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Which entrenched views need to change in society

85 replies

rainbowinthesky · 07/04/2010 18:06

The following are things I've noticed in my time on mumsnet

the view that childcare costs come from the woman's wage

men are not able to cook/clean/do laundry because they are men (always with a lol after stating this)

men need a list in order to look after their own kids

and so on

OP posts:
GardenPath · 13/04/2010 02:25

...that there's no such term as 'unmarried father'.

Or 'youth pregnancy'.

...that single mothers are sluts, single fathers are heroes.

GardenPath · 13/04/2010 02:08

..that doing something 'like a girl' is used as an insult.

GardenPath · 13/04/2010 02:06

...that SAHM's are not working.

GardenPath · 13/04/2010 02:02

"For a man to be ruthless, he has to invade a country and murder millions, a woman just has to put you on 'hold'"

Where did I hear that?

blinder · 10/04/2010 13:26

I just meant as in 'i never use a dictaphone: I always use my finger!' boom boom

no?

Katisha · 10/04/2010 12:56

Yes...

blinder · 10/04/2010 12:06

Have I lowered the tone?

blinder · 09/04/2010 20:19

Orm I think it would smudge anyway .

OrmRenewed · 09/04/2010 14:47

That despite my not possessing a penis I am not neccessarily the secondary claimant on a mortgage application form. Especially having the biggest income. As it happens I've never found the need for the aforementioned appendage to sign on a dotted line

StealthPolarBear · 09/04/2010 14:41

sorry, see that arguments already been had, and me StealthPolar-readthef*ingthread-Bear
also agree with:
By GetOrfMoiLand Thu 08-Apr-10 14:09:08
If a bloke has to take some time from work to go and attend to a sick child/watch a school play = he is a hero and a wonderful father

If a working woman does the same = she is a flake

StealthPolarBear · 09/04/2010 14:38

in defence of childcare costs being the woman's costs - it's easier to think of it that way when the woman is going back to work from ML - as the net increase is her wage - childcare. That's certainly what e've done. Obviously that doesn't mean I pay for them.

confusedfirsttimemum · 09/04/2010 14:34

That a career must be a straight, smooth, upwards trajectory, not a jumble of stops, starts, ups, downs, pauses and accelerations. That your most important working years are your 30s

(there's another thread somewhere about Camilla Cavendish's column on this)

sarah293 · 09/04/2010 14:32

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 09/04/2010 14:26

To borrow from misogynist bingo, the belief that "the gender dynamics of our cave-dwelling ancestors looked curiously like those of 1950s America"

minipie · 09/04/2010 12:57

That baby boys should be dressed in blue, and baby girls in pink. and that it really matters if someone mistakes the gender of your baby.

even amongst otherwise sensible, equality-promoting people, this one still prevails it seems. bizarre.

slug · 09/04/2010 12:44

Ah yes thumbwitch. I'm a Kiwi so I appreciate the Antipodean singlemindedness with respect to rugby. I remember the hours of TV allocated to watching paint dry the America's Cup when it was in Auckland.

thumbwitch · 09/04/2010 12:35

for football read rugby and that could be Australia just as easily, slug.

slug · 09/04/2010 10:12

A UK centric one here:
That sport = football. And that the only sport that matters is the sport that men do.

Bonsoir · 09/04/2010 09:28

Pregnancy isn't an illness. But it does require special care and understanding...

gaelicsheep · 08/04/2010 23:46

That the potential "second income" earner is de facto the woman.

thumbwitch · 08/04/2010 23:41

more applause for Coldtits - brilliant!

blinder · 08/04/2010 23:29

Coldtits I love 'a penis is not a learning difficulty'!

TheCrackFox · 08/04/2010 22:20

Round of applause for Coldtits.

coldtits · 08/04/2010 22:15

That a woman dressed comfortably, in shoes she can walk in properly without risking her posture and clothes that won't rip or ride up/down when she is doing something practical is dressed in an 'unfeminine' way.

We don't mean unfeminine, do we boys and girls? We mean non-sexually and that is not the same.

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