How is it possible to be a feminist and support the sex industry?

So far the only thing either of them has said in direct relation to the thread title is to get Andrea Dworkin's name wrong.

It's like going onto a vegetarianism thread specifically to bang on about loving rare steak. They might be real 'whores' as they like to describe themselves, but they aren't feminists. Which rather undermines their authority on a thread about feminism.

sgb, I am not the only woman on this thread who thinks these jokers are on a wind-up

trying to convince women that 2 hours of cunnilingus administered by a very skilled man is the height of women's pleasure ?

give over

SGB even if these are genuine sex workers as opposed to pro prostitution lobbyists, their experience has to be out of the ordinary when compared to the horrific experience of the majority. At any rate, when the question is how can you be a feminist who supports the sex industry, they don't help themselves when they crow about sleeping with our husbands.

Misshoneymoon and mandamumu do you have anything constructive to say about feminism as it relates to the sex industry? Anything about empowering women? Anything about equality of opportunity? Anything at all??

Anyfucker: don't know which scenario you are putting yourself in, but if it doesn't appeal to you then don't engage in it. However, why do you think that your perceptions of a situation and your reaction to a set of circumstances or a particular physical situation are so much the correct responses that any woman who says she has different responses is deluded or lying?

I didn't refer to your friend as a fuckhole Manda. 'She' asked for direct arguments without using tired phrases. I said that she markets and sells herself as a fuckhole and that this act contributes to the male perception of women as objects rather than people.

Two hours of cunnilingus has to be a man's idea of a woman's good time. Schoolboy error.

< thinks >

< puts self in scenario >

nope, sgb, you ain't convinced me

Anyfucker: But not all women who exchange sex for money consider it the grimmest thing possible. Some women would rather sell sex than scrub floors or be a bailiff because as far as they are concerned, the moneyh's better, the risks of physical or verbal abuse lower and the work sits better with their consciences than some other jobs.
Also, just because you or some other women don't like prolonged sessions of cunnilingus doesn['t mean that all women would find it 'torture'.

Whatever the real identities of Manda and Misshoney, they are not saying anything I haven't heard other actual, real, live sex workers say. But any women who say they are selling sex and not coerced into it (or like sexual practices that some posters insist no woman likes because they themselves dislike these things) are always quickly told that they are dishonest, must really be men, deluded or malicious. Sex work is not invariably a living hell for all sex workers, and acting as though it is, isn't helpful.

unfair claig ?

don't be silly

as one of these sockpuppets pointed out earlier..."don't forget that people can read what you have written..."

typer beware, I say

If it takes 2 hours he is doing it all wrong and could be also in danger of having DVT in his tongue.

at the risk of giving these two puppets more wank-fodder, I rather enjoy a bit of cunnilingus

2 hours would be torture...and I challenge anyone to tell me differently

so you two sockpuppets are friends, manda ?

not just two random, unconnected sex-workers who just happened to be passing by this thread in your crinolines, on the way to your boudoir ???

and felt that you needed to put us all right in our misapprehensions that working as a prostitute has to be one of the grimmest of grim things possible

and that the degradation that many of these women suffer is not a sad reflection on our society as a whole ?

no ?

all-righty then

and fyi, I have never used those ridiculous words you referred to

The original question here was:

How is it possible to be a feminist and support the sex industry?

I would have thought that you would be interested in our input in this thread. Instead, my friend has been called a "fuckhole" and I has been accused of being a man.

Thank you ladies.

You say that we use strange language?
Mumsnet is the home of such terms as:

Foofoo
Lala
Minmin

Pot... Kettle...

AnyFucker it would be unfair to be more specific.

3 hours

manda...go and have a wank into your crinoline

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AnyFucker, what are you trying to say?

I don't like rough cunnilingus, it has to been very very gentle, so maybe I can go for longer than you.
I will admit though, the time before, then guy booked me for 3 hours and that was more than I could take. It's not often in life you get to utter the phrase "If you go down on me again I may be forced to kick you in the head".

claig...don't be coy

what "clue" ?

AnyFucker, I think it was mandamumu who mentioned cunnilingus. As I say I cannot be sure about mandamumu. I agree that a lot of the language that both use is strange. But if you carefully reread MissHoneyMoon's posts there is a clue which will show why she is for real.

a "very skilled man"

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manda...I suggest you go and read some literature on basic stuff...you know like what feels nice and what starts to feel like sandpaper on a mucous membrane after a little while

Molesworth: Wrt Paul Holmes, please don't forget that he may not have met a lot of sex workers who are doing it without coercion because it is perfectly possible for a sex worker who is doing it voluntarily and safely to go about her working life without coming into contact with the police or at least without being identified by the police as a sex worker. For one thing, a woman working as an escort, getting clients over the internet or by advertising in magazines is not actually breaking any laws
This is not, of course, to say that Holmes is lying about meeting sex workers who are coerced and abused, NO ONE is denying that this happens and it is bad.

I wasn't the one who mentioned boudoirs, so don't throw that one at me.