Teacher upset with my child questioning about trans child

I see. It was the OP that confused me.

Very good question. And I look at the people handwaving it away and smugly virtue signalling about how morally superior they are, and I shake my head and think “what the actual fuck are you doing?”

@Lacksie you seem obsessed with genitals! You can usually tell by face shape and how they move as to whether they are male or female. And OPs child is obviously correct about the child being a boy if she is being told off for misgendering him. And the teacher is also using books to indoctrinate her into thinking you can be born in the wrong body

You’re obsessed with children’s genitals!

Read the OP. The teacher is a transactivist. The problem is the teacher, not another child.

you and I don't agree on anything related to this subject.

I was using the words OP used in her thread and questioning what was really happening in this circumstance as it doesn't make sense. At that age, whether a child appears male or female rest entirely on social convention, unless you know what genitals they have. So if this child is presenting as a girl (girl name etc), there's no reason for OP's child to be confused or question that.

Are you for real ?

I was replying to your post which said this:

If your child is in reception, why would she even know or care if another 4 year old is trans?

If you're agreeing with me that the idea of a child 'being trans' makes no sense, why did you say this, which implies that you believe a 4 year old child can 'be trans'?

The OP isn’t saying the child is trans, but that the school are treating the child as trans and insisting on other children using preferred pronouns, rather than sex based ones. If OP’s child recognises that the child is a boy and is being told not to trust her own eyes and to refer to him as a girl, that’s a safeguarding failure on the part of the school.

She knows the child is male but is being told they are a girl and is getting in trouble for questioning it. Can you not read or something?

What are her eyes / ears telling her exactly and how is she being asked to deny that?

No it was because the OP said the child was trans - not me. In this case I don't know what she means by it either. The whole thing makes no sense.

Is that a way of saying you don't know the answer? Thanks for being honest.

The child is being asked to deny what her eyes/ears are telling her about another child. This is gaslighting and the child is confused as to why she is being told a boy is a girl

Its not hard to understand!

And in this case agreeing that this boy is a girl affects the rest of the class as they are being asked to participate in a lie. Children are naturally curious and you’re advocating for snuffing out that curiosity because the school can’t adhere to guidelines. It’s perfectly simple. Primary schools should not be allowing children to use pronouns that are not sex based.

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I don’t understand how intelligent people, who grew up before all this nonsense started, have swallowed this stuff, hook, line and sinker.

I agree. This is utterly baffling. In the space of a couple of years we seemed to go from Louis Theroux showing us 'trans kids' in America (in a series which also brought us child beauty contests and some seriously weird religious nutjobs, all in the spirit of 'look at what some crazy people do') to a situation where anyone who doesn't believe that children could 'be trans' are told they're closed minded bigots.

How did this happen, and why did so many otherwise intelligent people fall for it?

How can a 4 year old be trans? Please explain what you think makes a 4 year old a transsexual.

I don't understand this. If your child is in reception, why would she even know or care if another 4 year old is trans? There's something missing here as it doesn't make any sense at all.

Have flicked through the thread, horrified as usual by all the people telling OP that her daughter is being rude, is obsessed with genitals and other abuse. Also Elliot who’s a girl, pretending to be a boy. I hope Elliot’s teachers are wise enough to make sure she doesn’t get changed with the boys.

Last weekend, even the BBC was reporting the shocking rise of sexual abuse occurring in schools, from a frighteningly young age. Knowing what sex a child is and ensuring they are protected when necessary is an essential part of prevention. Children should not ever be treated as if they are something they aren’t and the other children in the class should never be coerced into saying things they know are not true.

I don’t understand how intelligent people, who grew up before all this nonsense started, have swallowed this stuff, hook, line and sinker. I know intelligent people have swallowed it as my sister earnestly told me about her friend’s son who wore princess dresses and stood in the wrong line at school, so was obviously genuinely a girl (rather than genuinely wishing he was one, or genuinely confused).

Living through a period of mass psychosis has to be the one of the most exhausting and sickening things I’ve been through. I just want it to stop.

This child knows she’s being asked to collude in something that is not true and she’s confused. This is exactly why it’s such a betrayal to expose young children to this ideology right when they are learning the foundations of what is real and what isn’t. There’s a good discussion about the developmental effect of this towards the end of this podcast episode. If my child had been read those books I would be absolutely furious. The teacher should have spoken to you first and allowed you to handle it in your own way. I would speak to the head purely because this young teacher needs to learn that there are topics that are for families to teach, not schools.

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This! Madness

Thank you. Unfortunately, someone clearly complained so it was put on the naughty step. For telling the truth that most of us know is the truth. Nothing changes with this nonsense I'm afraid.

Getting used to?

This makes no sense to me. So it’s a boy pretending to be a girl? So what’s to get used to.

And they’re 4?! I thought schools weren’t supposed to be encouraging this.

I'd speak to the head. Probably a new and young teacher, she should not be doing that. Even when we deliver PSHE type lessons, the goal is to facilitate discussion rather than push only one narrative.

I'd be pissed as well reading my child books like that without informing me. She's 5 - of course she has questions! Sounds like teacher is trying to shut the questions down.