/2022 04:07

FemmeNatal · 23/06/2022 21:09

Is it not worth getting air conditioning in?

Yes. Cheap air conditioning unit is the answer if it'd bothering you for months per year and also you are saving on winter gas bills so that should fund the cost.

TheGirlOnTheDragon · 24/06/2022 04:09

Sadly my budget will only stretch to a bowl of cold water to soak my feet in and a box of strawberry cornettos.

🤣🤣 Sad times!!

You can make pretty good fake home aircon though with a bowl of ice cubes/ frozen ice blocks in front of a cheap rotating fan.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/06/2022 04:19

Terry I am thinking about the box fans and can't see how it would work even if I normal windows. A box fan, like any fan, is just going to move hot air around?

If the outside is cooler than the inside, you are moving the outside air inside. Generally you try (if you have dual aspect) to have in 'in' fan on the shady side and the 'out' fan on the sunny side. And switch when the sun moves around. Although as long as the outside is cooler than the inside it works.

You can also do it based on time of day. Run then in the early morning to get the cool air in, and evening once it cools down.

It doesn't work if the outside is hotter. Then it's curtains, blinds, shutters and closed windows.

TheGirlOnTheDragon · 24/06/2022 04:19

Oh also those beanbag things that you can either microwave or freeze are brilliant.

TheGirlOnTheDragon · 24/06/2022 04:22

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/06/2022 04:19

Terry I am thinking about the box fans and can't see how it would work even if I normal windows. A box fan, like any fan, is just going to move hot air around?

If the outside is cooler than the inside, you are moving the outside air inside. Generally you try (if you have dual aspect) to have in 'in' fan on the shady side and the 'out' fan on the sunny side. And switch when the sun moves around. Although as long as the outside is cooler than the inside it works.

You can also do it based on time of day. Run then in the early morning to get the cool air in, and evening once it cools down.

It doesn't work if the outside is hotter. Then it's curtains, blinds, shutters and closed windows.

Brilliant advice.

TheGirlOnTheDragon · 24/06/2022 04:24

I am always also amazed at how many people in the UK have their windows open in the daytime in summer (if not doing similar to what MTP is talking about above, with a fan system to bring cool in and expel warm air out).

You open windows in the evening and overnight to cool and house down, keep shut in the daytime! And curtains drawn/ shutters closed. I find it really odd that people don't do this.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/06/2022 04:36

People just aren't used to it in the UK. It's only living in other countries where you copy what everyone else does.

mrsfrancinemeowington · 24/06/2022 05:14

I'm in Australia, I understand a hot house. Go outside and hose down your walls. Get an industrial fan from Costco, they're amazing.