Teacher upset with my child questioning about trans child

But only because the teacher has told the other children.

You people have seriously lost the plot.

Btw, it was two children, four years apart if you had actually read my post. In a Roman Catholic Primary.

Tolerance.

How did you know this 5-year-old child was gay?

Thats a simplism. It's more complicated than that

Really? In what way?

Perhaps she'll grow up to be a good and tenacious investigative journalist. Goodness knows we need those, and plenty of them.

It’s an oversimplification because not every human being can be neatly and unambiguously classified as exclusively male or female across all biological characteristics.
Sex development involves multiple biological dimensions, including chromosomes, gonads, reproductive anatomy and hormonal pathways. These ordinarily align, but they don’t always.
There are numerous well-documented examples of this complexity:

• Ovotesticular DSD: individuals can have both ovarian and testicular tissue, sometimes even an ovary on one side and a testis on the other.
• Complete androgen insensitivity syndrome (CAIS): individuals have XY chromosomes and testes but develop typically female external genitalia.
• Swyer syndrome: individuals have XY chromosomes but develop female reproductive structures, including a uterus and fallopian tubes, without functional testes or ovaries.
• 46,XX testicular DSD: individuals have XX chromosomes but develop testes and male external genitalia, sometimes without possessing a Y chromosome at all.
• Partial androgen insensitivity syndrome: individuals have XY chromosomes but develop genital characteristics that may be neither typically male nor typically female.
• 46,XX/46,XY mosaicism or chimerism: individuals can have both XX and XY cell populations, sometimes accompanied by mixed ovarian and testicular development.

These conditions are complex, but even in the most complex examples, there is always one developmental pathway that is dominant, thus the person’s sex is not in question.

There are no human hermaphrodites.

No. It is you who have presented us with what appears to be a very unlikely scenario, namely a small child whose sexual behaviour is already so precocious that he can be defined as gay.

Gay means male and sexually attracted to other males. It is the male counterpart to lesbian (female and sexually attracted to other females).

Gay does not just mean "male but rather feminine in his manner and choice of clothes and pastimes". That's just gender- nonconforming. Such a child may turn out to be gay, or he may not.

Your kids never had a bath together or wait in the changing room at swimming, or be told "sit still while I change your little sister's nappy"?
It's pretty common for younger children to see siblings' privates.
That doesn't mean they know all about them. Many a mumsnetter has reported their little boy barging in while they were on the loo or in the bath and asking what happened to their willy, or thinking that their own would drop off when they grew up

But that’s precisely the oversimplification I’m challenging. On what scientific basis are you asserting that there is always one dominant developmental pathway that unambiguously determines an individual’s sex?

In ovotesticular DSD, for example, both ovarian and testicular developmental pathways can be activated, resulting in an individual possessing both types of gonadal tissue. There can be an ovary on one side and a testis on the other, or both types of tissue within the same gonad. External genitalia and other reproductive structures may also exhibit varying degrees of male and female differentiation.

The clinical literature explicitly recognises that sex assignment in these cases can be exceptionally difficult. If one pathway always straightforwardly determined sex, why would that be the case?

You’re asserting that every individual must have one objectively identifiable, biologically dominant sex-development pathway, regardless of how discordant their sex characteristics are. But you haven’t explained how that determination is made, or demonstrated that such a pathway invariably exists. Simply insisting that everyone must ultimately be either male or female doesn’t resolve the biological ambiguity. It assumes away the very complexity under discussion.

Firstly Ovotesticular DSDs are extremely rare, secondly having tissue is not remotely the same as having a functioning reproductive organ. Even in these conditions, the dominant pathway is determinable with medical investigation.

https://www.theparadoxinstitute.org/videos/is-intersex-a-third-sex

You can watch the video or read the transcript. Intersex people are male or female depending on what development pathway they have taken and whether they have a functional SRY gene and androgen receptors.

Yes, but a child in the context of others at school is not basing their judgement about another child's sex on their genitals...because they are obviously not likely ever to see them. We/they can tell someone's sex without seeing their genitals.

All this 'but it's so complicated' handwringing has been done to death on many, many other threads.

Just because it might be initially difficult to determine a person's sex in a vanishingly small number of cases, doesn't mean its not really easy 99.99% of the time.

And isn't a reason to throw out the concept of single sex spaces/ sports.

And isn't a reason to gaslight children.

How have humans managed to reproduce for all these generations? Praise be, must be a miracle 🙄

This. Yes, some people are born with DSDs, and of that tiny number, a very small percentage of them will have a condition such that, if nominally male, it might be more appropriate for that child to be brought up as female, and vice versa. None of which is any reason to throw the baby out with the bath-water for everyone else, as you say.

It happens almost daily to my DC. Casually, assuming gender. No one is offended when we correct them, which we sometimes do. If it's left to me, I don't bother. Makes no difference.

Happened Friday in the doctors waiting room and again at the playground. Meh.

How do you 'behave as a girl'?

Did you read this?

https://medium.com/@katieja/young-children-reality-sex-and-gender-3421f4f165f1

Very interesting about the well-known and well-studied developmental psychology of children.

By about 7 or 8 they have learned that sex is not about clothes and hair but is more fundamental than that.

Younger children believe that wearing a skirt is what makes you a girl etc. and part of their developmental growth during those times is to work this all out.

That’s another reason that it’s developmentally so wrong to try and make children of this age believe that someone can have a boy’s body but really be a girl.

They are not adults, they have nowhere near the cognitive functionality of adults.

Yes, there were trans identifying children in 1991.the first clinic was founded in 1989 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_Identity_Development_Service

I worked with one mid 1990s. I worked alongside a transgender adult in the 1980's. This really isn't a new phenomenan, just the prevalence and publicity has increased.

Funny enough I’d have thought bullshit too but there’s a boy who wears a pinafore to my daughters school (since reception) they’ve only just realised he is a boy as he has a gender neutral name and long hair. His features have changed as they’ve gotten older and it’s been quite controversial as most people had no idea

Adults, yes. But children? I remain extremely sceptical. Especially the idea that a child would have been affirmed in what was then recognised as a mental disorder or a paraphilia. Nope, not buying it.

So you think they started a clinic specifically for trans children in 1989 even though there weren't any??

The page you have linked backs me up: GIDS only tried gender - affirming therapy after years of extensive psychotherapy. So, no, I do not believe that primary schools were pretending small children were the opposite sex in the 1990s.