Agony Uncle Danny Dyer shares his "wisdom" with the readers of Zoo Magazine

here it is

He has been sacked now. I will post a link in a mo.

I wonder why these mysogynists even feel the need to go through the sham of pretending they abhor violence against us when at the same time they are promoting it.

No wonder so many young men's heads are so full of shit. It must be very confusing for them.

From Franche's link, punchline of a 'joke' printed in Zoo in this week's Zoo:

"She was crying, so I told her to keep her chin up. It made it a lot easier to get the noose on."

Because right now they're trying their damndest to prove that they're not a bunch of misogynistic neanderthals.

We know it's all a sham but there's no harm in making hay whilst the sun shines

But why would Zoo want to support a campaign against violence against women?

They're all about contempt for women. Why on earth would they be bothered about violence against us?

I replied and sent him this link

I said a one off donation, no matter how 'substantial' smacked of brushing the issue under the carpet and ongoing support of the White Ribbon campaign would go further towards encouraging Zoo's readers that violence against women was neither big nor clever.

Good idea Prolesworth! I got the standard reply from Tom Etherington too.

I heard the guy who wrote in asking for advice (apparently there really was someone writing in to one of these things! Who knew?) saying he expected it to be like the first part (yaknow, smashing stuff up and enjoying yourself) but the last line was just sick. Tenuous moral high ground tbh but he took it nonetheless. How he can whilst having written into zoo of all places for advice truly baffles me.

oops it was knockraven, not riven

Gah I totally missed Riven talking about this on the radio

Thanks for the link Franch - I am at those quotes. Makes an utter mockery of their 'apology' doesn't it

great article Franch, thanks for link.

This is an excellent article: What about the rest of Zoo??

that link to the OBJECT charter again, in case there is anyone on MN who hasn't seen it yet!

it would be great to capitalise on the backlash against this by actually getting some structural changes in place - the OBJECT charter asks for lads' mags to be regulated in the same way as magazines for teenage girls.

(sorry to go on about this!)

I agree Adair, production error is more of a back-down excuse than joke.
Actually I'm rather cheered by how quickly this has happened and how much media attention it has garnered.

I think readers were meant to go ' Hey mate, fucking have a look at this! Cut her - that's good innit? Can't believe they fucking printed it!'
ie it will have derived its power/humour from the shock value and they expected readers to talk about it, but in a positive way.

No, I'm glad they backtracked and pretended it was a 'production error' and are embarrassed about it. Donation to Woman's Aid good.

They could have defended it by saying it was ironic/a joke, etc. And they didn't. I agree Danny Dyer prob didn't know too much about it, but he needs to be more careful what he puts his name to. Mostly cos it isn't funny .

Am hoping Zoo readers were supposed to go too. But seems unlikely. Nathan, that's interesting. Perhaps they were making cultural references...

I agree that it's appalling of him and the magazine. Just predicting how the media will cover this and how he'll attempt to shield his skinny arse.

sorry, i'll try that link again:
www.shoutingatco.ws/blog/2010/04/08/the-wonder-of-danny-dyer/

Don't really care whether it was purely him or not. He puts his "celeb" name to it and too many people in Zoo thought it was cool to publish it and for that himself and the mag deserve all that comes to them and far more.

I think the likelihood is that this column is ghostwritten and Dyer actually just phones in a few of his so called opinions to be worked up into a column. My guess is that he said it as a joke (ho-ho) and the ghost columnist has put it in verbatim. Prepared to be proved wrong though.

I was taking about the fact that dd himself said he was misquoted, to me that suggests he said something similar otherwise it wouldn't be called misquoted would it????

Zoo mag tweeted that this was an error, not intended for publication (oh well then!)

I have come across this concept before. Apparently it was common in sicilian culture to cut a woman's face to keep her loyal as scar would make her less attractive to others. (I can't remember which artist but have seen paintings depicting these scarred women in a national gallery). Also in Kill Bill 2 there is a scene in mexico where a pimp says to beatrix kiddo "I wouldn't have killed you, I'd just have cut your face".

Sorry for boring tangent!