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I’ve just got back from living as a medieval person, AMA

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 11:57

First time in my life I’ve ever done anything worthy of an AMA!

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Learsfool · 05/02/2025 19:34

Does anyone have a link to the news show this was on I'd love to see it. That museum is my favourite museum ever.

Chasingsquirrels · 05/02/2025 19:40

This has been a really interesting read OP, even though I'd have no interest in doing it myself!

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 19:43

Saggyknickers · 05/02/2025 16:33

Are you mad? 😂

Good question.
Am I mad, or just very very sane? 😉

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 19:51

AuraBora · 05/02/2025 16:33

What a fascinating thread- thanks OP!

Pretty much all my questions have been answered already although I am not sure anyone has asked yet !bout children- were there any taking part in it?

We live near Weald and Downland and visit quite a lot - along with Butser Ancient Farm, have you done any reenactments there as well?

Dp and I would love to get in to it some day but probably when the kids are older and we have a bit more time...

Oh one last one, was Ruth Goodman there? :)
We saw her at the museum once...

No children this time but there was a dog.
Most re-enactments I do have plenty of children, they tend to love it because there are always lots of things they can get stuck into and lots of adults of different ages who don’t mind supervising them. But people might have been worried about doing this with kids because of the cold, plus it was term time.
The dog was very happy btw. Went from lap to lap revelling in the attention.

Butser - I haven’t but have friends who play Roman there.

Ruth wasn’t around but I re-enacted with her many years ago, when I was still a teenager. She was very kind and unfailingly cheerful in terrible weather. I really recommend her book, The Domestic Revolution.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 19:55

tanzanianhighlands · 05/02/2025 16:41

A fascinating read, and surprisingly similar to life in rural Subsaharan Africa - I spent time in villages in Tanzania, in the highlands where it could be frosty. No running water or electricity, and no access to modern toilets either - one thing I noticed was how tricky it was if you were disabled. Using a long drop toilet at night when you're unwell really isn't fun.

Someone asked about the smoke. Sadly it really isn't good for you - where I lived, food was usually cooked on a wood fire in a room with no chimney, and most middle aged women had lung issues. I wasn't cooking for myself, so it didn't affect me, but I know all too many who it did.

Women used old rags when they had their period - I took a supply of modern sanpro . A good water filter meant that having clean water wasn't too difficult for me, but beyond the means of most.

Where I was we did bathe every day, and because it was cold, there was a specific room for doing so, with a sloping floor. The water had to be fetched and heated, really time consuming.

Interesting that OP didn't want to leave - I'm very grateful for many modern conveniences, starting with washing machines....

Very interesting about the special room for washing.
Tbh I think the fact I didn’t want to leave was just because I wasn’t there for long; I am sure after a month or so I would feel differently.

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CaptainMyCaptain · 05/02/2025 20:02

I've got the Ruth Goodman book The Domestic Revolution. She's a very interesting person with an unusual CV. I had assumed she was an academic historian but she's not. I remember her talking about how she went several weeks without washing her body (not sure what period this was possibly 16th or 17th century) and just changing her linen regularly. She said she didnt smell. I suppose if you don't wear knickers the air circulates better round your nether regions.

A book I would recommend is Food in England by Dorothy Hartley. All about food production and cooking from medieval times onwards.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 20:07

Schleep · 05/02/2025 16:56

Are the other people taking part generally easy to get along with?
I find the idea of this fascinating, but would be concerned that it could get easily spoilt by one of the others being difficult, particularly as its so close contact and immersive.

It was a great team.

I think with reenactment everyone knows we all have to get on for it to work so if we want to play this game we need to make an effort. There are some very strong personalities in reenactment so some events are quite an exercise in getting on with people, but it’s worth it- you often end up getting very fond of people who were infuriating to begin with 😂

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EasternStandard · 05/02/2025 20:12

Did they have hairbrushes back then?

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 20:12

bookworm8500 · 05/02/2025 17:10

I have a question! Would you reccomend joining a medieval re-enactment for weight loss? 🤣 It sounds an ideal way to keep away from processed food for a bit!

It might not be the easiest way…. 😂

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 20:16

SerendipityJane · 05/02/2025 17:12

Were food intolerances common in those times ?

I know teeth were much better kept as there was little sugar in the diet.

I very much doubt it. I hope we will understand more about the causes in due course.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 20:20

MysteriousUsername · 05/02/2025 18:13

Was it a one off or will it happen again next year? I need to keep an eye on what the museum are doing. I follow them on Facebook but Facebook are excellent at showing me posts after the events have happened. 🙄

It was a one off but I think there’s a good chance there will be a repeat because we got lots of visitors so the museum was happy.

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OublietteBravo · 05/02/2025 20:25

At what point do you transition from modern times to medieval times? Do you just get changed once you get there? Or do you end up driving whilst wearing full reenactment regalia? And do you travel home in character, or do you get changed before you set off?

Actually, what footwear did you wear? Surely it’s difficult to magic up medieval footwear at short notice? And I’m guessing you can’t just wear modern shoes.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 20:31

HarryVanderspeigle · 05/02/2025 19:07

Where did you learn to spin?

Were there rushes on the floor and rushlights for the servants lighting? If so, where were they sourced from seeing as most of the marshes have been drained in the intervening 600 years.

Slightly off topic, but I now feel the need to go to this place and don't live close. What is the Chichester premier inn like? Or other cheap places to stay.

I first spun at Kentwell Hall years ago as a teenager but tbh most of my improvement and learning different techniques happened more recently courtesy of YouTube.

we didn’t have rushes on the floor but one of the group made rushlights. You don’t need a special source, soft rush (Juncus effusus) grows all over as long as it is slightly damp, I have found them on the Yorkshire moors and round random ponds in all sorts of places.

I can’t comment on Chichester premier inn but I stayed in the newer Portsmouth Havant one the night after and it was fine. They are generally pretty reliable ime.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 20:33

Firenight · 05/02/2025 19:11

Oh definitely a small world. Think I might be able to guess who you are as I saw that FB post where Ian told you to send a CV! Fellow reenactor here!

<reenactor high five>

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 20:38

WhatALightbulbMoment · 05/02/2025 19:15

What do you think of the social life that medieval people had? Our modern life with so many tiny households, many of which contain just one or two persons, and where people spend so many evenings alone in front of a screen, sounds completely the opposite to medieval life where you were never alone!

Our modern style obviously isn’t working for a lot of people, but equally, never being alone would be highly pressured too, and theirs was the era with the most murders!

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JoanOgden · 05/02/2025 20:55

Oh that telly report is really nicely done! Though I became slightly distracted by wondering whether one of the women reenactors' beautifully plucked eyebrows were authentic (maybe? there was a craze for high thin eyebrows at one point, wasn't there)

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 21:04

OublietteBravo · 05/02/2025 19:27

Is there anything you learned during your medieval experience that you’ll use as a Tudor? Did it clarify anything that you hadn’t appreciated about the later period?

Yes!
I was intrigued by the way people wanted to be attached to a greater household than their own, like, whatever your place in society you will send your children away to serve in the highest status house your contacts can muster.
The visceral physical experience of a house that is bearable because it has warmth, food, lighting, compared with what a house would be like slightly lower down the social ladder, just that bit darker, colder, less well fed…. It all makes a lot more sense than it would in our age where we can all (well mostly) have a warm, light house with enough food, even if it’s smaller and less well situated than the fancy one.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 05/02/2025 22:05

codemytea · 05/02/2025 19:33

How amazing! My DH and I are moving to a smallholding this coming May and I've been dying to find some more information out about some of the things you've been mentioning so please bear with me!

  • What would very young children (between 0-5) be wearing? Would it just be some shift with warm layers on top? Or would you be differentiating by gender from now? We're looking for something we can just roll and hem and basically unpick as children grow as we don't want to be continuously remaking clothes, and I can't imagine people in the 1400's would have either - a wonderful re-enactor mentioned clothes that grow with children and I haven't been able to get the thought out of my head since, but nor have I been able to find out anything online!
  • Do you know if there was much fermenting of vegetables going on in that time?
  • You mentioned you did some spinning - was this on a drop spindle or did you use wheels (and if so, was it 'the great' wheel or did you use more modern ones?)
  • Did you wash the fleece from it's raw state and then did you card/comb it? If so, would you be able to describe the process you used? I've been trying to find some info on how people washed fleece, say, before detergents but it seems to be so limited!
  • If you did any weaving, were you using floor looms or vertical warp-weighted looms?
  • With the kirtles, about how large was the circumference of the hem? And did the shift match that circumference? If not, did the shift restrict any movement and do you know why hems on kirtles would be made so much larger if you're just being capped by the hem of the shift anyway? Is it just for warmth?
  • What were shoes like and what did they consist of? Were the poorer class even wearing shoes at all?
  • You mentioned a bit about what you slept on - was the upper 'layer' basically like a futon stuffed with wool? And was the under straw layer loose or also enclosed in some ticking? Did you air the mattresses every day?

Apologies for all the questions! Would be helpful if you could detail how you actually go about finding these things as every time I go online to find something out it seems to take days of research before I can get a satisfactory answer!

This is a long one so I might answer in bits!

Children’s clothes - not gendered until 7ish. Linen smock and a kirtle (sleeveless wool dress) over it. The secret is lots of tucks in the skirt for the extra length, rather than a deep hem.
Sleeves were separate and tied or pinned on.

fermenting vegetables- not in this country afaik.

spinning - this week I used both a great wheel for wool and a distaff and spindle for flax, but I also use the spindle for wool.

I comb for the spindle and card for the great wheel. I have used detergent or soap to scour my fleece because I have never happened to be doing it in a reenactment but hot water should do it. I understand that lye or stale urine were used (both alkaline). If you are putting wool in hot water don’t do it suddenly, or it will felt.

I didn’t weave because by the 15th c it is floor looms and very much a skilled trade rather than a domestic task. You spin at home but the weaver turns it into cloth.

The smock hem is big enough that it won’t limit your movement. Then the kirtle is bigger. Fashion probably. I think mine is 120”. The gown is bigger still, but you don’t worry about the relationship between the garments.

will add more tomorrow!

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Wigeon · 05/02/2025 22:35

Good AMA! Pretty sure I know who you are from KW so here's another reenactor high five. Or more likely, I'll make my reverence, given you are usually posh and I am not and may be even serving you... 😁

Kudos for learning to brew for this, in addition to all your other historic skills and knowledge!

Delphiniumandlupins · 06/02/2025 00:41

Thank you very much for this fascinating and charming AMA

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 06/02/2025 09:39

codemytea · 05/02/2025 19:33

How amazing! My DH and I are moving to a smallholding this coming May and I've been dying to find some more information out about some of the things you've been mentioning so please bear with me!

  • What would very young children (between 0-5) be wearing? Would it just be some shift with warm layers on top? Or would you be differentiating by gender from now? We're looking for something we can just roll and hem and basically unpick as children grow as we don't want to be continuously remaking clothes, and I can't imagine people in the 1400's would have either - a wonderful re-enactor mentioned clothes that grow with children and I haven't been able to get the thought out of my head since, but nor have I been able to find out anything online!
  • Do you know if there was much fermenting of vegetables going on in that time?
  • You mentioned you did some spinning - was this on a drop spindle or did you use wheels (and if so, was it 'the great' wheel or did you use more modern ones?)
  • Did you wash the fleece from it's raw state and then did you card/comb it? If so, would you be able to describe the process you used? I've been trying to find some info on how people washed fleece, say, before detergents but it seems to be so limited!
  • If you did any weaving, were you using floor looms or vertical warp-weighted looms?
  • With the kirtles, about how large was the circumference of the hem? And did the shift match that circumference? If not, did the shift restrict any movement and do you know why hems on kirtles would be made so much larger if you're just being capped by the hem of the shift anyway? Is it just for warmth?
  • What were shoes like and what did they consist of? Were the poorer class even wearing shoes at all?
  • You mentioned a bit about what you slept on - was the upper 'layer' basically like a futon stuffed with wool? And was the under straw layer loose or also enclosed in some ticking? Did you air the mattresses every day?

Apologies for all the questions! Would be helpful if you could detail how you actually go about finding these things as every time I go online to find something out it seems to take days of research before I can get a satisfactory answer!

Part two!

Shoes. Fairly light and leather, hence much wearing of wooden pattens which are overshoes to keep you out of the wet or muddy ground. On a cold day they’re useful indoors too, for adding insulation between your soles and the cold floor.
All but the most desperate beggars would have had shoes but they do wear out and need fairly regular cobbling, so I have no doubt the state of repair of your shoes would be one way of telling how well off somebody was.
Boots were also worn a fair bit.

Bed: yes, futon stuffed with wool is a good description. The straw went in a big bag. We didn’t air them as such but the straw did need a bit of shaking and kicking around every day to keep it comfortable or it would have just gone flat and hard. If we had done it for longer regular bedding airing would probably have happened.

Sources of knowledge. That’s a really interesting question. I think over time you get to know which books are the immediate go tos on each subject. For instance, for a food question I will go straight to my copies of Peter Brears, or for clothes Thursfield for medieval or Tudor Tailor for 16th c. I think once you are part of the wider reenactment community it becomes easier as people are very willing to share knowledge and the internet really helps. One of the absolute privileges of this event was working with people who knew so much.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 06/02/2025 09:43

CaptainMyCaptain · 05/02/2025 20:02

I've got the Ruth Goodman book The Domestic Revolution. She's a very interesting person with an unusual CV. I had assumed she was an academic historian but she's not. I remember her talking about how she went several weeks without washing her body (not sure what period this was possibly 16th or 17th century) and just changing her linen regularly. She said she didnt smell. I suppose if you don't wear knickers the air circulates better round your nether regions.

A book I would recommend is Food in England by Dorothy Hartley. All about food production and cooking from medieval times onwards.

I agree about the Dorothy Hartley book!

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 06/02/2025 09:45

EasternStandard · 05/02/2025 20:12

Did they have hairbrushes back then?

I couldn’t say for certain about brushes in the 15th century, but there are plenty of combs.

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joysexreno · 06/02/2025 09:58

This is so cool!!!

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