Page 5 | Sarah Phillimore and Robin Moira White interviewed by Andrew Doyle

DerekFaker · 2023-01-22T22:40:03+00:00

About the Scottish gender recognition bill https://youtu.be/X6U4B9QUG2I

OttersMayHaveShiftedInTransit · 30/01/2023 19:11

Did i write something awful under it.
Nah I think I did that because you laughed. I just meant a pair of leggings was a minor insignificant thing.....honest 😉

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 19:04

rabbitwoman · 30/01/2023 19:02

Why have mumsnet removed the post showing the front page of tomorrow's daily record!??

I really think that there should have been a way to make life easier for trans women and trans men without compelling teenaged girls doing a beauty course to strip off infront of a rapist.

Did i write something awful under it. I don't remember. I said the previous poster was correct they were pink. Did I insinuate something from that? Or?

rabbitwoman · 30/01/2023 19:02

Why have mumsnet removed the post showing the front page of tomorrow's daily record!??

I really think that there should have been a way to make life easier for trans women and trans men without compelling teenaged girls doing a beauty course to strip off infront of a rapist.

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 18:59

OttersMayHaveShiftedInTransit · 30/01/2023 18:49

It really is such a small thing to bring the whole house of cards crashing down.

😁

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 18:58

Oh come on! What was that one for?

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 18:51

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I think you give a very clear analysis of the effect that Sarah's public announcement that she would no longer lie about anyone's pronouns prior to the debate most likely had on, and consequently altered, the narrative that came from the other side of the debate.

OttersMayHaveShiftedInTransit · 30/01/2023 18:49

It really is such a small thing to bring the whole house of cards crashing down.

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 18:42

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ILikeDungs · 30/01/2023 18:36

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FlirtsWithRhinos · 30/01/2023 18:34

DialSquare · 30/01/2023 17:05

I'm reminded of the song "Little does she know" by the Kuurssl Flyers!

I've been singing the last few posts to the tune of Blur's Girls and Boys

MmePoppySeedDefage · 30/01/2023 18:22

Arf.

But they were pink leggings therefore the leggings of a ladee, no? Acceptance without exception, no?

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 17:27

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TheClogLady · 30/01/2023 17:20

Sounds like RMW is arguing that the Spousal Veto should actually be a real veto…

…rather than just a delay in the granting of a GRC while the marriage is legally ended?

RMW is going to be attacked as a terf any minute now… gonna be hard for RMW deny when RMW has a Mumsnet account, guilt by association and all that.

Somanyquestionstoaskaboutthis · 30/01/2023 17:15

Mmmnotsure · 30/01/2023 16:51

Robin suggests the views of Bryson/Graham's wife might hold the key to whether or not B/G's trans status is genuine.

Do other wives/ex wives get to decide re their husbands/ex husbands too? Could Robin's?

I thought the same. If Graham’s wife can say he is lying so therefore Robin can say Graham is not a TW then surely the fact that Robin married at all can be used to disprove Robin saying he always knew he should be a woman? Or, it could be said marrying a woman under false pretences is nasty, and if you do something nasty you are not a TW apparently, according to Robin? Just following the same logic. Not being personal.

DialSquare · 30/01/2023 17:10

Thanks Boiled! I totally mistyped the spelling of Kursaal! Which is strange as I live very close the building they named themselves after!

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 17:09

I hadn't listened to that in years!

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 17:08

DialSquare · 30/01/2023 17:05

I'm reminded of the song "Little does she know" by the Kuurssl Flyers!

m.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZnQQF7ucdM

Cailleach1 · 30/01/2023 17:05

Hmm. It still seems to be that men can lift the veil a little and say that other men are not women. Even if claim to be, just like they are doing. Yet, women are deleted for saying the very thing those men are admitting.

DialSquare · 30/01/2023 17:05

I'm reminded of the song "Little does she know" by the Kuurssl Flyers!

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 17:03

ANewCreation · 30/01/2023 16:56

Just checking in to see if I have got this clear...

There are men that say they are men. And men that say they are women. But some of the men that say they are women say that some of the men that say they are women are not really men that say they are women but actually men that should say they are men.

Yes??

Sorry I missed a word in my previous response let's try again

And further to my tentative yes! If men can do all that then women who are women can say men who say they ARE women are not women they are men!

Cailleach1 · 30/01/2023 17:01

Oh, yes. They are parvenu, false pretenders, not genuine pretenders like moi.

This brings the old pretender, and new pretender to the throne to mind. At least those chappies didn't pretend their very organic embodiment had magically been transubstantiated through some mystical alchemy, though.

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 17:01

ANewCreation · 30/01/2023 16:56

Just checking in to see if I have got this clear...

There are men that say they are men. And men that say they are women. But some of the men that say they are women say that some of the men that say they are women are not really men that say they are women but actually men that should say they are men.

Yes??

And further to my tentative yes! If men can do all that then women who are women can say men who say they women are not women they are men!

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 16:59

Some of mine I have no bloody clue what I said, I'm just having too make my best guess around the surrounding posts contents of what i would say!

Boiledbeetle · 30/01/2023 16:57

ANewCreation · 30/01/2023 16:56

Just checking in to see if I have got this clear...

There are men that say they are men. And men that say they are women. But some of the men that say they are women say that some of the men that say they are women are not really men that say they are women but actually men that should say they are men.

Yes??

Yes.

I think

TheClogLady · 30/01/2023 16:57

I was looking for the list of nominees for our new Gender Recognition Panel (featuring Layla Moran driving around the country in the Mystery Machine from Scooby Doo wearing the Sorting Hat from Harry Potter) and couldn’t find it.

Surely THAT wasn’t deleted? 🤣