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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Barring certain reproductive bits, men and women are basically the same. Discuss.

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ElephantsAndMiasmas · 29/03/2010 21:04

I know we've touched on this on other threads, but I was hoping to troublemake start a discussion on this specific issue. So often I've heard people say "of course wanting equality does not mean we think women and men are the same. We cherish and celebrate the differences between them" and the like.

Well, what are the differences then?

The more I think about it the more convinced I am that men and women are fundamentally pretty much the same, squashy bits aside.

What do you reckon?

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msrisotto · 29/03/2010 22:01

I think a lot of the things you described Surprise, are socially constructed.

I believe there are differences between men and women but this is often used as an excuse to discriminate in some way.

Differences I can think of....
I have seen brain scans which show the activated areas when tasks are carried out and men on average have like, twice as many areas activate than women during tasks requiring skills in spatial awareness. Meaning, they have more allocated brain to attempt spatial awareness tasks. I believe this may partly explain why there are less female pilots than male, however, society is also to blame for discouraging girls to excel in topics that are considered male. Also, it could be that brains have evolved this way in a "use it or lose it" kind of process, little boys given challenging toys will develop more tools by which to go about solving them than girls who have been given dolls and dolls houses.

Sport, I think is another area where men and women differ. However, it is easy to get into a debate about the reality of gender divisions as highlighted by the recent investigation into Caster Semenya's gender proved she was in fact intersex, living her life as a woman and whatcha gonna do about it?

I'm very much a live and let live kind of person and if someone wants to live as a man or woman when society wants to pidgeon hole them another way based on the appearance of their genitals, then that's society's problem, not the individual and it kind of makes a mockery of the arbitrary, binary gender assumptions forced upon people in things as trivial as sport.

Surprise · 29/03/2010 21:27

I think men and women are fundementally poles apart. (The following are all generalisations obviously)

To start with, men are more combative and competitive.

Men are far more single-minded and unable to do more than one thing at a time.

They are physically stronger.

Women have the ability to deal with pain much better.

Men can be aroused just by the look of someone, whereas women need more than that.

I think in terms of what men and women need we are basically the same - we all want love, to be wanted and needed and to be happy.

I have always been a feminist; I feel very strongly about having equality of opportunity and that there should be no discrimination, but the two sexes are different and those differences should be celebrated.