Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Original poster

What is the current wave of feminism called?

34 replies

SethStarkaddersMum · 19/04/2010 10:44

Sorry if this is a silly question!
There does seem to be a bit of a resurgence at the moment (one which is direly needed ) but the themes seem to have more in common with 2nd Wave than 3rd Wave.
Are we having a new wave or are we, like, the end of the 3rd Wave or what?!

I know it seems a bit silly to fuss about labels rather than the actual action itself but my brother was asking me the other day and I wasn't quite sure.

OP posts:
New posts on this thread. Refresh page
TunipTheVegedude · 10/03/2013 20:23

Oh how lovely to see this thread bumped, I'm getting all nostalgic now.
When Prolesworth was Molesworth.....

I have never forgotten Lenin's answer, the 'thank fuck for that' wave. This is what I tell people now if anyone ever asks.

LRDtheFeministDragon · 10/03/2013 20:16
Grin

Brilliant.

FrothyDragon · 10/03/2013 20:13

You know, every time we have an invasion, I find myself thinking of this ol' classic...

LRDtheFeministDragon · 10/03/2013 20:10

Common sense.

I am enjoying the invasion, btw.

Varya · 10/03/2013 19:26

Attitude and Entitlement!

dicsuccionc · 10/03/2013 19:25

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by Mumsnet for breaking our Talk Guidelines. Replies may also be deleted.

msrisotto · 21/04/2010 08:12

I really don't like the 'wave' description at all. It implies that it's just a phase that will be over soon.

Original poster
SethStarkaddersMum · 21/04/2010 07:48

I'm wondering now if all the recent books which call themselves feminist can be divided into 'real feminism' and 'third wavey post feminist crap'? Which is not to say all 3rd wave is crap, it very much isn't, but maybe a proportion....

OP posts:
EggyAllenPoe · 20/04/2010 18:51

how about The Ninth Wave

dittany · 20/04/2010 18:40

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

dittany · 20/04/2010 18:34

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

randomama · 20/04/2010 16:01

There's a really good book by Astrid Henry called Not My Mother's Sister that explores the differences between so called 2nd and 3rd wave feminism within a generational context and puts paid to many of the myths about second wave feminism that were put out there in (often massively under researched) third wave texts such as "The Morning After".

witchwithallthetrimmings · 20/04/2010 15:09

let it be a tsunami

Original poster
SethStarkaddersMum · 20/04/2010 14:59

rofl @ some of these answers. I think I will adopt Lenin's if anyone asks me again.

that 'discussing their book contracts' story is very interesting because it relates it to commodification - you would sell more books if you could say 'We are a new wave!' than if you were part of the old one. A new wave is just asking for big review articles in the literary supplements, isn't it?

I love the Sokal hoax, have read a lot about it. Will look out for that Eagleton book, thanks.

OP posts:
Molesworth · 20/04/2010 00:55

Sorry, should have made clear I meant the 'lapdancing is good' stuff is bollocks. I understand that the critique re: privileging of white middle class experience was necessary.

BitOfFun · 20/04/2010 00:39

The identity feminism pointing out how classist and culturally insensitive some 2nd Wave stuff is was very valid though, Molesworth.

Molesworth · 20/04/2010 00:31

Re: differences between 3rd wave feminism and postmodern feminism - I haven't read any 3rd wave feminist stuff (like Manifesta). Tbh it sounds like bollocks so I think I'll give it a miss

BitOfFun · 20/04/2010 00:20

I like it, Blu

Terry Eagleton is very good, I agree.

Molesworth · 19/04/2010 23:20

HAHA Blu, v good

BitOfFun · 19/04/2010 22:17

Hmm, feminism did start to fragment into various camps from the eighties (is that Third Wave?). After that, I thought we were supposed to be Post-Feminist? Which was all the garbagey pole-dancing stuff. Maybe we should be Retro-feminist or something?

I'm sure there are better ideas, but if Dittany is right and someone can come up with a label at a dinner party, I don't see why we don't get to do the same on Mumsnet

LeninGrad · 19/04/2010 22:16

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Blu · 19/04/2010 22:13

I think it's called 'Not Waving but Pole Dancing'

OrmRenewed · 19/04/2010 22:12

I think I will just call it feminism. It's simpler that way.

dittany · 19/04/2010 22:10

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

LeninGrad · 19/04/2010 22:09

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.