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AMA ambulance emergency call taker

151 replies

iusedtohavechickens · 09/12/2023 21:31

I work as an emergency call taker, any questions?

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JamieKnows · 12/12/2023 11:30

"Ideally not but if the person you're talking to doesn't know it's you and you feel ok to continue then it can be allowed."

Is this true? You can knowingly continue without telling them that it's you? I know at our GP if the receptionists recognise someone they have to tell them immediately and offer them a different person to speak to.

Livebythecoast · 12/12/2023 11:46

Hi op. I did your job in the 90's when targets were 8 minutes in cities etc or 14 minutes to rural areas for ambulances to arrive! We didn't have computer generated questions either, just a first aid book in front of us! We used to go third-manning with the crews occasionally too which was an eye-opener. Do you ever get to go out with the crews? I had the best time of my working career there for 5 years but sadly moved counties and the base was too far to travel to.

LikeRobbieSays · 12/12/2023 11:47

JamieKnows · 12/12/2023 11:30

"Ideally not but if the person you're talking to doesn't know it's you and you feel ok to continue then it can be allowed."

Is this true? You can knowingly continue without telling them that it's you? I know at our GP if the receptionists recognise someone they have to tell them immediately and offer them a different person to speak to.

Rules are generally different in primary care to emergency/critical care for obvious reasons

Astonishing · 12/12/2023 11:48

@iusedtohavechickens have you ever had a call from a very young child?

Also interested in @Hollyhead 's question about major incidents.
I once witnessed a little girl run over by a van, I called 999 immediately before the family did, the family were told to hang up while they kept me as the first caller on the phone, I had to wade through the distraught family to check her breathing etc. Is that standard process?

christmaspaws · 12/12/2023 12:04

JamieKnows · 12/12/2023 11:30

"Ideally not but if the person you're talking to doesn't know it's you and you feel ok to continue then it can be allowed."

Is this true? You can knowingly continue without telling them that it's you? I know at our GP if the receptionists recognise someone they have to tell them immediately and offer them a different person to speak to.

I continued when I got a call from someone I knew (11 years as a emergency ambulance call handler)
It wasn't a family member it was actually the parent of someone I knew
You have to really - nobody else can take the call if it's busy and nobody is available

iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 13:22

@Heyhoherewegoagain
Apologies if I missed your question. Each amb services does thing differently. Where I work we use the same system as the ones and as long as you have a ref number we can update the job as required but will still have to check that nothing has changed or got worse since the last call. If things have changed then we have to retriage x

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iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 13:25

cerisepanther73 · 12/12/2023 10:36

Hi @iusedtohavechickens

What made you want to go into this type of medical field in the first place?

have you got any family members involved in medical field too?

what have your personal experinces if any ?
have been being the other side of the medical field as a patient then?

what has stood out , made you think about any personal experiences as a patient?
made you see another totally different perspective on the issues affecting NHS then?
that you didn't perhaps realise before so much ect too.

I have always worked in caring professions, HCA, community nursing and foster care so have always been drawn to jobs with a caring role. I've always wanted to be in the ambulance service and now my youngest daughter has started school it seemed like a good time to get into it. X

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iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 13:25

cerisepanther73 · 12/12/2023 10:37

@iusedtohavechickens
How long have you been Ambulance despatch driver 🤔 then?

I work in the call centre but ultimately it's a path to becoming a paramedic

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iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 13:26

cerisepanther73 · 12/12/2023 10:40

@iusedtohavechickens

Do you have cctv cameras to protect yourself from violent alchol dependent patients or anyone who is abusive to you in anyway?

Hope so, in the ambulance vans,

if not?.
there should be..

All crew have cameras and all our amb have cctv. X

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iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 13:27

cerisepanther73 · 12/12/2023 10:42

@iusedtohavechickens

Has being a Ambulance despatch driver 🤔 made you realise even more so, that's it's important to look after yourself in all regards?
eating healthier ect.

The call centre has made me realise just how many accidents there are in the road so I'm a more cautious driver now. Working in a call centre for 10-12 hours with a 39 min break doesn't really help healthy eating. I don't smoke or drink though x

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iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 13:29

cerisepanther73 · 12/12/2023 10:44

@iusedtohavechickens

Do you think there should be more outreach or more support in communities for alchol and substance abuse and mental health issues patients?

so there is less pressure on the NHS then?

Yes and mental health services need to be massively improved to support people before they get to the stage of drinking to help them. We I suppose are the sticking plaster for the lacking services.

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iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 13:30

cerisepanther73 · 12/12/2023 10:47

@iusedtohavechickens

If you had the personal power to also create implement effective changes to make the NHS more efficient for the times we live at nowadays?

what kinds of changes would you possibly create be drawn too then and why in particular so then?

Mental health for all age ranges is where the biggest overhaul is needed. We also need to help educate children now around when to use the emergency services as people using us as a gp are impacting the wait times of those in genuine need.

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WorkIsGettingtoMe · 12/12/2023 13:36

This thread made me cry.
Glad we have people like the OP.

Week54 · 12/12/2023 13:37

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Elvanseshortage · 12/12/2023 13:41

Thank you for starting this thread OP. You do such important work.

DSIS was a call handler for several years. Her experience was different. I guess because of being in a different location. She did not get the high level of non emergency calls that you do. She had to deal with a huge number of emergency calls where there was no way of moving the patient, and there were no ambulances available. People died while waiting and after repeated calls. She had to leave the job as it was so distressing for her.

It must be obvious to you that the system is unsafe. Are you never tempted to whistleblow about what is happening?

iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 13:54

Hollyhead · 12/12/2023 11:04

Thanks for a really interesting Q&A and for your dedicated work OP. My question is, how is it managed when you might have lots of calls about one incident - like a big motorway accident.

We all take the information from the person calling unless they are not at scene. Our supervisors tell us if are calls are no longer required then we thank the person calling and clear the line and all the information received is duped into whatever call is still running x

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iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 13:55

PaintAngst · 12/12/2023 11:11

How tough for you was the lengthy selection process and the training for the job? Were there times when you wondered whether you were suitable, or able to do something so stressful?

I also wondered how you feel when on your way to work for a shift -- are you calm, or are you at some level apprehensive, or preparing for a high level of stress?

(Total admiration, OP and all others who do your job -- I'm dreadful on the telephone, even for fairly ordinarily stressful situations...)

I often wondered if I was doing the right thing but only because I was scared about the fact that someone's life depends on me. The process itself was long winded but made me feel more comfortable that if I wasn't up for the job I wouldn't have made it through!

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iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 13:56

@PaintAngst there is always a little bit of apprehension before taking the first call that it could be a serious one but typically it's not!

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iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 13:58

SENparenting · 12/12/2023 11:19

Can I be at bit cheeky and ask that you revise the sepsis symptoms? (Not suggesting you don’t know but on a personal mission!)

My brother almost died on the way to hospital and my parents physically carried him into their car. The ambulance dispatch didn’t recognise how poorly he was and thought he had flu. He was immediately taken to intensive care and was there for over a month. Thankfully he is alive, but it could have easily gone the other way.

At my place we have extensive training in spotting the signs of sepsis as it's not always picked up in the questions. I have a couple of times had my seniors upgrade the response due to my concerns. If you suspect it you should always point it out and having a history of it is definitely worth mentioning if it happens again.

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iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 13:59

cerisepanther73 · 12/12/2023 11:19

@iusedtohavechickens

Sorry for misunderstanding your job title role,

i have just woken up,

just wondering 🤔 if there is any aspects of the questions i have asked you could possibly answer?

Thanks for this very interesting insightful questions and answers post 📫 you have set up here too,

Good idea,!

My mother was involved in the medical field as a nurse too..

I've answered as well as I can, happy to answer any other questions you may have about my role x

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iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 14:00

SunshineAutumnday · 12/12/2023 11:29

Just wanted to say thank you. As a lone HCP with a medical emergency, usually at night. Thank you, for the triaging, listening and reassurance.

Always happy to help, sometimes people just need someone to listen to them x

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iusedtohavechickens · 12/12/2023 14:01

JamieKnows · 12/12/2023 11:30

"Ideally not but if the person you're talking to doesn't know it's you and you feel ok to continue then it can be allowed."

Is this true? You can knowingly continue without telling them that it's you? I know at our GP if the receptionists recognise someone they have to tell them immediately and offer them a different person to speak to.

Sometimes if the situation is time critical we may not have time for this kind of delay. In heightened situations the person on the end of the line is unlikely to recognise your voice, we know who they are because we get their name x

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olderbutwiser · 12/12/2023 14:10

Another ambulanceland person here.

I think EMA is the toughest job in the whole service, and one of the worst paid for what you do and how much of yourselves you have to give. Thank you.

cerisepanther73 · 12/12/2023 14:10

@iusedtohavechickens

Thanks for taking the time to answer as many of the questions ive asked too.

Take care of yourself too

cerisepanther73 · 12/12/2023 14:15

@iusedtohavechickens

Any advice tips ect for anybody potentially wanting to do NHS call centre work like you do ?