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Alice Walker supports JK Rowling

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ArabellaScott · 09/03/2023 09:17

alicewalkersgarden.com/2023/03/theyre-trying-to-burn-the-wrong-witch-the-witch-trials-of-j-k-rowling-redacted-news/

'I consider J.K. Rowling perfectly within her rights as a human being of obvious caring for humanity to express her views about whatever is of concern to her. As she has done.

I also believe that listening to each other before going for the match would put some distance between us and the Middle Ages.

As an Elder (which I take seriously), I must remind us that there is no “right witch” to burn.
Perhaps only our own lack of awareness of being erased, long before robotic
AI “females” were foisted upon society’s consciousness, primarily as slaves, workers, and sex toys.
By this I mean, for instance, that “woman” for whatever sinister reason was being erased in language well before she/her was being disappeared from dictionaries and society.

The use of “guy” for both male and female eroded the ability of children to easily feel confident in which gender they were. From that confusion, considered irrelevant, apparently, to the forming of young minds, has come much cutting off of parts and restructuring of essential physical equipment. If such restructuring is freely chosen at eighteen or twenty, at least there is a sense the person involved may have lived long enough to know, definitely, what is desired.
Younger than that, I feel there may in fact be reason, later on, to mourn and weep. After all, the human body is a miracle, of whatever sex, tampering with a miracle is unlikely to serve us.~aw'

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xxyzz · 19/03/2023 19:07

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 18:46

'shilling for Neo Nazis'

Good god.

Would you prefer 'supporting antisemites'?

Does that sound better to you?

xxyzz · 19/03/2023 19:06

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 18:53

Yet you are the one who chose to resurrect it, xxyzz. Odd.

I didn't resurrect it. I posted my comments on a live thread.

I don't live on MN. I came back to see a load of posts since I'd posted pointing out Walker's antisemitism, that were - quite falsely - claiming it was just a matter of an innocent blind spot.

So too damn right I corrected that.

No way am I going to let that stand.

NotHavingIt · 19/03/2023 18:56

xxyzz · 19/03/2023 17:31

Her support is poisonous to JKR, who has faced entirely unfounded accusations of antisemitism and racism - which in JKR's case could not be further from the truth.

It's poisonous in the same way as support from any other neo-Nazi is poisonous.

This is support we do not want or need.

While it's true that even neo-Nazis might be right about something once in a blue moon, eg knowing what a woman is, their 'support' is not helpful in convincing normal people. The opposite.

"We" are not a hive mind.

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 19/03/2023 18:53

xxyzz · 19/03/2023 18:51

I advised it as I didn't feel this was going to achieve the aims of the thread, which I assume was started in good faith by someone unaware of Walker's notoriety on this, with the aim of defending JKR.

Having now heard that Walker is in fact a MASSIVE RACIST, I assume (naively it turns out) that this thread would die a natural death, because why the hell would people claiming to support JKR CHOOSE TO LINK HER NAME TO A MASSIVE ANTISEMITE?

FFS.

With friends like you, Rufus, JKR clearly has no need of enemies.

Where have i done that xx put your money where your mouth is and stop making unfounded personal attacks

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 18:53

Yet you are the one who chose to resurrect it, xxyzz. Odd.

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xxyzz · 19/03/2023 18:52

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 19/03/2023 18:50

Absolutely

Oh yes, how dare the only Jew on the thread take affront at support for a Holocaust denier?

Can't think.

xxyzz · 19/03/2023 18:51

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 19/03/2023 18:48

And you xx are the only one ‘fuming’ that someone ‘saw fit’ to defend walker

and ‘advised’ other to drop the discussion

its a discussion thread…people are allowed to discuss

I advised it as I didn't feel this was going to achieve the aims of the thread, which I assume was started in good faith by someone unaware of Walker's notoriety on this, with the aim of defending JKR.

Having now heard that Walker is in fact a MASSIVE RACIST, I assume (naively it turns out) that this thread would die a natural death, because why the hell would people claiming to support JKR CHOOSE TO LINK HER NAME TO A MASSIVE ANTISEMITE?

FFS.

With friends like you, Rufus, JKR clearly has no need of enemies.

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 19/03/2023 18:51

The article i referred to upthread talked about walkers ani semitism and i found it very interesting

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 19/03/2023 18:50

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 18:49

I think you're leaping to assumptions on various fronts. And as for 'rude', only one person here has told anyone to F off.

Absolutely

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 19/03/2023 18:50

Do you think supporting Holocaust denial, the claim that Jews funded the Holocaust, and that Jews are trying to enslave 'Goyim', are examples of vile, vicious antisemitism?

i do

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 18:49

I think you're leaping to assumptions on various fronts. And as for 'rude', only one person here has told anyone to F off.

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xxyzz · 19/03/2023 18:48

Do you think supporting Holocaust denial, the claim that Jews funded the Holocaust, and that Jews are trying to enslave 'Goyim', are examples of vile, vicious antisemitism?

Or do you think they merit 'discussion', could be 'agreed' with, or 'questioned'?

Your call. I can't believe I need to be posting this on MN, but there you go.

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 19/03/2023 18:48

And you xx are the only one ‘fuming’ that someone ‘saw fit’ to defend walker

and ‘advised’ other to drop the discussion

its a discussion thread…people are allowed to discuss

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 18:46

'shilling for Neo Nazis'

Good god.

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RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 19/03/2023 18:45

Though not to you clearly

you have absolutely no idea where i stand on this…

xxyzz · 19/03/2023 18:43

If you have questions about Alice Walker's antisemitism, ask away.

xxyzz · 19/03/2023 18:43

Absolutely.

And I have the right to point out the flaws in their 'arguments'.

If you think I'm going to give a massive racist a free pass, sorry, not going to do it. And anyone who stands up for the massive racist is going to get challenged to own that racism.

This stuff matters. Though not to you clearly.

RufustheSpeculatingreindeer · 19/03/2023 18:40

You aren’t the boss of this thread xxyxx

posters have the right to ask questions and disagree with you

xxyzz · 19/03/2023 17:54

Absolutely fuming that someone on this thread saw fit to defend Walker AFTER I posted the evidence.

FFS.

What is wrong with some people?

I am happy to report that I absolutely DO do purity tests on neo-Nazis AND THEY FAIL.

I don't want the support of neo-Nazis. If they happen to agree with me on something, fine, I'm sure we both agree that water is wet, the sky is blue and quite possibly, men are not women.

But I'd no more cite them as proof for the soundness of my views than I would cite those of a madman.

xxyzz · 19/03/2023 17:46

And leave poor JKR out of this discussion.

As I said, Walker's support is poison to her.

Even if you couldn't care less about antisemitism, you can surely see that connecting JKR to views like this is a disgrace.

xxyzz · 19/03/2023 17:44

Holocaust denial - tick
Jews funded own Holocaust - tick
Jews aiming to make all 'Goyim' slaves - tick

Do you think these views are just a bit of harmless fun?

Fuck off.

xxyzz · 19/03/2023 17:42

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 17:37

You're saying Alice Walker is a neo-Nazi. Don't be so bloody silly.

If it walks like a Nazi and talks like a Nazi, it's a Nazi.

Don't be so bloody rude. Shilling for neo-Nazis does you no favours.

xxyzz · 19/03/2023 17:41

Just to add, @DemiColon , you may think that:

I've known individuals within Judaism to talk about these things and in one case as a young person to have some really negative experiences encountering them in what was meant to be a positive environment.

but if you genuinely know Jews who are claiming the Holocaust didn't happen or agree with Walker's statement on the Talmud:

"Are Goyim (us) meant to be slaves of Jews, and not only
That, but to enjoy it?"

then frankly they too are massive antisemites and their views are horrific too. Or to use your terminology, they are definitely suffering from "moral unworthiness" and not just an ever-so-convenient 'blind spot'.

You might find Baddiel's book, 'Jews Don't Count' to be helpful bedtime reading.

Or maybe you're just a hateful racist too? Who knows.

ArabellaScott · 19/03/2023 17:37

You're saying Alice Walker is a neo-Nazi. Don't be so bloody silly.

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xxyzz · 19/03/2023 17:31

NotHavingIt · 13/03/2023 09:00

It is not about "us" and "them". It is about people being prepared to speak the truth in the face of a censorious virtue signalling mob There are no purity tests that one must pass to do this. She supports JK Rowling is all that is relevant when it comes to this issue - and her support is important because she is a similarly iconic writer.

Her support is poisonous to JKR, who has faced entirely unfounded accusations of antisemitism and racism - which in JKR's case could not be further from the truth.

It's poisonous in the same way as support from any other neo-Nazi is poisonous.

This is support we do not want or need.

While it's true that even neo-Nazis might be right about something once in a blue moon, eg knowing what a woman is, their 'support' is not helpful in convincing normal people. The opposite.