Why haven’t you had the vaccine?

[TheChosenTwo]

So, this is not in any way intended to be a goady thread. I was reading about the statistics of how many people have now had one and two doses and was curious to see what the number will rise to before everyone that’s been offered it wants to have it.
So, out of pure noseiness, if you haven’t had the vaccine, why haven’t you?
Just to add my own answer to this - a member of my family has refused as they don’t trust the long term effects. Fair enough, I totally respect their decision, it’s not mine to make. Is everyone else who hasn’t had it feeling the same? Or is there another reason?
In 5 years time might you feel better if those that have had it aren’t showing a swathe of the same side effects? Longer than that? Are you planning on having it in the future or is it a total no from you?
As I said, not intending to cause any drama and I really am just asking because I’m curious as to what percentage of the population will end up being vaccinated!

Anxious due to allergies and generally unsure about longer term impact. I'm not a 'not ever' but I'm a 'not now'.

I don't think there's enough of a safe space for people just to say that they aren't sure. It feels like people are just told to get it, no questions ask for fear of being labelled an anti-vax conspiracy theorist which I don't think is helpful.

I haven't had it. I had awful periods before I was pregnant and my cycles were very long. Since I gave birth, I've had 4 day periods, with no pain and between 26-28 day cycles. As I know the vaccine can impact cycles, I don't want to mess it up to be honest when I'm really happy with how they are now.

@Onemorefortheroad

Anxious due to allergies and generally unsure about longer term impact. I'm not a 'not ever' but I'm a 'not now'.

I don't think there's enough of a safe space for people just to say that they aren't sure. It feels like people are just told to get it, no questions ask for fear of being labelled an anti-vax conspiracy theorist which I don't think is helpful.

You might be exempt due to allergies. I advice anyone with allergies to double check before they get the vaccination, more info can be found on page 21.

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@remmy6

These are just some of the reasons why I haven't had the vaccine (disclaimer: please don't take my word for any of this, look it up yourself):

• My statistical risk of dying from Covid is miniscule (healthy, under 40), whereas vaccine deaths seem to be sudden, spontaneous, random, and concerning - not enough data to say anything more than that, really.

• The UK govt has granted pharmaceutical giants who create the vaccines legal indemnity, protection them from being sued - no details are being released, and no full clinical trial data has been released either = concerning.

• It does not stop you catching or spreading the virus - IMO, not a vaccine like we have ever known before, but a symptom preventative. The official medical definitions of "vaccine" and "herd immunity" have recently been changed (past 12 months)

• Studies show the build up of lipidnanoparticles (from the vaccine) in the ovaries/bone marrow, long after the spike protein has left your system, so I query potential long term effects of this (up to years/decades down the line). Just as there is no evidence to say that these will cause harm, there is no evidence to say they WON'T either.

• Govt report 996740 released last week show that 62% Delta variant deaths in over 50s were vaccinated (see the last line of Table 4) - Google the number above and click on the first PDF (was not reported in MSM; conveniently, Matt Hancock's affair took the spotlight the day it was released)

Surely the figure in that variants of concern report shows the vaccine is highly effective.

Ok, 62% of the delta deaths in the over 50's were reported against against vaccinated people - but vaccinated people probably account for around 90% or so of that population. It's a massive amount of people more than the unvaccinated group.

I had an allergic reaction to antibiotics last time I took them, do you think they would consider me to be medically exempt in any case to have it?

I reluctantly had both mine and have in all honesty felt absolutely shit since. My periods have returned every 2 weeks despite having previously been period free for almost a year, I’m constantly knackered no matter how much sleep I get and for the first time in many years I’ve been getting migraines again. Really annoying as I’d not long started on HRT and was finally starting to feel more like my old self. Certainly won’t be having a booster jab.

@Ttchelp1 have a look at the greenbook link, there's lots of info about allergies.
It's not a simple answer of yes/no

If you missed it here's the link again and starts on page 21.

There are so many different NHS systems and they don't always catch up with each others (I had an hysterectomy via the NHS around 3 years, I still keep getting smear reminders). hence I suggest anyone with an allergy read this chapter beforehand,

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I've had the first but had problems with my blood afterwards. I have monthly blood tests and it flagged at that. Also allergies. I want a medical opinion before my second and no-one seems able to tell me.

@canigooutyet that looks useful

[quote canigooutyet]@Ttchelp1 have a look at the greenbook link, there's lots of info about allergies.
It's not a simple answer of yes/no

If you missed it here's the link again and starts on page 21.

There are so many different NHS systems and they don't always catch up with each others (I had an hysterectomy via the NHS around 3 years, I still keep getting smear reminders). hence I suggest anyone with an allergy read this chapter beforehand,

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Thanks for this canigooutyet will take a look. Hope you have recovered well xx

So if restrictions aren't lifted even after we get vaccinated, whats the point
we are cogs in the machine that generates wealth for people at the top....the machine must keep turning, ergo we must be vaccinated so that we can be packed into the workplaces
chop-chop now, the elites need thier private jets you know!

I know a few people who've had both jabs under vaccine trials. We still get the letters from the NHS to encourage us to get vaccinated and I think still count as unvaccinated in the statistics.

@Ttchelp1 hope the info helps you and others make an informed choice.

And no unfortunately I haven't recovered, I got stuck with those rare complications that can happen lol when shit goes wrong. Due to this and other nasty, rare stuff as side effects from medical interventions over my life, even if I could I wouldn't have it.

I've had it (well first dose) but I completely understand those who have chosen not to. If I were in any of these situations I'd refuse as I wouldn't see that the risks outweigh the benefits:

1. Under 30
2. Planning on having more children
3. Only offered AstraZeneca

I've had covid and it was pretty grim (though a lot of that was down to not being able to actually rest and recover being stuck in the house with three young kids with DH also sick with it) and as I am none of the above categories I figured I may as well have the vaccine and not risk getting it again.

Exempt due to previous lymph node issues and this comes up in adverse effects etc.

@TheVanguardSix
I am so very sorry 😞

@PhasedRay

I was only going to get the vaccine if it meant an end to restrictions, but saw on the telly last week Susan Michie from SAGE said they're going to make us wear masks and socially distance forever. So if restrictions aren't lifted even after we get vaccinated, whats the point.

Have you heard of the Swiss Cheese analogy?

Susan Michie from SAGE said they're going to make us wear masks and socially distance forever

That's not what she said at all @PhasedRay. And the vaccine WILL mean the eventual end to restrictions.

Yes she did @saraclara

She said we would need to keep things like face coverings in the long term. She was then asked what she meant by long term and replied "I think, forever".

I haven’t had it. I’m pregnant and would rather wait!

It's simply massively inconvenient to get one right now.
Despite living in a medium sized town, the closest vaccination centre is at least 10 miles away, which is around an hour round trip by car, two hours on the bus. I have small children, my husband works full time, we only have one car, I work most days in a supermarket so cannot just fit in an appointment easily, and if I am ill afterwards then I will not get paid for work missed.
I'm hanging on because I'm told that if I wait, I will get offered one at my GP which is actually in my town.
Getting a jab is easy if you have time, transport and flexible enough work, but I bet there are lots of people like me who simply haven't had a chance yet.

@BringBackThinEyebrows
Just had a read of that link, I can't believe how quick all the so called professionals are to dismiss women's claims. Apparently it's all in our heads like we don't know our own bodies & cycles! What's the chances of everyone of the 1000's of women who've reported changes just imagine it or its happening to us all at the same time coincidence? They must think we're all too stupid to know our own bodies. Notice not one of them is a endocrinologist yet they're talking about being experts on hormones, but in actual fact know about as much as any of us about hormonal changes & why they happen. They aren't qualified in that specific area of medicine or science.

I have had it but my other half has decided not to as he says there isn't enough research into the long term effects. To be honest I agree with him but personally decided to risk it. I understand why people aren't keen though.

@Thefaceofboe

If it's so tedious why reply on it then?

With a rude reply