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Toddler injured on escalator resulting in trip to A&E

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IlanaK · 19/05/2011 21:22

i live in London so travel very regularly on the tube with my three boys, the youngest is 2 (3 at the end of July). I don't use a pushchair for him as he started walking everywhere about 6 months ago. We are on the tube most days and I always hold his hand on the escalators and stand behind him in case he falls backwards (on the up ones) so I do consider that I supervise him to an adequate standard.

On Wednesday, midway up an escalator, he started screaming and twisted to face me and fell to a sitting position on the step. I looked down and could see a black line across his shoe. I picked him up and at the top of the escalator moved to some seats so I could sit him down and see what happened. He was very very distressed so wouldn't talk to me. I took off his shoe and sock and he had quite severe red marks across the knuckles of all his toes. He was crying so hard. I managed to get a few words out of him and it appeared he had put his foot in the brush that is at the side of the escalator. It obviously got stuck in a gap underneath and dragged.

I carried him up the next escalator to the barriers and told a member of staff what happened. he took us to a supervisor office and I told them and they logged my details. They offered to call an ambulance but at that point I just wanted to get him to my mother's place where we had been headed which was just outside the station. I carried him all the way there with him whimpering the whole way. I sat with him on my lap and he fell asleep within ten minutes. He does not sleep during the day. I think he was just so distressed that he needed to block it out. When he woke, he was still distressed and refused to put any weight on the foot. So I ended up taking him to A&E. They xrayed the foot and said it was not broken but he had a severe crush injury to the soft tissue and that he would limp for a while.

He has still not put his foot on the ground over 24 hours later. If you touch the foot underneath (which is very swollen) he gets very upset. If he tries to stand, he cries and buckles to the floor. I today finally examined his shoe that he was wearing at the time (it had sort of been chucked to the side and forgotten with one thing and another) and there is a deep gash that goes almost through the shoe. It is a croc shoe. So if he had been wearing sandals or less thick shoes, his toes would have been very badly cut.

My husband is furious about it all. He feels that if there is a gap that a child could get their foot stuck and crushed in, there is a design flaw in the escalators and they are not safe. He wants to contact a solicitor.

What would you do?

OP posts:
herethereandeverywhere · 19/05/2011 22:47

I bought DD some Crocs last week. They had a label attached to them clearly warning to take extra care if wearing them whilst using an escalator as they could get stuck in moving parts (or similar).

I think the brushes were added to the escalators some years ago following the incidents with wellies and similar footwear getting trapped. Escalators have moving parts, you inherently need to take care. I doubt you'll have much joy with legal action but an ambulance-chasing no-win-no-fee outfit might take the case on.

I hope your son recovers well and that it means you'll all stay safe on the escalators in the future.

callmeovercautious · 19/05/2011 22:48

@ Mumbling - You will find Hazard signs worldwide are standardised for exactly this reason.

herbietea · 19/05/2011 22:48

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RitaMorgan · 19/05/2011 22:55

Sorry this happened to your ds Illana, sounds very scary!

But yes, you do have to keep away from the edges, and not stick your feet down the side - and you have to stop your children doing the same. That's the reason you're supposed to carry dogs/small children isn't it? The warning signs are quite clear.

ScarlettWalking · 19/05/2011 22:55

That actually sounds horrific. I can understand why you are so upset. I had no idea about this and it's really worrying but I will take extra care now with dd.

MollysChamber · 19/05/2011 22:58

OP - I wouldn't let the fact that others couldn't get passed stop me carrying my DD on an escalator tbh.

WobblyWidgetOnTheScooper · 19/05/2011 23:06

To be fair there is no way I'd carry my DCs on an escalator - far too scared they'd wriggle free and fall (DS did that at home once, got a massive black eye). Mind you I would not take a buggy on an escalator either - DH saw a baby fall out of one once Shock

Anyway... Very interesting info about crocs. Now we have reason not to buy them as well as the fact that they're mingin'

ChippingIn · 19/05/2011 23:16

MollysChamber - that's fine, but how often do you use the escaltors on the tube? People just push if they can't get past - carrying a heavy toddler on there is really not a good idea.

IlanaK - I like you, have always held their hand etc making sure they stepped on and off properly and stood behind them so they couldn't fall. I have never seen the scary ads either nor really paid any attention to any warning signs. If anyone had asked me I would have said escalators have a smoothside which the 'stair' bit butts up to... never noticed 'brushes'. I guess both of us know better now :) I hope DS's foot is better in the morning. Has he been on an escalator since? If not I'd take him on a few soon so it doesn't become a 'Big Thing'.

RitaMorgan · 19/05/2011 23:18

I'm suprised anyone who uses escalators regularly can be unaware you shouldn't stick your feet in the sides!

I think this is a good example of how easy it is to forget the danger in familiar things.

MollysChamber · 19/05/2011 23:19

Chipping - I think it would be fair to say that you're not likely to find me anywhere near the tube. Ever. Push past? Well that's just rude!

ChippingIn · 19/05/2011 23:23

It can be manic - honestly, a toddler is MUCH safer standing infront of you.

Rita - I'm a bit baffled tbh - I can't say I've noticed brushes, mostly they seem to have that polished chrome panel... I wonder why they aren't all like that?

silverfrog · 19/05/2011 23:23

ChippingIn: I linked ot the scary ad further down the thread

RitaMorgan · 19/05/2011 23:29

I think many (most?) have brushes along the sides.

PaisleyLeaf · 19/05/2011 23:31

There seems to be a case for getting all those public information broadcasts back on TV.

silverfrog · 19/05/2011 23:33
edam · 19/05/2011 23:34

So what's the solution? Do we get all the escalators turned off because there may be people who are not paying attention to the (plentiful) warning signs? Or do we just accept that if you aren't paying attention, any accident is your responsibility?

By the way, those signs about carrying dogs are there for a reason, too. Dh once had to give first aid to three people bitten by a poor dog who had been caught in the side of the escalator.

CliniqueMum · 19/05/2011 23:39

I'm another one who's never noticed any brushes when travelling on the escalators with my three year old son. Mind you I usually have my eyes glued to where he puts his feet initially and he has been taught to stand still and is well supervised getting off. He usually goes in front or on the left of me towards the centre (depending if people are likely to need to come past). I'm really sorry to hear of your DS accident as it sounds horrific. Whilst I do think it is unfortunately an accident and not anyone's fault I do thank you at least for sharing as I'm sure there are a few of us who never realised the dangers.

edam · 19/05/2011 23:43

yeah, I hadn't realised Crocs were particularly dangerous, so that's been helpful.

Oakmaiden · 19/05/2011 23:47

Ilana - I am sorry your son was hurt. I think it was just an accident though - some things do have an element of risk, and as humans we are fallible. Your son got hurt despite the escalator manufacturer putting brushes on the side to help keep people's feet clear, despite signs being put up to warn people and despite you taking care to ensure your son was as safe as you could make him. Just one of those things.

I don't think "solicitoring up" will achieve anything useful though. You are not going to get the design of the escalators changed, and nobody has been negligent. And despite other people's rather unrelenting views, I don't think you were negligent either. Sometimes life is full of so many risks we can't possible be watching for all of them all the time.

Did A&E give your son some pain killers? Ibuprofen or aspirin might help with his discomfort - but it may well take a few days before his foot is comfortable enough to walk on.

veryjellybelly · 19/05/2011 23:54

IlanaK,

I'm going to try and be constructive here and give you an idea of what is likely to happen if you instruct a solicitor. I act for large companies defending claims such as these.

Your solicitors would initially write a letter alleging negligence/breach of statutory duty against the owners/occupiers of the station. They will respond and almost certainly deny liability.

You could then choose to issue county court proceedings. In order to prove the damage/loss your son would need to be medically examined, you would have to give a witness statement, and also be prepared to go to trial and give evidence at Court. This all costs a significant amount of money, unless you have insurance cover or can enter into a CFA with your solicitor. If you don't have any funding/CFA in place, and lose the case, you could be liable to pay the Defendant's costs. I can assure you that these can be considerable.

You may be prepared to go through the lengthy and stessful process described above if you strongly believe that there was in fact some negligence on the part of the owner/occupier. But you should also be aware that there is a considerable risk that the owner/occupier would bring you into the proceedings as a third party, blaming you for failing to properly supervise and/or provide your child with adequate footwear. I would certainly advise considering that course of action if I were acting for the owner/occupier.

Just thought I would flag that up.

carriedababi · 19/05/2011 23:56

i nev er knew they were dangerous.

i used to clean my shoes on the brush!

galletti · 20/05/2011 00:03

I have always been aware of the danger of the edges of an escalator - I just see end of spiky steps and a gap, so always avoid putting my feet near the edge, and have, since dd was very young, emphasised the danger. When we were recently on an escalator on the tube, dd told me that when she was with a friend and her family, the friend had been standing on the steel lip just above the gap, and it horrified me! She's a small 11 yo and I could just imagine her slipping and getting her foot, leg caught. Had a word with both of them about risks when we went down to town together the night beofre the Royal Wedding!

But thinking about it, Are there the big yellow lines at the edges that there used to be - can't remember seeing too many recently, or maybe I am just so used to them.

OP, it must have been very scary for all of you, but as as folly foot says, now you know the risks, you can educate your dcs about them.

TheLadyEvenstar · 02/06/2011 06:49

On an escalator ALWAYS stand toddlers and young children in front of you against your body and be very vigilant.

Accidents happen.

TheLadyEvenstar · 02/06/2011 07:15

From wikipedia
There is a risk of feet injuries for children wearing footwear such as Crocs and flip-flops that might get caught in escalator mechanisms.[3][4] This was due to the softness of the shoe's material combined with the smaller size of children's feet.[5]

EldonAve · 02/06/2011 08:43

I think a solicitor would be a waste of time

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