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Depression: a feminist issue?

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Molesworth · 29/04/2010 11:54

From today's Guardian: Why do so many women have depression?

Anyone else feel that the 'epidemic' of depression and anxiety among women is a rational response to the circumstances in which we live?

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wukter · 29/04/2010 13:56

I'm not informed about MH issues at all, but I did read somewhere that depression is often a kind of anger turned inward.
So, are women more inclined to direct their anger at themselves rather than external factors? If so, why?
Whereas men don't usually have a problem directing anger outwards.
Apols if I have totally misunderstood the nature of depression.

dittany · 29/04/2010 13:54

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Iklboo · 29/04/2010 13:48

Perhaps women are more likely to go to doctors & get a diagnosis?

dittany · 29/04/2010 13:44

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SethStarkaddersMum · 29/04/2010 12:42

sorry, I mean:
maybe once upon a time you could accept things (eg suffering in childbirth) BY BLAMING THEM on your lot as a woman, but now we have the myth of choice it is your own fault you suffer in childbirth because you chose to have the baby?

have we moved from a misogyny that said 'you are suffering because of the sin of Eve who was a woman' to 'you are suffering because of your own choices'?

we are believed to have the power to transcend practically everything that is the result of being a woman [in this current society]. It's as if society is very near to saying 'Well you chose to be a woman!'

SethStarkaddersMum · 29/04/2010 12:36

thanks for posting this Molesworth - interesting stuff.

The article focuses on that old chestnut 'having it all' but I think the current flowering of misogyny in society has a lot to do with it as well.
And indeed, that relates to the 'having it all' issue in that women who do do it all are reviled and regarded as selfish for wanting to have it all rather than admired for the huge contribution they make to society in keeping things going on both the domestic and work fronts at once by doing it all.

So many groups of women are demonised - single mothers (but not the absent dads), slebs who let themselves go, slebs who don't let themselves go (!), rape victims who are seen as asking for it, mothers who have 3-wheeler buggies that get in the way of childless people trying to get to work.... I think if you have any latent tendency to feel shit about yourself you will find a lot of ammo to back your negative self-image up.

To give a trivial example....I'm thinking back to Mother's Day a year ago when I was sick with hyperemesis (sorry I do go on a lot about this ). I was off work, dh was doing absolutely all the housework and childcare and I said I didn't really deserve a Mother's Day card because I wasn't much of a mother. Completely missing the irony of course, that it was motherhood that was making me sick.
I mention that because if you unpack it there are so many underlying current attitudes and circumstances that contributed to me feeling like that. 1.the fact that I was sick in the first place despite there being effective drugs available, because it's so hard to access treatment for HG 2. dh being regarded as a hero for doing what many women do all the time and hence me feeling extremely guilty about asking so much of him 3. the 'you chose to be pregnant' attitude so prevalent in society - despite motherhood being essential to society it is treated as the woman's choice and hence many people feel she should bear the whole responsibility for it.
sorry if this is a bit self-justifying/navel-gazing but I think there might be something there worth thinking about!
Is 'choice feminism' a key issue underlying this kind of thing - the myth is: 'women can choose whatever they want, so any problems with their lot are essentially their own fault?
maybe once upon a time you could accept things (eg suffering in childbirth) on your lot as a woman, but now we have the myth of choice it is your own fault you suffer in childbirth because you chose to have the baby?

MarshaBrady · 29/04/2010 11:57

Economic necessity - ie moving to where the work is, which is often away from the family.

= isolation after having children.