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The "so what can we actually do" thread...

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ImSoNotTelling · 25/05/2010 17:18

Hello

Following on from the thread about changing the law on rape to grant anonimity to the accused, a few people have started to think about what we can do to get involved, to actually try and change stuff.

So I guess this thread is for suggestions, ideas, and for people to link up to actually try to change things.

So far we have someone possibly standing for pariament!

So come on everyone.

What's the plan....

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Prolesworth · 27/05/2010 18:29

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KittyTwoShoes · 27/05/2010 18:22

My god. DP is signing but his friend is refusing. "Surely you can understand that a high percentage of claims are false. My friend was found not guilty of rape..." Well sorry mister, but with such a pitiful conviction rate, he probably still did it. I can feel my blood pressure soaring. Thankfully, DP has told him to sod off.

StewieGriffinsMom · 27/05/2010 18:22

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Prolesworth · 27/05/2010 18:20

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sethstarkaddersmum · 27/05/2010 18:18

is only the opposition allowed to sign these things? It just seems to be all Labour....

(and look, not one of the hundreds of new BNP MPs has signed it. Oh I forgot - there aren't any BNP MPs. snigger.)

StewieGriffinsMom · 27/05/2010 18:14

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KittyTwoShoes · 27/05/2010 18:13

Well my mum is signing... and my dad said he will when he goes on the computer tonight. And I'm working on my DP who actually thinks it's a good idea to give defendant's anonymity but surely won't when he understands that it's just one crime they're talking about.

LeninGrad · 27/05/2010 18:09

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sethstarkaddersmum · 27/05/2010 18:08

Jacky Fleming has signed the petition. Do you think it's THE Jacky Fleming?

LeninGrad · 27/05/2010 18:07

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Prolesworth · 27/05/2010 18:06

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HerBeatitude · 27/05/2010 18:05

oh God I can't, I'm sorry. The spelling's so bad. I just want to bury my head in the sand and avoid the rest of the world. This place is an oasis of intelligent, well-informed, well written debate. I hate the rest of the interweb.

StewieGriffinsMom · 27/05/2010 18:03

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StewieGriffinsMom · 27/05/2010 17:59

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HerBeatitude · 27/05/2010 17:57

Right I think I'll get over there

StewieGriffinsMom · 27/05/2010 17:34

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jenny60 · 27/05/2010 17:29

Sorry, also meant to say that '2000 a week' could also be a really catchy slogan. Like, 'I believe you', it might make people stop and wonder. I was going on about it on another thread, but whenever I wear my 'This is what a feminist looks like' tshirt, someone asks (most look emabbarressed/nervous to be fair).

sethstarkaddersmum · 27/05/2010 17:28

your links were great Vesela.

jenny60 · 27/05/2010 17:28

Me too: RAGE, RAGE, RAGE

vesela · 27/05/2010 17:26

I hope it wasn't too much - I was just trying to collect some articles/resources to use against the "but we must have equality before the law" arguments. Because under the current legal system the victims are in a far worse position.

Isn't it cynical, the use of women defence barristers? It makes you realise that the mere fact of women being represented in the system isn't enough.

yes, LeninGrad, just have to keep on changing minds one by one...

Ewe · 27/05/2010 17:25

Feminism debate that I am hoping to go to with two very lovely men I know. Just thought I would let you know in case any of you fancied it too.

Prolesworth · 27/05/2010 17:25

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sethstarkaddersmum · 27/05/2010 17:19

well said Lenin.
I am also comforting myself with the thought that sometimes someone doesn't turn round and say 'Oh yes ok, you're right, I was wrong' immediately but you have actually planted a seed and when they mull it over later they change or at least moderate their position.

This law thing is perhaps a particularly depressing one to be fighting on because it's not about achieving further progress so much as preventing things going backwards. But I think it is winnable.

As for changing attitudes, I don't know how you can ever see results, but it doesn't mean it's not worth it.