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I home educate my 3 children

311 replies

LilyTuesday · 18/03/2023 14:01

As the subject title says! I have found myself answering lots of questions over the years, once people find out we home Ed our children… but they are probably being polite and not saying how they really feel about the idea of choosing to never send a child to school…. So AMA if you’ve ever been curious!

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HospitalHelp · 18/03/2023 23:11

Some more points on x posts:
My dc have learnt languages that I can’t speak. They go to a tutor (their language tutors haven’t been people with teaching degrees btw).
You don’t need a scheme of work or curriculum unless you’re teaching for exams and like I’ve already said we will use the resources from whichever exam board we’re using.
I don’t see that it matters that your child does the same hobbies as a child who’s home educated @shortandpaleandoldandugly , it’s completely irrelevant.

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:12

Have you been anywhere near a school recently?

Only every day of my working life. Have you?

FatGirlSwim · 18/03/2023 23:12

fUNNYfACE36 · 18/03/2023 19:11

How do you think passing a couple of gcses a year will be viewed, compared to your standard candidate who passes 10 gcses in one sitting ? ( clue- unfavourably) and how do you justify thus ruining their life chances?

That’s quite an assumption. Universities often look favourably on home educated students who tend to be self motivated learners, according to dh who was a uni lecturer and admissions tutor for years. Taking GCSE’s in a staggered way from age 11-16 didn’t harm my friend who was home educated and is a barrister.

HospitalHelp · 18/03/2023 23:12

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:11

@HospitalHelp Bitesize has been mentioned a few times on here and I have to say I hope it's not as significant a tool to your "teaching" as some of you are making it sound. Bitesize is exactly that- a Bitesize version of the learning needed for GCSE topics. I use it in the classroom sometimes for a quick introduction to the topic or a quick recap but it would be surrounded by lots and lots more in depth learning. It really is not close to being enough for GCSE success.

My eldest dd has passed all gcses with 8s and 9s and is now in sixth form college so I don’t think you need to worry about how much we used bbc bitesize thanks.

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:12

@HospitalHelp it's not at all irrelevant. My children get all yours do PLUS a broad education taught to them by subject specialists.

ChildminderMum · 18/03/2023 23:14

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:12

@HospitalHelp it's not at all irrelevant. My children get all yours do PLUS a broad education taught to them by subject specialists.

And mine get to do all that WITHOUT a narrow, negative school experience in a crumbling education system.

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:15

If my child wants to learn a language (or an instrument or horse riding) then they'd need to do a class or have a tutor

In short, they'd need a professional for any subject that their parent could not teach which, for the vast majority, would mean either lots and lots of tutors or a very narrow curriculum.

AskAwayAgain · 18/03/2023 23:19

@HospitalHelp How many hours in classes a week do your children attend with someone teaching them?

ChildminderMum · 18/03/2023 23:22

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:15

If my child wants to learn a language (or an instrument or horse riding) then they'd need to do a class or have a tutor

In short, they'd need a professional for any subject that their parent could not teach which, for the vast majority, would mean either lots and lots of tutors or a very narrow curriculum.

No, for the vast majority it would mean some classes for particular things like languages or instruments Grin

Lots of home ed children do online classes in various things unavailable at school though - astronomy, fashion design, sign language, Pokemon.

I think maybe you're imagining home ed to be like school teaching on a smaller scale - the 'expert' stands at the front and instructs the child.
For most it isn't - parents can be facilitators or learn alongside their children rather than just transmitting knowledge. Children are actually self- motivated and active learners.

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:24

Interestingly my DD (aged 8) learns sign language at school- in fact the whole school use it constantly. Astronomy is taught at my own (secondary) school. Fashion design is covered in Art and Textiles classes. No one teaches Pokémon in school though I'll grant you that. Can't imagine why...

AskAwayAgain · 18/03/2023 23:27

@ChildminderMum The standing at the front and imparting knowledge is viewed in schools as very old fashioned.

HospitalHelp · 18/03/2023 23:28

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:12

@HospitalHelp it's not at all irrelevant. My children get all yours do PLUS a broad education taught to them by subject specialists.

I can guarantee you that not all subjects will be taught by specialists. Supply teachers without degrees teaching for months on end because a position is unable to be filled, English teachers teaching science… things like this happened often in my school.
Also, who are you to say that my dc don’t have a broad curriculum? I can guarantee that your dd won’t have studied astronomy for gcse, been part of a touring theatre play, exhibited art work in a local gallery, is able to speak Chinese? I could go on. Our children are educated differently but it’s very ignorant to assume that your way is better when you nothing about my way.

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:29

parents can be facilitators or learn alongside their children rather than just transmitting knowledge

I can hand on heart say that the worst teachers I've ever known were those who were on page ahead in the text book. Good teaching needs teachers that can be flexible, who can explain things in different ways to make it clearer. You can't do that if you're only learning it at the same time as the student.

AskAwayAgain · 18/03/2023 23:30

@HospitalHelp I have twice asked how many hours a week your children are taught in a class situation as you have described. So I will ask again. Two hours a week? Three hours a week? Or is it an hour a week with the professor, swimming lessons, and a riding lesson?

FatGirlSwim · 18/03/2023 23:31

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 22:38

The vast majority were also holding down full time jobs working from home for the first time

Oh I know many who were furloughed with no work to do at home who weren't able to engage their children with the work set by school. I say this to counter the argument made by a PP that anyone can do it. I disagree.

That is so different from EHE though. I have done both. Remote learning is boring and not conducive to engaging children, for the majority. Motivating children to do someone else’s set work in a prescribed format is a world away from a tailored learning journey that evolves and is adapted to your own child’s interests.

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:32

I can guarantee that your dd won’t have studied astronomy for gcse, been part of a touring theatre play, exhibited art work in a local gallery, is able to speak Chinese?

Can you? My child doesn't do astronomy for GCSE but she could- some at her school do. She hasn't been part of a touring play but some I have taught have- they had permission for time of school for it. She has had work exhibited in the local gallery though as do many students I have taught- every year in fact in a school exhibition. She doesn't speak Chinese but as previously stated is on track for 9s in two languages and is learning a third.

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:34

Remote learning is boring and not conducive to engaging children

That depends on the remote learning. I'm not sure what you think Oak or YouTube or Bitesize are if not remote learning...

HospitalHelp · 18/03/2023 23:38

AskAwayAgain · 18/03/2023 23:30

@HospitalHelp I have twice asked how many hours a week your children are taught in a class situation as you have described. So I will ask again. Two hours a week? Three hours a week? Or is it an hour a week with the professor, swimming lessons, and a riding lesson?

I’ve literally just read your question, I can’t see it twice? Unless I missed it, if so apologies. Have you muddled me up with someone else as we haven’t conversed yet and I haven’t mentioned swimming, horse riding, professors or my children being taught in a class? I said that my dd was taught languages by a tutor. She did x2 hours per week per language. She’s at sixth form college now.

FatGirlSwim · 18/03/2023 23:39

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:34

Remote learning is boring and not conducive to engaging children

That depends on the remote learning. I'm not sure what you think Oak or YouTube or Bitesize are if not remote learning...

I don’t use them. Never said I did.
They aren’t remote learning though, they are a resource you can dip in and out of.

HospitalHelp · 18/03/2023 23:43

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:32

I can guarantee that your dd won’t have studied astronomy for gcse, been part of a touring theatre play, exhibited art work in a local gallery, is able to speak Chinese?

Can you? My child doesn't do astronomy for GCSE but she could- some at her school do. She hasn't been part of a touring play but some I have taught have- they had permission for time of school for it. She has had work exhibited in the local gallery though as do many students I have taught- every year in fact in a school exhibition. She doesn't speak Chinese but as previously stated is on track for 9s in two languages and is learning a third.

That’s my point though which again you’ve proved, my dd and yours do completely different things and neither is better nor worse, just different. You’ve accused my dd of not having a broad curriculum and I’m demonstrating that she absolutely has.

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:46

@HospitalHelp your child is now post 16. How many GCSEs did she get at 5+ in addition to the list of extra curricular activities we have compared notes on?

NoSweat · 18/03/2023 23:46

Oldandpaleandugly not very good at learning, are you? That's the problem with being institutionalised, you think you know it all when you have no idea what's outside the box. Thinking you know it all, and thinking your job is to impart that information creates a very passive learning environment. That's a real problem when young people leave school and enter the real world.

In home education, on the other hand, child and parent often learn together, languages, sciences - the world is our oyster; the learning atmosphere is collaborative and could not be more different from school.

AskAwayAgain · 18/03/2023 23:46

@HospitalHelp Apologies I must have got you mixed up with another poster

Truckinghell · 18/03/2023 23:46

Is there a way the people bickering on the thread could just... stop? You've all made your positions perfectly clear, I'm not sure what more is to be gained. It's not AIBU and it was quite an interesting thread at one point.

shortandpaleandoldandugly · 18/03/2023 23:49

not very good at learning, are you?

Well I've got a masters degree plus a number of other post graduate qualifications so I've not done so bad.